UN What Are Those Mysterious New Towers Looming Over New York’s Sidewalks? - As the city upgrades to 5G wireless, the streetscape is changing. Not everyone is impressed.

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A new 5G tower on Mulberry Street in Manhattan’s Chinatown. Amir Hamja for The New York Times

By Dodai Stewart
Nov. 5, 2022

A curiously futuristic tower recently appeared on the corner of Putnam and Bedford Avenues in the Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood of Brooklyn. A gray column topped by a perforated casing, at a whopping 32 feet tall, it reaches higher than the three-story brick building behind it.

Sixty-year-old Marion Little, who owns Stripper Stain & Supplies, the hardware store that has operated on that corner for 17 years, said that he and his neighbors had received no warning. One day there were workers outside; then the tower materialized.

“We were shocked because we had no idea what it was,” Mr. Little said. Since it’s right outside his store, people keep asking him about it. “They’ve been emailing me, calling me weekends, Facebooking me, like, ‘Yo, what’s that?’ and I’m sitting there like, ‘I have no clue.’”

The object in question is a new 5G antenna tower erected by LinkNYC, the latest hardware in New York’s sweeping technological upgrade.

New York City has an agreement with CityBridge, the team behind LinkNYC, that involves installing 2,000 5G towers over the next several years, an effort to help eliminate the city’s “internet deserts.” Ninety percent will be in underserved areas of the city — neighborhoods in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and above 96th Street in Manhattan.

Once the towers are activated, residents will have access to free digital calling and free high-speed Wi-Fi as well as 5G service. Many of the locations were previously home to pay phones.

According to officials in the city’s Office of Technology and Innovation, 40 percent of New York City households lack the combination of home and mobile broadband, including 18 percent of residents — more than 1.5 million people — who lack both.

The 5G towers, as well as fiber cables underground, will make up an infrastructure that carriers like AT&T and Verizon can use to provide better service to customers. Most of the towers, including the one on Mr. Little’s corner, have not yet been activated.

But as is often the case when something new appears on the New York City streetscape, people seem startled by the large structures — and some have expressed unfounded fears about 5G. They’re concerned about the towers’ sheer size and, in some cases, the wrecked views from third-floor windows. Mr. Little also questioned the practicality of placing the tower on his corner at the B26 bus stop: “The buses turn here,” he said. “It’s going to be easy to miscalculate and hit the thing.”

Another 5G tower popped up in Fort Greene, on the corner of Vanderbilt and Myrtle Avenues, again, by a bus stop — the B69. It looms alongside a three-story residential building with a ground-level liquor store.

Mark Malecki, 26, who moved to New York City in mid-October from Richmond, Va., has an intimate view framed by his third-floor bedroom window. “I wasn’t even quite sure what it was,” he said.

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The new tower at the corner of at Bedford and Putnam Avenues in Bedford-Stuyvesant caught residents by surprise. Amir Hamja for The New York Times

Just down the street lives Renee Collymore, a 50-year-old Brooklynite who said her family is “four generations deep in this neighborhood” and who serves as the Democratic liaison for the 57th Assembly District in Fort Greene. She has been wary of the tower since it appeared this summer.

As the head of the Vanderbilt Avenue Block Association, Ms. Collymore said, “Never have I heard one mention of residents asking for a tower to be placed where we live.” She plans to hold a meeting about it.

Before this tower came, I had fine service,” Ms. Collymore continued. “What, a call dropped every now and then? So what. You keep going.”

In Manhattan’s Chinatown, where a tower cropped up on the corner of Mulberry and Bayard Streets, one resident of a nearby building declared it a “monstrosity.”

“Who wants to look at something like that?” she asked.

The towers are not the only 5G antennas being installed in New York City. Others are going up on city property, like traffic lights and streetlamps.

At the end of September, jackhammering could be heard outside of the six-story brick building on the Upper East Side where Chelsea Formica, 32, lives with her husband, Joe, and their infant son.

Ms. Formica was in New Jersey visiting her mother when Joe called. “He was like, ‘Hey, you know, they put something up outside of our window. I’m just laying here on the couch and it’s pretty big.’” Then Ms. Formica got home. “I was like, ‘Oh, my God,’ freaking out. It’s huge. It’s so big.”

Workers for the telecommunications company ExteNet had installed a cylindrical object roughly the size of a human being: a 5G antenna that is 63 inches tall and 21 inches in diameter, according to the company. It is accompanied by a box that is 38 inches high, 16 inches wide and 14 inches deep — about the size of a filing cabinet or a night stand.

The imposing antenna is mounted on top of a slender pole, three stories high — more than 30 feet in the air — and right in front of Ms. Formica’s living-room window. It’s also just steps away from where their 5-month-old baby sleeps, which makes Ms. Formica uncomfortable.

“People say that it is safe; the F.C.C. says it’s safe and everything,” she said. “We’re just worried that it’s so close to my son’s bedroom.”

Alex Wyglinski, the associate dean of graduate studies and a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Worcester Polytechnic Institute, said residents need not worry. He noted that 5G is non-ionizing radiation, on the opposite end of the spectrum from ionizing rays that people need protection from, like UV rays and X-rays.

In addition, Dr. Wyglinski said, the tower “cannot just blast energy everywhere. It’s going to be hyper-focused points of energy going directly to your cellphone.”

And while the towers are tall, “you’ll get used to it,” he said. Just like streetlights and traffic lights, he added, “this will get integrated into the cityscape.”

Ms. Formica and her next-door neighbor Virginie Glaenzer, whose window view is also dominated by the antenna, took a measuring tape to the sidewalk and discovered that the newly installed pole is slightly less than 10 feet away from the building, a distance that typically triggers a community notification process, according to the agreement between New York City and ExteNet.

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From her apartment window on the Upper East Side, Virginie Glaenzer has a close-up view of a new 5G antenna.Credit...Amir Hamja for The New York Times

Ms. Glaenzer and Ms. Formica contacted their local representatives and handed out fliers urging their neighbors to do the same. They would like to see the antenna removed — or at least moved across the street, alongside the Asphalt Green turf field and not next to a residential building.

Julie Menin, the New York City Council member who represents Ms. Formica, Ms. Glaenzer and the rest of District 5, said that she has, on behalf of her constituents, asked the city to hire a third party to conduct emissions tests on the antennas to ensure that they comply with federal regulations, and the city’s Office of Technology and Innovation has agreed to do so.

The city also asked ExteNet to move the antenna, but ExteNet said it had no plans to do so. Ms. Formica said she wouldn’t feel comfortable living next to it once it is turned on. She isn’t sure she would move out, she said, but she would consider her options. “I think I would look into a lawyer.”

As for Ms. Glaenzer, she laughed as she pointed to some crystals she’d placed in a bowl on the windowsill in front of the antenna. “They’re supposed to remove the radiation,” she said, shrugging. “You’re just holding on to whatever you have.”

A correction was made on Nov. 5, 2022: An earlier version of this article incorrectly characterized a 5G tower on the Upper East Side. Its location, less than 10 feet from a building, typically triggers a community notification process. It does not put it in violation of the city contract.

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What I read is that 5G is actually shorter range. It also doesn't penetrate buildings as well. So I guess it needs to be closer to the ground. I think also it has a variety of receivers for similar reasons which probably adds to the bulk.

Ugly as fuck regardless of any technical factors anyway. Looks like one end of those padded batons that American Gladiators used to use to knock each other off platforms with.
Is 5G really that much of an improvement over 4G that it's necessary to dot the landscape in hundreds of short range towers? How much is maintenance on this shit going to cost?
 
Is 5G really that much of an improvement over 4G that it's necessary to dot the landscape in hundreds of short range towers? How much is maintenance on this shit going to cost?
I imagine that's the point, someone is probably trading favours for cash or vice versa; and has some investment sunk into the companies that maintain these towers.
 
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Is 5G really that much of an improvement over 4G that it's necessary to dot the landscape in hundreds of short range towers? How much is maintenance on this shit going to cost?
5G is very important. Look at it this way. Everybody has a mobile phone now. These phones can do pretty much whatever the average person needs. Camera quality is fantastic, they're quick enough, you can watch movies on them, store GBs of photo and video and sync all of that to the cloud if you hit capacity. People still want a little more battery life and a little more storage but they're not going to ditch a working phone just for that. They'll get it in the course of old phones slowly dying. Essentially the market is saturated and no longer expanding. So how can you keep selling phones? And more, you want to charge higher fees for data in an environment and need to justify that. Now add to that the fact you already paid a fortune to governments for the spectrum allocated for 5G and you need to recoup those billions...

So I think you can see now that 5G is in fact of vital importance. Not to the average user of course who don't really need to stream 4K on their phone. But to the big companies. If people don't buy into 5G can you imagine what a mess that would be?

Frankly, I think it's disrespectful of you to even ask the question of how much of an improvement 5G is. You're missing the point entirely!
 
Near as I can tell COVID didn't kill anyone either. It was an extremely disappointing couple of years.
Oh, it killed a lot of people. It's just going to be ten years or so before all those socially isolated kids raised not seeing facial expressions or playing with other children actually pull the trigger.
 
Oh, it killed a lot of people. It's just going to be ten years or so before all those socially isolated kids raised not seeing facial expressions or playing with other children actually pull the trigger.
sounds like content to me
 
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At first I thought the flier/contact the representative thing would just be ultimately meaningless, but that woman in the article has an apartment on 5th Avenue in the Upper East Side that overlooks Central Park...she's loaded.

Her "neighborhood group" has money behind it, and she probably WILL succeed at getting it moved.
 
Nobody has convinced me that the push to 5G is necessary and frankly I think if these people hate the towers so much they should invest in chainsaws. Of course they won't because city people are dumber than pigs and fully support this shit even after it inconveniences them. They are all hypocrites and I am glad I live nowhere near a place where these people and this stupid shit might ever invade my life.
 
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What I read is that 5G is actually shorter range. It also doesn't penetrate buildings as well. So I guess it needs to be closer to the ground. I think also it has a variety of receivers for similar reasons which probably adds to the bulk.
It depends on what type of 5G you are talking about. Mid-band, or millimeter wave.

Is 5G really that much of an improvement over 4G that it's necessary to dot the landscape in hundreds of short range towers? How much is maintenance on this shit going to cost?
5G can be as much as 10x faster than than 4G. 5G can also have more than 40x less latency. Current implementations are 3x faster than 4G and have 2x lower latency.
 
Is 5G really that much of an improvement over 4G that it's necessary to dot the landscape in hundreds of short range towers? How much is maintenance on this shit going to cost?
It further enables the IoT madness and more. It's not as much about you watching netflix on your phone. 5G will bring us into a more connected world!

Wait you're still not thrilled about it?
 
They also want to use 5G to solve the last mile problem once and for all.

Notice the “use 5G for home / business internet” ads? If they pull it off their capex goes to almost zero- last mile is so much of the cost.

The funny part is that the 5G ATT at my parents house is liek 100mbps while their home ATT internet is 15mbps, and that's the max.
 
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So.... how long before we get some psycho new yorker screaming that the outer limits predicted this
 
A 5G tower that close to the ground and residence? lol. A lot of people are going to wonder why they feel nauseous for no reason and retards doing retarded things for social media clout are going to get cooked alive by those things if they fight through the feeling of getting kicked in the nuts by a deer.

I don't know how much juice those things are going to be outputting at but I don't expect to go well at all.
Hell back in the 60s those AM radio stations out of Juarez were so powerful they'd kill a bunch of birds every day (according to Wolfman Jack) and I don't recall hearing about anyone in both sides of the border having their brains fried by that.
 
A 5G tower that close to the ground and residence? lol. A lot of people are going to wonder why they feel nauseous for no reason and retards doing retarded things for social media clout are going to get cooked alive by those things if they fight through the feeling of getting kicked in the nuts by a deer.

I don't know how much juice those things are going to be outputting at but I don't expect to go well at all.
As mentioned, 5G has shorter range. They talk about putting these things up every 500ft.
Instead of relying on large towers placed far apart, the new signals will come from smaller equipment placed an average of 500 feet apart in neighborhoods and business districts.
 
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