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Dont forget how AMD killed FM1 after a single generation, same with AM1. FM2+ only got a single CPU generation. I could go on.
Not many people are upgrading from 6 or 7000 series intel to 8 or 9000. Most reviews for 9000 series intel CPUs are coming from 3000 or 4000 series owners, where the platform upgrade makes sense given DDR4 and NVMe support. For the majority of buyers, that motherboard being forward compatible doesnt mean anything. And given how many X570 AMD boards are selling to previous ryzen owners, it would seem AMD's own supporters dont care that much anyway when new features come out.
Of course, what you fail to mention is that the difference past 6 threads is almost meaningless. Taking a look at TPU's battlefield 1 benchmark:This is completely false. Battlefield 4, 1 and 5 shows that the future is multi-threaded. DOOM 2016 loves CPU cores and threads, even with the Vulcan API. Even Tech Deals pointed out the i7 9700k has worse overall lows than the 3700/3800X.
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Intel Core i7-9700K Review
Intel's Core i7-9700K comes with eight cores, but lacks HyperThreading. In our testing, it still conclusively beats the 6-core/12-thread Core i7-8700K. The much more expensive Core i9-9900K is also under heavy attack: it seems the Core i7-9700K actually is the better gaming CPU.
OOOF. Looks like, in a CPU bound scenario, the 8700k is a whopping 6 FPS slower then a 9700k, from 268 to 262 FPS. Not that big of a difference my man. Somehow, I dont think having SMT is going to save AMD here, nor is it so necessary. Taking a look at the 3700x VS battlefield V:
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Review
AMD's $330 Ryzen 7 3700X is an 8-core, 16-thread CPU that's clocked high enough to compete with Intel's offerings. Actually, its application performance matches even the more expensive Intel Core i9-9900K. Gaming performance has been increased significantly, too, thanks to the improved...
Huh. Look at that. Despite having 2 more cores, substantially better performance, and SMT, the 3700x is still slower then the 6 core 6 thread 8600k. And despite having 2 more cores and 4 more threads then the 8700k, the best the 3700x can do is match the intel chip. That's a little awkward, almost like having extra cores and SMT/hyperthreading does positively jack shit in 99% of games, and by the time the CPU needs upgraded for performance reasons, the entire platform is long dead, so being able to put 3 different gens of CPUs into a board is kinda meaningless, and you are better off buying the best you can within your budget instead of wasting money on incremental updates every year.
For the record, my ivy bridge i5 still plays modern releases like borderlands 3, ace combat 7, and civ vi without issue, despite being almost a decade old.
Interesting, as AMD has no phone number on their CPU warranty page:
Nor on their "contact us" page:
NOR their contact support page:
Meanwhile:
"This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan (HSF) that does not support operation of the AMD processor in conformance with AMD’s publicly available specifications. Use of HSF solutions determined by AMD as incapable of such performance or which are determined to have contributed to the failure of the processor shall invalidate the warranty. "
This line is used by AMD customer support to deny warranty requests if you use coolers other then theirs, even when said coolers comply with their specs, because how a cooler falls under complete compliance with AMD's specifications is known only to AMD's support team. I suspect the support teams, based out of india or somewhere similar, are understaffed and are given bonuses for low warranty numbers, leading to 72-96 hour response times and BS claim rejections like what I experienced.
This is why I buy from amazon instead of newegg, despite newegg having better search tools and sometimes better prices. Amazon's no questions 30 day return/replacement policy is amazing for system builders that may need a week of testing to find a faulty part.
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