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Given Brown's hard-on for Classical Greece I think it was more a way to work some Hubris into the MC's character arc. It's also a bit hero's journey, the good guys have to lose something for their victories to matter, or it's just Mary Sueish. The MC reaping the whirlwind after sowing the wind is a theme in the second group of books too. The funny thing is I watched an interview with Brown and he couldn't figure out the YA label, it wasn't intentional on his part.I wanted to get back into reading and a friend recommended Red Rising. I was very skeptical because of the YA label, but I really enjoyed Red Rising and Golden Sun. Blitzed through them both in little over a week. I just completed the third book, Morning Star. I can't put my finger on it, but it felt like a definitive step down. I haven't gone on my regular review binge after finishing a book but I get the sense Pierce Brown listened to the criticism that the MC is too competent and made him much less so when that competence is a refreshing part of the narrative when most MCs are borderline idiots these days.
I'm much more inclined to agree with you now that I've started Dark Age. With that said I still maintain my view that the harshness of how Darrow is depicted in Morning Star was a response to Gary Stu accusations. He doesn't have a single serious and memorable solo feat in the books.Given Brown's hard-on for Classical Greece I think it was more a way to work some Hubris into the MC's character arc. It's also a bit hero's journey, the good guys have to lose something for their victories to matter, or it's just Mary Sueish. The MC reaping the whirlwind after sowing the wind is a theme in the second group of books too. The funny thing is I watched an interview with Brown and he couldn't figure out the YA label, it wasn't intentional on his part.
I've been reading Costin Alamariu's (Bronze Age Pervert IRL) Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy and it weirdly works really well as a companion to Red Rising in explaining aspects of the Classic Greek mindset that Brown works into Red Rising. It was not something I was expecting, but welcome.
And that's entirely possible, I never thought of Darrow as a Gary Stu, if only because Brown does a good job in showing his growth, I can see how people would though. I really don't know how many modern protagonists are actually portrayed as competent, so it is possible that most millennials and zoomers just can't sort that from Gary Stus. Darrow is a bit of a blunt instrument, but he is very, very good at it. Maybe he did just want to demonstrate that other characters are also competent in their own areas and it's not just the Darrow show all the time.I'm much more inclined to agree with you now that I've started Dark Age. With that said I still maintain my view that the harshness of how Darrow is depicted in Morning Star was a response to Gary Stu accusations. He doesn't have a single serious and memorable solo feat in the books.
I can't speak to Bronze Age Mindset, I've only read a bit of it, but his actual academic work is good. It is a doctoral dissertation though, so it's dense. A good read though.I am going to read BAPs books now. To be honest I dismissed them before. Thank you for your insight.