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What evidence do you have? In the actual cartoons they did love their butt jokes, but I've never heard anything about them being furries.

Think the art styles will get any better?
None. I swear I read an interview by someone who was with Disney at the time who admitted this was common practice even then, but can't find anything remotely like that at the moment. So let me take back "known fact" and replace it with "I'm still sure it's true."
 
None. I swear I read an interview by someone who was with Disney at the time who admitted this was common practice even then, but can't find anything remotely like that at the moment. So let me take back "known fact" and replace it with "I'm still sure it's true."
If its anything about a Mickey and Minnie sex cartoon, thats an anecdote from "Walt Disney: Hollywood's Dark Prince" with no real evidence to back it up. Lotta fabrications in that book.
 
None. I swear I read an interview by someone who was with Disney at the time who admitted this was common practice even then, but can't find anything remotely like that at the moment. So let me take back "known fact" and replace it with "I'm still sure it's true."
We know there was at least one furry who worked at Disney in the 90s - Shawn Keller, who showed up to the Lion King wrap party in a Kimba fursuit.

The thing about the butt jokes is true, however.
 
If its anything about a Mickey and Minnie sex cartoon, thats an anecdote from "Walt Disney: Hollywood's Dark Prince" with no real evidence to back it up. Lotta fabrications in that book.
Harlan Ellison claimed he was fired from Disney for joking about doing a Disney porn flick, but he was joking.
 
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Harlan Ellison claimed he was fired from Disney for joking about doing a Disney porn flick, but he was joking.
I should note that it's common practice for animators to draw porn to vent frustrations or have a little fun. (One of these days we may find out what was in C. Martin Croker's "Forbidden File"...)

Of course, if you're an animator and you're doing it because you want to jack off to it... then I'd be concerned. If you go so far as to draw porn of your coworkers... then I'd be calling the cops.
 
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I should note that it's common practice for animators to draw porn to vent frustrations or have a little fun. (One of these days we may find out what was in C. Martin Croker's "Forbidden File"...)

Of course, if you're an animator and you're doing it because you want to jack off to it... then I'd be concerned. If you go so far as to draw porn of your coworkers... then I'd be calling the cops.
Or if you draw yourself asking your bosses for permission to marry their OC's.
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Luke Weber, the guy who had all these bullshit stories about how depraved the animation world is. Turned out he got fired from the show he was working on because he was creepy.
He spends his days on Twitter pandering to maga-types and shilling some kickstarter thing. Turns out threatening Alex Hirsch because his girlfriend wouldn't sleep with you doesn't go over well with executives (or so the rumours go anyway).
 
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He spends his days on Twitter pandering to maga-types and shilling some kickstarter thing. Turns out threatening Alex Hirsch because his girlfriend wouldn't sleep with you doesn't go over well with executives (or so the rumours go anyway).
wait, is the girlfriend Dana?
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Whoa, this guy gives incels a bad name
 
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C. Martin Croker's "Forbidden File"...)
Thanks for reminding me that there have been very few people at CN and in the entire history of western animation who have gotten fucked over harder than Clay Martin Croker. What a serious loss talent even all these years later.
The guy had a lot of stuff in his toy/animation collection too and it makes me wonder where it went after he passed.
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Thanks for reminding me that there have been very few people at CN and in the entire history of western animation who have gotten fucked over harder than Clay Martin Croker. What a serious loss talent even all these years later.
The guy had a lot of stuff in his toy/animation collection too and it makes me wonder where it went after he passed. View attachment 2248599
I think his wife still has it all. I don't know if she ever did anything with it.
 
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Thanks for reminding me that there have been very few people at CN and in the entire history of western animation who have gotten fucked over harder than Clay Martin Croker. What a serious loss talent even all these years later.
The guy had a lot of stuff in his toy/animation collection too and it makes me wonder where it went after he passed. View attachment 2248599
Very comfy looking workstation.
 
You can never win the “woke” game, because even if your show manages to be really well written and “woke”, people will still find reasons to cancel you over the most inane shit, because they have to prove that they’re more “woke” than you.
Miraculous Ladybug is my favorite example of this. It manages to have a racially diverse cast and even gay characters while actually being well written and not feeling like it’s playing the “woke” game. If I wasn’t unfortunately educated on how Internet People think, I wouldn’t have even batted an eye over these things in it.

It’s not American-made, so I wonder if that’s a factor. The show really feels like it could have come from the early 00s when tv shows, especially those intended for kids, were “diverse” without it being a political statement (which, the creator/director formerly worked on Totally Spies, W.I.T.C.H., and Code Lyoko, so he definitely has his roots in the old era).

Anyway, it has a very strong hatedom that I’ve found to be more laughable and worrisome than anything SU crits or Voltron antis ever did. They somehow manage to stay under the mainstream radar, but they’re an absolute salt mine. Every episode, every character’s actions, every writing choice, every breath the staff takes, is met with callouts and bitching from teens/adults on the internet competing for woke points with comprehension skills lower than that of a 5 year old, who can’t distance themselves from cartoons nobody is forcing them to watch.

Creator is based af and doesn’t put up with whiny shits on twitter though
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Miraculous Ladybug is my favorite example of this. It manages to have a racially diverse cast and even gay characters while actually being well written and not feeling like it’s playing the “woke” game. If I wasn’t unfortunately educated on how Internet People think, I wouldn’t have even batted an eye over these things in it.

It’s not American-made, so I wonder if that’s a factor. The show really feels like it could have come from the early 00s when tv shows, especially those intended for kids, were “diverse” without it being a political statement (which, the creator/director formerly worked on Totally Spies, W.I.T.C.H., and Code Lyoko, so he definitely has his roots in the old era).

Anyway, it has a very strong hatedom that I’ve found to be more laughable and worrisome than anything SU crits or Voltron antis ever did. They somehow manage to stay under the mainstream radar, but they’re an absolute salt mine. Every episode, every character’s actions, every writing choice, every breath the staff takes, is met with callouts and bitching from teens/adults on the internet competing for woke points with comprehension skills lower than that of a 5 year old, who can’t distance themselves from cartoons nobody is forcing them to watch.

Creator is based af and doesn’t put up with whiny shits on twitter though
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Chat Noir made tons of anons on /co/ gay. It's weird, but I understand because he's basically in a bondage cat suit and the CGI models they use have curves.
the french don't give no fucks, which is weird because they're normally cucked
 
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