Another big question for you, if the reality of race is easily known from a scientific standpoint, why did these major taboos pop up in the first place? Why have we not been accounting for it since day 1? Is this what Woke boils down to, racism without the hate? Is that why nobody talks about equality anymore but equity? Is the cat just simply out of the bag?
I'm answering this first because its got the sad inner truth to all this. Skip to the TL;DR if you think you know more about slavery and Darwinism than me. But you should know about
Linconia at least.
While the proposal that one type of organism could descend from another type goes back to some of the first pre-Socratic Greek philosophers, such as Empedocles, Aristotelianism on the other hand had considered each natural thing as the actualization of fixed natural possibilities, known as forms. Birds were birds, man was man, and the African was merely an African. Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274), wrote a dozen commentaries on the works of Aristotle. Thomas was emphatically Aristotelian, he adopted Aristotle's analysis of physical objects, his view of place, time and motion, his proof of the prime mover, his cosmology, his account of sense perception and intellectual knowledge, and even parts of his moral philosophy. The philosophical school that arose as a legacy of the work of Thomas Aquinas was known as
Thomism, and was especially influential among the Dominicans, and later, the Jesuits. The Jesuits in New Spain distinguished themselves in several ways. They had high standards for acceptance to the order and many years of training. They attracted the patronage of elite families whose sons they educated in rigorous newly founded Jesuit colleges, including Colegio de San Pedro y San Pablo, Colegio de San Ildefonso, and the Colegio de San Francisco Javier, Tepozotlan. Those same elite families hoped that a son with a vocation to the priesthood would be accepted as a Jesuit. Jesuits were also zealous in evangelization of the indigenous, particularly on the northern frontiers.
Originally under the
Encomienda, a New Spain labour system that rewarded conquerors with the labor of conquered non-Christian peoples, the Spanish Crown granted a person a specified number of natives from a specific community to provide their labor. Indigenous leaders were charged with mobilizing the assessed tribute and labor. In turn,
encomenderos were to ensure that the
encomienda natives were given instruction in Catholicism and Spanish language, to protect them from warring tribes or pirates; to suppress rebellion against Spaniards, and maintain infrastructure. The natives provided tributes in the form of metals, maize, wheat, pork, and other agricultural products. So the first slaves were natives pressed into a form of Ultra Serfdom in order to learn how to be civilized from 1500s Spaniards. There were debates on whether Natives even possessed souls all throughout this time.
Dan Carlin has a great podcast on the early history of slavery which also is 5 2/3 hours long.
In short, it turns out pre-farming humanity makes for shit slaves because their diet and lack of skills prevents them from working at anywhere near the level of sophistication needed to turn a profit. However West Africans had mining and farming since at least the Mali Empire days of 1300. So, very quickly, what was originally for the civilization of natives (although clearly never was) became a for-profit enterprise needing absurd amounts of slaves due to the attrition rate of early colonial slavery. Harsh working conditions, sleeping outside, and completely inadequate food.
The first African slaves in what would become the present-day United States of America arrived August 9, 1526 in Winyah Bay with a Spanish expedition. Lucas Vázquez de Ayllón brought 600 colonists to start a colony. Records say the colonists included enslaved Africans, without saying how many. After a month Ayllón moved the colony to what is now Georgia. To meet agricultural labor needs, colonists also practiced Indian slavery for some time. The Carolinians transformed the Indian slave trade during the late 17th and early 18th centuries by treating such slaves as a trade commodity to be exported, mainly to the West Indies. Historian Alan Gallay estimates that between 1670 and 1715, an estimated 24,000 to 51,000 captive Native Americans were exported from South Carolina to the Caribbean. This was a much higher number than the number of Africans imported to the English mainland colonies during the same period.
Until the early 18th century, enslaved Africans were difficult to acquire in the British mainland colonies. Most were sold from Africa to the West Indies for the labor-intensive sugar trade. The large plantations and high mortality rates required continued importation of slaves. One of the first major centers of African slavery in the English North American colonies occurred with the founding of Charles Town and the Province of Carolina in 1670. The colony was founded mainly by sugar planters from Barbados, who brought relatively large numbers of African slaves from that island to develop new plantations in the Carolinas.
So, why weren't African racial difference accounted for by this point? Well, it wasn't until the theory of evolution through natural selection that the crucial break from the concept of constant forms, classes, or types in biology came, which was formulated by Charles Darwin who used the expression "
descent with modification" rather than "evolution". Darwin developed his theory of "natural selection" from 1838 onwards and was writing up his "big book" on the subject when Alfred Russel Wallace sent him a version of virtually the same theory in 1858. Their separate papers were presented together at an 1858 meeting of the Linnean Society of London. At the end of 1859, Darwin's publication of his "abstract" as On the Origin of Species explained natural selection in detail and in a way that led to an increasingly wide acceptance of Darwin's concepts of evolution at the expense of alternative theories.
The majority of people classified Africans outside of humanity because they had a ridiculous notion of who was human or not mostly based on Aristotelianism taught by Jesuits and there was money in thinking of them as remarkable monkeys. Working animals, rather than human. Darwin only wrote his treatise in 1858, and the slaves were freed in 1865. Africans were only human according to a system of biology written seven years before. Darwin in his 1871 book,
The Descent of Man, imagined that Europeans were a more advanced version of the rest of the world. This purported superiority justified to Darwin the domination of inferior races by Europeans. As white Europeans “
exterminate and replace” the world’s “
savage races,” and as great apes go extinct, Darwin said that the gap between civilized man and his closest evolutionary ancestor will widen. The gap will eventually be between civilized man “
and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as at present between the negro or Australian and the gorilla” In other words, the gorilla being the most advanced version of the Great Apes and the the negro or Australian being the least advanced version of humanity. Slavery shouldn't have happened, it destroyed the West by forcing us to accommodate socially those who largely had no ability to blend in with everyone else even after East Asians, Latinos, and South Asians came. They didn't deserve the moral horror of slavery, but only the smartest 10-15% of Africans can assimilate each generation. However just like the rich, the first generation makes it, then the second maintains it, and the third loses it and reverts.
What they won't teach you in any schools was that U.S. President Abraham Lincoln asked Republican United States Senator Samuel Pomeroy of Kansas and United States Secretary of the Interior Caleb Smith to work on a plan to resettle freed African Americans from the United States. It was going to be called Linconia. Africans were never supposed to have citizenship in America, Lincoln gave it to them when
the Linconia scheme completely failed after multiple attempts. Lincoln was assassinated by Booth when Booth found out he gave the Africans citizenship, that was Booth's motive. On April 11, Booth attended Lincoln's last speech, in which Lincoln promoted voting rights for emancipated slaves; Booth said, "
That means nigger citizenship. ... That is the last speech he will ever give." Abraham Lincoln was assassinated because he gave Blacks citizenship.
The Butler Act was a
1925 Tennessee law prohibiting public school teachers from teaching the evolution of man from what it referred to as lower orders of animals in place of the Biblical account. Darwinism, which argued a common origin for Africans and Europeans, was still being attacked in 1925. The Scopes Trial, formally The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes, and commonly referred to as the Scopes Monkey Trial, was an American legal case from July 10 to July 21, 1925, in which a high school teacher, John T. Scopes, was accused of violating Tennessee's Butler Act, which had made it unlawful to teach human evolution in any state-funded school. The trial was deliberately staged in order to attract publicity to the small town of Dayton, Tennessee, where it was held. Scopes was unsure whether he had ever actually taught evolution, but he incriminated himself deliberately so the case could have a defendant. Darwinism just wasn't a popular idea amongst the working class base in America until a
remarkable more modern of a time than you think, and hold it up next to civil rights for Blacks? Its frightening how much we accepted blacks before we understood that we were the same species. As late as June 19, 1987, the Supreme Court had to issue a landmark ruling that dramatically reshaped the debate over teaching evolution in public schools. In
Edwards v. Aguillard, the high court struck down a Louisiana law requiring that schools teach creation science whenever students learn about evolution.
TL;DR: The Taboo was because we shifted from thinking of them as Working Animals to humans when we freed them from slavery, but guilt kept us from seeing what we were signing future generations up for. We just felt such a justified guilt for why they were here, but we
never thought of it in terms of equality or any of that, we thought of it as restitution of their freedom because what we were doing to them was monstrous. We weren't accepting them, we were ending our enslavement of them. Then Linconia failed, and we gave them citizenship instead. One hundred years later, we gave them civil rights and started in on how they were always supposed to be our equal. They just weren't animals, and they aren't. Equity is just the latest scheme, and we will die to statistically equating them demographically across the economy. If morality could replace the economy, communism would have been a peaceful project but force was always going to be required. Either equity will fail, or America will. Even odds if I had to guess, better odds on America surviving if equity is given up on for another smaller scheme.
Alright, let me ask you this then, how do you think this is going to play out?
Just like with Roman and Maurya Empire, steady decline from here on out. We're just not going to be able to handle the same things civilizationally anymore. Look at the police in Uvalde, they were rendered down onto the state of late Roman Armies. Afraid to act with initiative, because the rewards under a decline are few but due to the stresses the system is constantly undergoing there are always quick and many punishments. So whereas a White would have played the hero, and many non-whites could, under a non-white system there are systems of punishments seizing people from acting. Our governments, local and federal are about to shake themselves apart trying to endlessly progress into extremes while also trying to still maintain the fences and roads of civilization. Whites and non-whites alike, smart and dutiful people, cannot operate properly under the purity spiraling which is occurring.
Liu Bang, later Emperor Gaozu of Han who founded and was the first emperor of the Han dynasty, was responsible for escorting a group of penal laborers to the construction site of the First Emperor's mausoleum at Mount Li. During the journey, some prisoners escaped; under Qin law, allowing prisoners to escape was punishable by death. Rather than face justice, Liu freed the remaining prisoners and fled. Liu was joined by some of the grateful ex-prisoners, and he became their leader. He won the race against fellow rebel leader Xiang Yu to invade the Qin heartland and forced the surrender of the Qin ruler Ziying, unified most of China under his control, and established the Han dynasty with himself as the founding emperor.
Nobody thinks the Uvalde police force could or would bring down the federal government and replace it. I am not saying they could. However what I am saying is that we are forming the idiocy which will lead to events like Liu Bang's step by step slowly. Asking a police force to serve and protect but then also weighing them down with hundreds of possible punishable offenses and very little rewards for sincere service is just the first step on the path America is determined to walk down. By the final stretches of the long march into decay and ruin, we are going to see officials forced to chose between horrifying escalations of rebellion or submission to complete injustice.
Things nobody thinks would ever become broken are going to begin to break. Society cannot handle such a drop in complexity, but our modern America cannot handle being so complex. Corporations will be turned to as saviors because the purity seeking is less there but
ESG scores ensure that the fanaticism which is pulling everything down is present there too. It is just slower acting because the competition still functions, however reward cards are going to start offering discounts during a time of rising inflation rates. The result is going to be a two stage bottom class who either are priced out by inflation or join the club and sign up for membership anywhere and everywhere. Government will begin to use
public-private partnerships to do things which it cannot due to the constitution or merely because it has degraded so. The result will be corporate governance, and it won't be democratic but use a perception of optionality for legitimacy. The optionality is going to be as much of a joke as you think, where once the system relied on you giving it legitimacy now it tells you it is legitimate and punishes dissenters. Force will always replace legitimacy during declines, watch temporary measures become permanent. Then watch later generations believe the temporary measures are America and always were America.
The administrators over the Uvalde police are simply more afraid of the outcomes of shooting the "wrong nigger" (regardless of whether he has a gun, and is using it on women and children) than they are afraid of a few dead kids. That is the new normal, and we should all get used to this stage of multiculturalism breaking down further. Things are about to get micro-managed and never about the task itself or how fast it may be done, but how the tasks are perceived to be done due to declining social trust in both minority and white communities. The social perceptions rather than the reality set the metrics around the public order. Learned helplessness sets in and the lower ranks learn to play a game of politics where Whites never did before. Florida is literally doing the same thing from the Right because it believes otherwise it will just be done anyway from the left. And the left think they can argue lower efficiency and declining standards against such measures, but the reality is that we are all accepting lower standards more and more anyway. It is the new normal.
Read
Fate of Empires by Lieutenant-General Sir John Bagot Glubb, KCB, CMG, DSO, OBE, MC, KStJ, KPM (16 April 1897 – 17 March 1986). First a future empire-nation pioneers and defends its settlements, then it conquests until order exists by their might and leadership, then the next generation switches from warrior to businessman under the new peace, then the affluence weakens the generation after that away from their military supremacy, they become an empire of progress to justify their imperial decline and yet still current predominance, and finally they death spiral into Decadence-as-progress as their nation crumbs inside and outside continually having to switch between whimsical progressive morality and harsh authoritarian necessity.
This is the the path we are walking, alongside deeper commitments to handling the population rather than serving the population.
imagine what they would be doing if some leader really was just reciting the 14 words and was actually gaining popularity?
The wise few govern themselves by reason and argument.
The masses govern themselves by experience and necessity.
If whoever wishes to follow the 14 words wants to rule, then he must teach the masses his experiences so that they can understand him, and he must make them see that he cares for them. Otherwise the masses will destroy him at the urges of Jews wishing to prevent the next holocaust. Today the masses are too fat and happy with the Marvel movies and toys to fight for their own survival. Tomorrow may be different.
The truth is that the bankers run the world, and they wish to prevent another holocaust even at the cost of the West. They would happily live poor in China plotting to rule there by money eventually then let the West survive without them. Better to maintain their position in a declining system then to decline in position to maintain the system.
Once the system declines enough though, that will bring quite a change. The masses can be convinced to look after others for the ego boost of being seen to care, but take away their stuff and watch how their empathy recoils. We are under a great self-perpetuating unconscious sleep of the collectively brainwashed which has analysed & sterilized all of western society into believing an ideological hypothesis for the peaceful integration of the entirety of the world, of such largely combative stocks of every class & culture, simply according to the maths of how to create the largest possibility of profit which is a single market. People are going to suffer trying to ignore that truth, and they'll die trying to protect their stuff all alone, because they are in the end too spiritually lost to resist meaningfully.
However once the last libertarian has perished trying to protect their cultural imperative rather than a more sensible tribal allegiance, once money has celebrated its last victory over the masses, then the footsteps of caesarism can be heard approaching. Once the bloodbath is over, and the ideals of democracy are defeated by the mania of one man, then tribalism or some other sort of new social contract will rule in the name of the people. The fascists may just be the Gracchus Brothers of our civilization's cycle.
I'd love to hear your thoughts, but I don't think that doesn't end in apocalyptic scale violence.
This is why I think we have to reach some compromise here, so let me ask you this, do you think lower intelligence is necessarily the road to violence or is that a failure of society and toxic cultural attitudes not pushing more people in the direction of getting honest and necessary work even if it's not "doctors and engineers"?
I think the economy is going to take a tumble, and the big baby that is America will start to cry and throw a tantrum. From there, the political capital is endless and anything can happen. However Soviet Computing is a great insight into how a failing system deals with innovation versus a still quite healthy one. Resources being sent to computer scientists at IBM vs the Soviet programs are like night and day compared to their focus and efficiency of resources. We are speaking at the current zenith of one, and the other went into a downward spiral of self-congratulation, punishments, alternative theories which never worked, and slowly a dismissal of the importance of the internet or digital computation. All of our social problems are going to go likewise and to the power of the bankers and their pet corporations.
The power of the state will fade, and the rise of the money-powers will rise still further than you might think possible. The corporations will be the front men, and their hierarchies within and in the larger economy will become the structure of modern social decay and disorder. We will be appalled at the state of things and simultaneously not be able to offer an alternative which would not be seen as a deeper madness to the people.
The problem is how are the rich going to stay rich if a failure of society and toxic cultural attitudes pushes more people in the direction of getting honest and necessary work? If you can solve that problem then you have a stable system, however if you can't then you either assume the rich will just take their loses maturely or that their attempts to change things will not work.
There schemes are going to play themselves out socially, what happens at the end is the only decision-point.
Are we going to have to accept a little socialism and dare I say, equity, to level things out for those who aren't as capable?
People have to want to sacrifice for their group, who are their group? Is it Christians? Is it Whites? Is it Americans? Watch the Thomas Sowell video again, once the reigning demographics are villainized then they stop wanting to be a member of the larger group. Where it goes from there, I can't tell you but Whites won't peacefully setup a cooperative solution once they perceive former in-groups wanting to kill them. The mutual empathy is dying, or movies about random violence and the random violence themselves wouldn't be culturally acceptable.
We're leaving the stage of civilization where sacrifice is going to be asked for, now force will be used and dissent will be punished where it is found. We are ceasing to be the people you think we are. and we are going to accept more and more to be left alone. The only solution is further white flight because the majority of Whites still think love is the answer. Love has been tried from the top down, the bottom up population will not love the feral violence inflicted on their children.
The problem is whites selling imaginations to blacks, lending them dreams, and the result is decline which is fought against from the top down. After the eventual collapse, things will be recoverable or not but the arrow has left the bow and is in flight. Nothing culturally can be done at this point,
there are no political solutions.
I think where I feel uncomfortable of course with something like equity is it's not about giving blacks more jobs in labor, it's about giving them cushy jobs in things like STEM where they probably don't belong, the BLM types are sharks that smell blood in the water and dream of getting large amounts of money that they don't deserve, it's not about minimalizing the worst of the situation with the ghettos and gangbangery, they all dream of having the wealth of an NBA star.
I mean how do you think saying "ok, we'll help you get jobs as dishwashers, garbagemen, janitors and other assorted labor easier" is going to sound to a BLM thug?
Bad, its going to sound bad. Which is why they're told they're going to be artists and shit.
The wishful thinking of the upper classes is that everything different in society is a social construct, and the truth is that America became more like the television show The Wire rather than less. Watching that show today and realizing things have gotten worse over larger parts of America really sets things into perspective.
The rich prefer to retain their power and society lose, than lose their power and retain society. They're scheming away trying to square the circle of society healing itself while they make bank. It can't be done, and so society rots while governments swear they are closing in on a solution they're just as distant from intellectually as they will always be. Collapse, like a junkie hits rock bottom, is the only path out of this. We're high on our own supply of morality and its causing us to want a lifestyle that cannot be.
This doesn't get fixed, it finally breaks economically and then socially, and then we move on to other things.
Which makes it seem like an impossible situation that doesn't eventually end with everything we've ever known burning down in flames, but is it really that bleak or is there some middle ground to find?
Either things just happen outside our control which fix everything, or we fail lightly and learn to take things seriously, or we learn how to survive and maintain a more moderate standard of living in ever smaller groups over and over, or we suddenly mature and decide to deeply change things.
Conversely something kills us out of nowhere, we brutally instill a simpler workable system, we learn how to survive and maintain a more moderate standard of living in ever larger and less human groups over and over or we suddenly hit the limit of our resources and promptly collapse.
I will say that I believe blacks deserve to be treated as compassionately as is possible within reasonable limits, I think this is one place where white people are at fault is we just tuned the issue out for decades and kept kicking that can down the road while the problem only continued to fester and rot until reaching a point where it doesn't seem like it can be solved without violence and that is our fault.
There is no escape. We all failed to secure the existence of Linconia.
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