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Edgeymcedgename said:
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Can you blame people for trying to cling desperately to what once brought joy to their little minds? And I mean little as in when they were kids.

Ironically I recall the opposite problem the case with the original unfortunate events movie. Everything EXCEPT Carrey was almost passable. The problem was even with Carrey acting through all the makeup as he had done as the grinch and even the mask. You didn't see the menacing, cold, callous count Olaf. You saw Jim Carrey in a parody of count orlock from nosferatu.


Anyways Angel studio's David may be facing stiff competition from zootopia 2 and avatar fire and ash but it's managed to beat spongebob by a margin. Just goes to show word of mouth on how bad the tentacle crotch spongebob, and ice spices music are a bad combination.



Shame in 6 months they still have to release animal farm. Surprised it hasn't been leaked since it has been shown at film festivals prior to the planned May release.
 
strumpets exeunt said:
Great, now I have the mental image of the Cat in the Hat launching pressurized cannisters at the Grinch as he Terminators his way across the set.
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There. The finest of AI slop. Fuck you all.
 
A Grey Cat said:
Anyways Angel studio's David may be facing stiff competition from zootopia 2 and avatar fire and ash but it's managed to beat spongebob by a margin. Just goes to show word of mouth on how bad the tentacle crotch spongebob, and ice spices music are a bad combination.
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SpongeBob's not actually pulling in the numbers? Holy shit, how cold is it down in Hell right now?
 
Since Seuss adaptions were being discussed, I do not understand how we ended up with Illumination getting the rights to these things.

From my understanding it goes like this:

- Cat in the Hat horrified Seuss' widow so badly she said no more movies.

- Blue Sky Studios, with no promise of actually getting a deal, went through the effort to make what was at that point unusually (maybe ground breakingly) cartoonish and squash and stretchy test animations in the hopes of convincing her to let them adapt Horton.

- Blue Sky convinced her, got the rights, and made what's largely considered the best Seuss adaption even if it's still got its flaws.

- Blue Sky got no more rights and instead Illumination gets to adapt a bunch of more popular books, making films that most agree are worse than Horton.

- Somewhere between The Lorax and The Grinch Blue Sky proved that with a tighter leash they could've really hit the nail on the head by making The Peanuts Movie (Schulz' widow specifically noting their handling of Horton being one of the things that convinced them it would turn out okay).


Blue Sky is dead now but it wasn't when The Lorax and The Grinch came out. What gives?
 
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Scientifically Inaccurate said:
Blue Sky is dead now but it wasn't when The Lorax and The Grinch came out. What gives?
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The Suess estate has largely stopped giving a fuck and cashed in, made pretty evident by how commercialized the Grinch is currently. In saying this, I guess Audrey Geisel, who ran it, mostly just took issue with the films being live action. Once Illumination was in the picture and Universal could do animation, she was on board. My guess is that there were greater deals given how tied in Universal is to the Suess brand beyond movies - theme parks being the obvious expansion.
 
Gonna be honest, I could never fully enjoy the live action Grinch because most of the horrendous rhinoplasty nightmare Whos were too off putting (I remember Cindy and Martha looking fine by comparison though). Really freaked me out when I was a kid and it hasn’t gotten much better. Also not a huge fan of the adult jokes, but eh. Have not seen the Illumination movie but I don’t doubt it being worse.
 
From what I heard, one of the heads for Horton actually ended up working at Illumination, and eventually had a hand in making the Seuss adaptations from there. Forgot his name, I just remember watching a review video about Blue Sky movies that talked about that.
 
Colon capital V said:
From what I heard, one of the heads for Horton actually ended up working at Illumination, and eventually had a hand in making the Seuss adaptations from there. Forgot his name, I just remember watching a review video about Blue Sky movies that talked about that.
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Chris melandari?

Basic Blond Boy said:
The Suess estate has largely stopped giving a fuck and cashed in, made pretty evident by how commercialized the Grinch is currently. In saying this, I guess Audrey Geisel, who ran it, mostly just took issue with the films being live action. Once Illumination was in the picture and Universal could do animation, she was on board. My guess is that there were greater deals given how tied in Universal is to the Suess brand beyond movies - theme parks being the obvious expansion.
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The grinch has become the very thing he once hated given how Walmart has bastardized his imaged beyond all belive twice now.


Im convinced the suess estate was just waiting for Audrey geisel to die so they could start whoring out the Dr suess it's. The only reason they haven't lifted Audrey's ban on live-action adaptations is cause live action adaptations are pretty much dead.
 
Archeops said:
and The Grinch Grinches the Cat in the Hat
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Reminder their entire spat in that started from the cat int he hat making an extremely racist remark after parking his car int he middle of a single lane road to have a fucking picnic on the side of it like a fucking asshole.
I can only find this shit quality tv recording version of the clip now instead of the meme edits
 
The Lawgiver said:
Reminder their entire spat in that started from the cat int he hat making an extremely racist remark after parking his car int he middle of a single lane road to have a fucking picnic on the side of it like a fucking asshole.
I can only find this shit quality tv recording version of the clip now instead of the meme edits
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"yo man how do we write seuss dialogue"
"idk write a super polite ned flanders mad scientist type deal"
"but I can't really get it to rhyme"
"that's not important"
 
Chromeo said:
"yo man how do we write seuss dialogue"
"idk write a super polite ned flanders mad scientist type deal"
"but I can't really get it to rhyme"
"that's not important"
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"also make him like incredibly casual with his racism and then spend the rest of the episode wondering why the grinch is pissed and it's never brought up as the reason he just makes the grinch cry and stop bothering you because you brought up his mom is fucking dead"

A Grey Cat said:
The problem was even with Carrey acting through all the makeup as he had done as the grinch and even the mask. You didn't see the menacing, cold, callous count Olaf. You saw Jim Carrey in a parody of count orlock from nosferatu.
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I thought both were good. Grunch wan't as good as the OG but still was clearly high effort. Unfortunate events he was kind of perfect for count olaf's weird eccentric nature but he did a bit too much wacky carrey moments and there were changes to the plot to make it a self contained thing of the first 3 books because the actual ending hadn't even come out yet and they didn't want to try and make sequels I guess.

Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Gonna be honest, I could never fully enjoy the live action Grinch because most of the horrendous rhinoplasty nightmare Whos were too off putting (I remember Cindy and Martha looking fine by comparison though). Really freaked me out when I was a kid and it hasn’t gotten much better. Also not a huge fan of the adult jokes, but eh. Have not seen the Illumination movie but I don’t doubt it being worse.
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That was their attempt at adding more of the seuss whimsy to it. Dr. seuss just draws people with little noses and so for whatever fucking reason the whimsical Seuss accurate architecture was not enough, they had to give everyone weird tiny noses.
 
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It just astounds me that Illumination's The Lorax is half-good, and that's only when it was adapting the story itself. Everything else before and after was just boring. I'm still convinced Illumination is just a fluke studio, but legit, if they had better writers involved, maybe the studio could've become a fine studio.

But nah, being marketable was their priority. And the audience somehow fell for it.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
This didn't make it in? We were robbed.
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Yeah this was infamously the original song that was going to be used for the segment that became "how bad can i be".


Scientifically Inaccurate said:
Peanuts
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This reminded me, I never got around to seeing that peanuts movie they came out with a little while ago about charlie brown and franklin doing some shit together that somehow didn't seem like it was gonna be more "white man bad" shit current year seems to just contantly push and just friends doing shit together. Anyone seen that one? Worth checking out? Animation on that seemed decent enough but I'm not getting fucking appletv to see it.

This one for context

It's really neat how it just more or less looks like a higher budget version of the older animations. Granted that's likely a budget saver but it's also a style thing. They could have just made it some horrible beanmouth nioghtmare if they really wanted to save money.
 
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The Lawgiver said:
Yeah this was infamously the original song that was going to be used for the segment that became "how bad can i be".
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"How Bad Can I Be" still slaps, but man.

Although The Once-ler fandom only came to be because of that, so I dunno what "Biggering" would've brought out...
 
The Lawgiver said:
Yeah this was infamously the original song that was going to be used for the segment that became "how bad can i be".
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Because you can't have a sympathetic antagonist who believes his corporate ways have gone too out of touch with reality when you have a ton of corporate sponsors on board with you so time to make it as cartoonishly villainous as possible! Bonus points if he's likeable by the teenage girls on tumblr or whatever.
 
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