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Bambi has the main character watch his mom get shot. And that was rated G.
The G and PG rating have continuously shrunk year over year as the PG-13 rating has grown by leaps and bounds. And besides that the movie doesn't show it happen and besides that one thing there's nothing else worth even a PG rating in it. Plus, it's a film from the forties that revolves around animals, animals dying was just the appropriate way to teach children about death and natural realities back in those days.
The Fox and the Hound, which I will add to the recommendation list, also had the mom of the titular fox get shot.
And it's also a movie from the Before Times, when it was okay to use animals to teach children about death and natural realities. Back in the Before Times, prior to the 1990s.
 
Plus, it's a film from the forties that revolves around animals, animals dying was just the appropriate way to teach children about death and natural realities back in those days.
Sort of like Old Yeller. Also rated G. Still traumatic as fuck, more upsetting than a human getting killed.

We're raising kids to be pussies these days. Even G movies used to hit hard.
 
Sort of like Old Yeller. Also rated G. Still traumatic as fuck, more upsetting than a human getting killed.

We're raising kids to be pussies these days. Even G movies used to hit hard.
You'll hear no disagreement from me on that, and I think that a lot of it just plain comes down to how insulated our children are from the realities of the world these days not just in media but life in general.

Like, yeah, it sucks that the dog died but it's important that a child gets to feel that sadness and have a safe, controlled, environment to experience that where they can have a parent guide them through those feelings so that way they aren't growing up to be a 30-something manchild who openly weeps at a Disney Star Wars trailer while on his honeymoon.
 
Also Jake is too intense, holy hell.
Its definitely a movie for 9-12 year olds. The casual use of firearms, adult humor and some gritty mature moments might scare little kids.

Jake is a rattlesnake and that's already scary but he also tries to squeeze the insides out of one of the main characters lmao, he's metal af.
A qualifier for the Don Bluth remark - ONLY his 80s films (Secret of NIMH, An American Tail, and All Dogs Go to Heaven) and Anastasia. The rest ranges from mid to trash.
I love Don but God damn I would have hated some of his movies as a kid.
So many, even his good ones have the most dismal gloomy color pallets I've ever seen in an animated movie, even bright and cheerful moments are washed out by his choice of watercolors and maybe how poorly some of his movies were transferred.

Especially Rockadoodle, the ENTIRE MOVIE takes place in a rain storm that's completely flooded the setting and washed any vegetation away. What kid wants to watch a happy talking animal movie where the only colors are murky brown and dismal bluish grey?

Bluth loved big scary monsters and dramatic lighting, but he kept forcing himself to copy Disney instead of blazing his own trail, and that was his downfall.
 
Its definitely a movie for 9-12 year olds. The casual use of firearms, adult humor and some gritty mature moments might scare little kids.

Jake is a rattlesnake and that's already scary but he also tries to squeeze the insides out of one of the main characters lmao, he's metal af.
There's also a lot of "hell" and "damn" and not in the biblical way in that film. Definitely a movie for kids in the double digits, but a legitimately amazing western, easily top five for westerns that have come out in the past twenty years.
I love Don but God damn I would have hated some of his movies as a kid.
Don Bluth movies are movies for nerdy kids, the kind of kids who can sit still and pay attention, honestly I'd say that they're movies more for kids in that 12 and up age range just due to the fact that they tend to be slower and more epic in scope and feel than most of Disney's offerings.
 
I only watched one don bluth film when I was kid religiously (not in the actual sense) and it was all dogs go to heaven, his last successfuly great film before rock-a-doodle. That movie was not only one of my first don bluth films, it might have been one of the first films I saw that had burt reynolds (either that or smokey and the bandit, which as you can see probably was the more affective movie) I had the 2nd american tail movie and say what you want about it, when i was a kid I thought it was alright, I mean who doesn't like movies with john cleese.
 
my nigger in christ...... IF IT'S FREE, ITS GOING TO HAVE ADS!!!
Figure after that entire debacle with that Honey extension, these retards would've figured out that nothing is ever really free and somebody's paying the toll somewhere in some fashion.
This is genuinely beyond parody, god damn.
Here we go again, another creative's disguised fetish 🙄
OddOne firing everyone sounds juicy since the guy himself comes off as a nice guy.
I mean "faux nice guys" are a thing, but it also could be a "decline in viewership" / money problem as well seeing how the Storytime category as a whole has been falling out of favor
 
I mean "faux nice guys" are a thing, but it also could be a "decline in viewership" / money problem as well seeing how the Storytime category as a whole has been falling out of favor
My guess on this situation is that he probably lost money doing his show Oddballs for Netflix
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Keep in mind this show came out 3-4 years ago and not even estranged media reviewer chazington could save it and he reviewed both seasons of this slop
He also mentioned that the odd1sout also had plushies at one point
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But to get back on topic my main guess is that due to the mediocrity of oddballs, the few people buying his merchandise (in the modern age), and the fact that most of these "vlog" animator channels have been coasting on their waning relevancy on youtube for the past decade, these guys are going to end up as dinosaurs. The modern audience is going back to the newgrounds animators that they (and susan wabbojack) tried to kill off. Nobody cares what your life really is if your a rich animator telling your life in la while you don't actually animate your videos. That's why jaiden animations is doing the gator vtuber side hustle, and everyone else is still coasting. Sooner or later these guys will close their channels and go back to being normal people in the world.
 
Its definitely a movie for 9-12 year olds. The casual use of firearms, adult humor and some gritty mature moments might scare little kids.

Jake is a rattlesnake and that's already scary but he also tries to squeeze the insides out of one of the main characters lmao, he's metal af.

I love Don but God damn I would have hated some of his movies as a kid.
So many, even his good ones have the most dismal gloomy color pallets I've ever seen in an animated movie, even bright and cheerful moments are washed out by his choice of watercolors and maybe how poorly some of his movies were transferred.

Especially Rockadoodle, the ENTIRE MOVIE takes place in a rain storm that's completely flooded the setting and washed any vegetation away. What kid wants to watch a happy talking animal movie where the only colors are murky brown and dismal bluish grey?

Bluth loved big scary monsters and dramatic lighting, but he kept forcing himself to copy Disney instead of blazing his own trail, and that was his downfall.
Secret of NIMH was fairly colorful, and it was probably his best film due to it being based on a book. I'd argue that it was even better than the book because it had a better climax and more filled out characters. I'll never understand how the man who made a masterpiece like Secret of NIMH went on to produce ersatz-Disney kiddie trash like Thumbelina. Maybe he thought it would make more money. I sort of consider Don Bluth to be the anti-Richard Williams. Instead of striving to create a singular vision to showcase his talents and doing commercial work to pay the bills like Williams did, Bluth just plain sold out. I would have loved to have seen Bluth tackle something like A Wrinkle in Time or James and the Giant Peach.
 
Cartoon Saloon (with French studio Folivari) came out with a trailer. It's for a movie set in 1847, based on the Choctaw Nation's gift during the Irish Potato Famine.
 
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I would have loved to have seen Bluth tackle something like A Wrinkle in Time
He might've been the only one to get it, for sure.

I gotta go through his autobiography again, it's just heartbreaking to see his optimism fizzle out over time. He's at least thankfully doing well for himself after humbling himself, just am not looking forward to his passing.
 
Either the characters are all based on his likeness, or he has gone out of his way to become his characters.

Blessed man either way.
I mean he's been playing the same nerd character since grease in 1977 so i think its a mix of both.
Your right on him being blessed though
 
thx for recs. Sleep deprivation got me forgetting classics.

What's the beef with Illumination? Is it Minions? I don't know the whole picture.
 
What's the beef with Illumination? Is it Minions? I don't know the whole picture.
They're french, most of their movies are considered the bottom of the barrel, the type of stuff you'd see at a dollar store, or the 5 dollar movie bin at walmart, i.e crackhouse kids movies (see movies like sing 1 & 2, hop, any of their dr seuss adaptions for examples) People don't like the minions because they can be annoying and it halts the plots of the despicable me movies. They're more reasons but those are the two I know of.
 
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