Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

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before 2000, all bbc shows were distributed by fox video. And at least the cassettes of wallace and gromit had the correct sound as later releases do the pal to ntsc slowdown.
Oh I bet. I miss that indication you knew this was foreign when those ghostly conversions were made. That all went away when we went full digital.

Now I'm reminded of Doctor Who 16mm telerecordings. I'm sure NTSC markets had to deal with that slowdown before video mastering took over.

CBC in Canada also ran Coronation Street that way over 40 years ago.
 
Paramount just counter-bid an eye-watering $108 billion for WB.

Honestly I don't give a shit who gets WB because

1. I plunder all me content from the high seas anyway

and 2. No matter who wins, the consoomer loses.

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That's what pisses me off about these "public domain " horror movies based on toons once they enter the public domain. Why not other genres particularly ones that would fit these characters better? Think a Betty Boop movie that's like a neo noir throwback to films like Maltese falcon or white heat. I know Betty Boop cartoons had a lot of dark and surreal imagery (just look at Minnie the moocher or the Betty boop snow white) but so did a lot of golden age and rubberhose era animation.
A) Because 'Childhood icon but now horrific and gory' is an easy market that piggy-backs off the phase many teenagers have had of imagining if the shows they grew up with were dark and edgy. Look at Creepypasta or all the modern 'analogue horror' crap.
B) Horror movies are generally a genre that lends itself well to lower budgets, can cover up bad effects with the excuse of 'seeing less is scary' and gets away with a lot of stupid crap so long as we get a nice gory kill every now and then. Look at how indie games in general is dominantly horror or RPGs.
 
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Paramount:
>helped ruin halo
>helped ruin south park


Netflix:
>ruined jojo
>gave us cuties


WB:
>gave us rick and morty

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Paramount:
>helped ruin halo
>helped ruin south park


Netflix:
>ruined jojo
>gave us cuties


WB:
>gave us rick and morty

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At least Rick and morty started as a brightspot in the world of adult cartoons when if was new. The problem was it didn't know when enough was enough.


Frankly I know it's a "lesser of two evils" kinda deal but I'd legit take paramount over Netflix.
 
At least Rick and morty started as a brightspot in the world of adult cartoons when if was new.
Pure cope. The show was always dogshit and it merely overstayed its welcome. Go back and rewatch those early episodes and you'll realize that every issue that the later seasons have were all present and accounted for in the early seasons as well, they simply had not worn on your nerves as badly yet.
 
The problem was it didn't know when enough was enough.
No one knows when enough is enough. How many reboots have been greenlit because companies can't leave well enough alone? This isn't even strictly an animation issue, this is an everything "media and entertainment" related issue.
 
Pure cope. The show was always dogshit and it merely overstayed its welcome. Go back and rewatch those early episodes and you'll realize that every issue that the later seasons have were all present and accounted for in the early seasons as well, they simply had not worn on your nerves as badly yet.
Pardon if that sounded like cope I've only seen bits and pieces of Rick and morty in the early days and schezuan gate was were I stopped giving it anything besides a passing glance.

No one knows when enough is enough. How many reboots have been greenlit because companies can't leave well enough alone? This isn't even strictly an animation issue, this is an everything "media and entertainment" related issue.
In old enough to remember reboots and remakes were a problem YEARS before wokeshit got its claws into everything.
 
Having "adultescents" and "menchildren/womenchildren" that say that you can still like crap "even after you grow up" was a mistake.
A lot of these cartoon fandoms are a horrifying combination of 50/50 manchildren and actual kids, with the kids frequently stumbling upon bad shit bc of the adults and/or getting groomed into the cult. This has now been going on long enough that the kids of ~10 years ago are now grown and provide proof that these large groups of adult fans for kids cartoons are actually as harmful as theyve always been accused of.

For example, my little pony. You had the bronies. But you also had a very large amount of ~11 year old girls who were young enough to be the actual target demographic, but just old enough to often have unsupervised internet access, leading them to accidentally run into a bunch of weird pony gore, porn and creeps when they just wanted to find more content on a show they liked. On tiktok, i saw some ppl say they saw 'fluffies' content at like age 7.

With steven universe, voltron, etc you also had a lot of tween fans getting their first introduction into being part of a fandom. They naturally follow the fandom big names/leaders, who tended to be older. The fandom leaders then encouraged/thought those kids to attack others for not drawing characters fat/gay/dark enough, to harasss show staff about their gay ship, etc. And also introduce them to shit like omegaverse. Pretty scary.

Same with more recent examples like owl house. If someone is a fan of the show, its a coin toss on wether theyre a 30 yo weirdo, or a 10 yo whos going trough a spacewolfgender phase (which has a 50% chance of having only developed in the first place due to mass exposure in the owl house fandom).
 
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For example, my little pony. You had the bronies. But you also had a very large amount of ~11 year old girls who were young enough to be the actual target demographic, but just old enough to often have unsupervised internet access, leading them to accidentally run into a bunch of weird pony gore, porn and creeps when they just wanted to find more content on a show they liked. On tiktok, i saw some ppl say they saw 'fluffies' content at like age 7.
I still find it amusing the depths of depravity I witnessed as a young Brony.
OK. Shit's crazy now. Will it ever truly match the Rainbow Dash Cum Jar though?*
I want to say that it was still "more harmless than Discord and Roblox" but let's be honest, it probably wasn't.

*Just remembered the "Oneshot Cremated Testes" incident. Never fucking mind.
E: Or that guy pulling a hamburger out of his diaper and taking a bite.
 
Pure cope. The show was always dogshit and it merely overstayed its welcome. Go back and rewatch those early episodes and you'll realize that every issue that the later seasons have were all present and accounted for in the early seasons as well, they simply had not worn on your nerves as badly yet.
If you disagree with this take just tell yourself that unlike car salesman "you're not evil, worse, your smart"
 
This has now been going on long enough that the kids of ~10 years ago are now grown and provide proof that these large groups of adult fans for kids cartoons are actually as harmful as theyve always been accused of.
As someone who was into MLP as a little girl, I honestly dont think it’s the mere fact of adults liking kids stuff. It’s the mixing of adults in kids spaces. It’s not like being a fan of The Owl House will immediately transform you into a pedo, it’s that if you’re an adult fan of The Owl House, you have significant proximity and even some power over other children who like it when you engage in the fandom without properly sequestering yourself.

A lot of these kids exposed to this content grew up to still like said fandom, yet they’re not a problem, because they’ve split off into these “adult (blank) fan” discord servers and forums and have these TikTok PSAs on “How to tag your Pokémon fanart so minors don’t follow!”

The issue is we saw little girls liking something, and adult men liking the same thing, and thought they could mix together because of a shared interest. Ignoring the fact that they don’t share age, gender, motivations, etc.


Also maybe it’s just me but the idea of some 30 year old man “struggling with bronyism” and hiding it and treating it like an addiction on par with flashing people at the park is a lot scarier to me than some 30 yr old man who likes the show and invites his friends at the bronycon to leave for the bar when he sees parents start to bring in their kids
 
When I was little I never liked most of disney's cartoons. I was more of a tom and jerry/looney tunes person myself. So I've always been more geared with warner bros stuff. I think the only show I watched from Disney when I was young was Phineas and Ferb when it was new. Other than those I yearned for classic cartoons
 
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