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Private Pyle said:
This was pretty much the backstory of Long Gone Gulch. The creators worked in the industry and seemed frustrated they couldn’t do what they want. So they crowdfunded a pilot and after years of hard work, got their pilot on the air. LGG was pretty well received and while it’s fate is still up in the air, prospects are looking good in light of Hazbin’s A24 deal.

Why Owen and other up and coming animators don’t follow suit is unknown, besides the obvious bitching on twitter is easier.

That’s a good sign all things considered. Three seasons is good for a story driven show like this and it’s what the creator wanted anyways. I just hope they stick the landing for the finale and that they don’t pull any Korra shenanigans.
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If that's what the writer attended that's good. I argue that Over the Garden Wall is one of the greatest animated series i have every seen for this reason.
 
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Commander X said:
From what I've seen of the Invincible adaption I'm a bit miffed that they've gone the old route where, as happens in what feels like at least 60 percent of the time in media, in fictional romances the male character has to do absolutely everything for the girl, while she just waits around for him to be worthy of her presence and this in Invincible may be one of the most glaring examples.

Besides, the notion that Mark was obligated to tell his high-school girlfriend that he only really known for awhile his most important secret that could endanger him and her is extremely wrong. The whole nonsense over the secret identity secret-keeping was done so badly, so obviously done to create drama but in a pointless and stupid way.

"Mark, we need to help these people or they'll be killed!" :Mark helps as Invincible: "MARK WHY DID YOU RUN?!"

Then for the kicker, episodes later - "Yeah I knew, but why did you lie and keep secrets?"

In the original comic, the Amber character doesn't even show up until the 11th issue and it's only for a single panel. They over-exaggerated the relationship on the show for no real explainable reason which is why the story suffers.
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The whole secret identities thing just seems really fucking dumb anyways, since nobody seems to make even the bare minimum attempt to keep their identities hidden. Omni-man literally flies around his neighborhood in his costume and looks exactly the same in civilian clothes and is apparently also a moderately high-profile writer. Mark craters is backyard in the middle of the night in one episode. Their neighbors have got to be oblivious as all fuck if they’re not aware that the famous writer they live next to is Omni-man. Eve (and presumably the other characters too) literally has her name as part of her hero name, which is obviously fucking stupid if you’re trying to maintain any level of secrecy around your identity. And sure she hand-waves it as “people don’t recognize me because they don’t expect to know a superhero”, but I think that’s obviously bullshit.

I feel like this is one particular trope they would’ve done well to drop. The whole “balancing hero work with IRL obligations” would’ve worked well enough on its own.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Money, time, logistics. If it were that easy to do it, everyone would be doing it.
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I at least rest a little easier knowing that the success and popularity of Hazbin Hotel and Long Gone show that it is viable in this current time and at least worth a shot.
I honestly think this might be lead to something bigger later down the line. A man can dream at least.
 
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Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
The show (at least the Garfield segments) had some bite to them. Didn't care for as much about the US Acres parts though.
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True, but I suppose they needed something to balance the middle of the show and that was the only other thing Jim Davis created.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
I noticed that the US Acres part was where they stuck the moral lessons that parents groups wanted. Then the rest of the show made fun of that stuff with the Buddy Bears.
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Not surprising if the Buddy Bears was a jab at those network and parent group decisions.

Remember kids, always agree with everyone, don't have an opinion that is not beneficial to the group!
 
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Trilby said:
Not surprising if the Buddy Bears was a jab at those network and parent group decisions.

Remember kids, always agree with everyone, don't have an opinion that is not beneficial to the group!
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Mark Evanier said as much. It was the dominant prosocial moral of the day, and he once wrote a piece about how he was told to use it when writing Dungeons and Dragons.

So much of Garfield and Friends is him making fun of things he didn't like in animation.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Mark Evanier said as much. It was the dominant prosocial moral of the day, and he once wrote a piece about how he was told to use it when writing Dungeons and Dragons.

So much of Garfield and Friends is him making fun of things he didn't like in animation.
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Not surprising Mark felt that way after several decades of this.
 
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starborn427614 said:
That's good then. Star VS's issue was that the showrunner actually got more seasons than she wanted so it ended up being written as it went along and boy did it show.
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It's weird too because I read that the showrunner was unsure if Star Vs. would get a fourth season or not so she wanted to write the season 3 finale in such a way that the story would end on a proper note if the fourth one wasn't greenlit. If it's true then she just screwed herself for no real reason.
 
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Anachronistic said:
It's weird too because I read that the showrunner was unsure if Star Vs. would get a fourth season or not so she wanted to write the season 3 finale in such a way that the story would end on a proper note if the fourth one wasn't greenlit. If it's true then she just screwed herself for no real reason.
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Well c'est la vie.
 
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