What if the child consents though?

If God didn't want people to fuck kids he wouldn't have made them so hot. End of story.
up until not much more than 100 years ago, the life expectancy was only 35 or 45. jewish kids became adults at 13 and back then, it wasn't any of this "today i am a fountain pen" stuff of the Bar and Bat Mitzvah kids, but they got right to shtupping and making babies. One haredi rabbi I know has 16 kids by the same woman
 
Consents to what? Below the age of 14, a female is not emotionally developed well enough to be trusted to make an informed decision about having sex without getting an STD or pregnant . At 16 they're getting there. If you study the age of consent around the world, you'll see that the majority of the world's population lives in countries that have the AOC set between 14 and 16 and those that are set at 18 have a variety of exceptions allowing for it back down to as low as 12. Several countries set at 18, allow for sex with minor boys. I think Nigerian law has circumstances defined that allow for down to 9, which is the reason stupid people think I want to lower the age of consent 9. Traditional cultures need to be taken into consideration in this argument. My position is that the age of unconditional consent should be 16, allowing exceptions for family arranged marriages of minors to men no more than twice their age.

I'll let somebody else argue with the floor should be 9 or 12 that's much better read on the subject of tribal marriage contracts. I just know the traditions of my ancestors and Sholom Aleichem presented that to the world in Fiddler on the Roof. Parents married their older daughters off to wealthy widowers a lot. Trafficking needs to be monitored especially closely on this because families in the orient sell their excess daughters to the traffickers. I think the way around that , to protect the bride, is to require the groom's parent's signature blessing the union. I don't think recreational sex should be legalized between adult men and minors, but i do think exceptions for ancient cultures to be able to carry on their mating traditions. Same thing with male circumcision and possibly female too, after listening to a young African mother talk about herself and her daughter. I think these sorts of things should be left alone by cultures who don't practice those things.

The rule of thumb among my people , is that the man should no more than twice the age of the minor female, which is why i never gave it a second thought back then and nobody will ever make me feel shame about it now. i wasn't more than twice her age and she had been living with a man a few years younger than me for over a year.
can a 15 yr old runaway consent to group sex with two drug addicts living in a drugden? what about if one of the drug addicts is 28?
 
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Consents to what? Below the age of 14, a female is not emotionally developed well enough to be trusted to make an informed decision about having sex without getting an STD or pregnant . At 16 they're getting there. If you study the age of consent around the world, you'll see that the majority of the world's population lives in countries that have the AOC set between 14 and 16 and those that are set at 18 have a variety of exceptions allowing for it back down to as low as 12. Several countries set at 18, allow for sex with minor boys. I think Nigerian law has circumstances defined that allow for down to 9, which is the reason stupid people think I want to lower the age of consent 9. Traditional cultures need to be taken into consideration in this argument. My position is that the age of unconditional consent should be 16, allowing exceptions for family arranged marriages of minors to men no more than twice their age.

I'll let somebody else argue with the floor should be 9 or 12 that's much better read on the subject of tribal marriage contracts. I just know the traditions of my ancestors and Sholom Aleichem presented that to the world in Fiddler on the Roof. Parents married their older daughters off to wealthy widowers a lot. Trafficking needs to be monitored especially closely on this because families in the orient sell their excess daughters to the traffickers. I think the way around that , to protect the bride, is to require the groom's parent's signature blessing the union. I don't think recreational sex should be legalized between adult men and minors, but i do think exceptions for ancient cultures to be able to carry on their mating traditions. Same thing with male circumcision and possibly female too, after listening to a young African mother talk about herself and her daughter. I think these sorts of things should be left alone by cultures who don't practice those things.

The rule of thumb among my people , is that the man should no more than twice the age of the minor female, which is why i never gave it a second thought back then and nobody will ever make me feel shame about it now. i wasn't more than twice her age and she had been living with a man a few years younger than me for over a year.
sorry. i was multi-tasking and forgot to include the link to the world AOC wiki.

 
can a 15 yr old runaway consent to group sex with two drug addicts living in a drugden? what about if one of the drug addicts is 28?

Maybe you should read the Torah before asking stupid questions. Obviously, the answer is yes, if she can trace her matrilineal line to the Tribe of Zebulun, Levi, or Rechab. Otherwise, she has to be 16.
 
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Consents to what? Below the age of 14, a female is not emotionally developed well enough to be trusted to make an informed decision about having sex without getting an STD or pregnant . At 16 they're getting there. If you study the age of consent around the world, you'll see that the majority of the world's population lives in countries that have the AOC set between 14 and 16 and those that are set at 18 have a variety of exceptions allowing for it back down to as low as 12. Several countries set at 18, allow for sex with minor boys. I think Nigerian law has circumstances defined that allow for down to 9, which is the reason stupid people think I want to lower the age of consent 9. Traditional cultures need to be taken into consideration in this argument. My position is that the age of unconditional consent should be 16, allowing exceptions for family arranged marriages of minors to men no more than twice their age.

I'll let somebody else argue with the floor should be 9 or 12 that's much better read on the subject of tribal marriage contracts. I just know the traditions of my ancestors and Sholom Aleichem presented that to the world in Fiddler on the Roof. Parents married their older daughters off to wealthy widowers a lot. Trafficking needs to be monitored especially closely on this because families in the orient sell their excess daughters to the traffickers. I think the way around that , to protect the bride, is to require the groom's parent's signature blessing the union. I don't think recreational sex should be legalized between adult men and minors, but i do think exceptions for ancient cultures to be able to carry on their mating traditions. Same thing with male circumcision and possibly female too, after listening to a young African mother talk about herself and her daughter. I think these sorts of things should be left alone by cultures who don't practice those things.

The rule of thumb among my people , is that the man should no more than twice the age of the minor female, which is why i never gave it a second thought back then and nobody will ever make me feel shame about it now. i wasn't more than twice her age and she had been living with a man a few years younger than me for over a year.
This thread isn't the place to get tips on how to make the child consent, you washed up hippie. Don't you have dogs to ogle in a back alley somewhere?
 
The rule of thumb among my people , is that the man should no more than twice the age of the minor female, which is why i never gave it a second thought back then and nobody will ever make me feel shame about it now. i wasn't more than twice her age and she had been living with a man a few years younger than me for over a year.
You don't have any people, Tom. You are a lone, shambling beast, shunned by the pack.

You'll never feel shame because you're a psychopath. You can't feel shame.

The fact that another man abused her doesn't mean "oh, she's already broke, might as well get in there myself!"
That's the thought process of a monster.


Your mind is diseased, and I'm glad you're old and near death.
 
Is it morally wrong to do so?
Moral compass bearings vary from culture to culture. In this Colombian culture, the young men fuck donkeys as their rite of passage and the women are glad of it because they're not getting raped and knocked up at 13. I think there are 17 states where fucking horses is legal.

Maybe you should read the Torah before asking stupid questions. Obviously, the answer is yes, if she can trace her matrilineal line to the Tribe of Zebulun, Levi, or Rechab. Otherwise, she has to be 16.
Maybe you shouldn't take anything that maggot asserts about me as true, clubbing a dead horse with him. 13 was the age of consent in biblical times. he's lying about me for profit.

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You don't have any people, Tom. You are a lone, shambling beast, shunned by the pack.

You'll never feel shame because you're a psychopath. You can't feel shame.

The fact that another man abused her doesn't mean "oh, she's already broke, might as well get in there myself!"
That's the thought process of a monster.


Your mind is diseased, and I'm glad you're old and near death.
You're hilariously wrong. I'm an artist. Artists don't run with packs and I shield my close friends from insane brain washed incels and deviant infantile imbeciles like this crowd. My mother is old, her death isn't imminent and neither am I, you malicious, misinformed , millennial mental midget.


Were you there? No. You cannot say that she was abused by anybody with any valid authority, you self righteous hypocritical hedonistic harlot. She wasn't. She was mature enough to walk out of her parents' home at 9, making her own decisions about who she would sleep with and what she would do with the person when she got there. To my knowledge, nobody ever got anything from her that she didn't want to give them. She is an extraordinarily talented woman who has led a rich life and is a grandmother now. You are nothing but human garbage joining in a great lie being propagated by agents of the illegal covert government, you nazi nitwit.
 
up until not much more than 100 years ago, the life expectancy was only 35 or 45. jewish kids became adults at 13 and back then, it wasn't any of this "today i am a fountain pen" stuff of the Bar and Bat Mitzvah kids, but they got right to shtupping and making babies. One haredi rabbi I know has 16 kids by the same woman
I don't know how Jews did it, but in Christendom, even as far back as 800 years ago, the average age of first marriages tended to be mid-to-late-twenties for men, and early-to-mid-twenties for women. For example:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2174029?seq=1

Also, the "life expectancy" of Christians was "only 35 or 45" - but that was the mean life expectancy. i.e. it's a misleading number that doesn't accurately reflect the age most people were when they died, because it factors in infant mortality and deaths in childbirth. If you survived past infancy, chances were good that you'd live a fairly robust life. You weren't going to just magically keel over dead at 40.

And yes, the "age of consent" was low in the pre-modern period, but that's because hardly anyone ever thought to have sex with someone that young. You don't need a law to stop people from doing something they're already not doing. And that's age of consent for marriage. Last I checked, you weren't trying to marry that girl, you were just trying to rape her.
 
For those of you who don’t follow @Miss Tommie Jayne Wasserberg, he’s specifically talking about what has come to be known as “the Sabrina incident.” Sabrina was a child who was 13 when he first met her, and he admitted to being sexually attracted to her at the time. At some point when she was 15, she was living with Tom and a woman he describes as “a welfare mama (hereafter referred to as “WM”).

He claims that during this time, he walked in on Sabrina and WM having sex. He claims that they then invited him to join them. This seems unlikely, given that he has indicated that neither of them were sexually attracted to him before this point. He has a history of providing vulnerable people with a place to live in exchange for something in return, so it seems likely that some form of coercion was involved.

He claims that he fingered Sabrina (in his words, “made her vagina sing”). The exact details vary, as he often changes this part of the story. At this point, WM insisted that he stop, on the grounds that he was paying too much attention to Sabrina and not enough to her. Once again, this seems strange, and the more likely version of events was that Sabrina became upset and WM insisted that he stop.

What happened then is uncertain. However, this appears to have been the sole sexual encounter between him and either Sabrina or WM, which backs up the theory that neither of them actually wanted to participate in the act.

As you can see from Tom’s description below, Sabrina was a troubled child who ran away from home at the age of nine, and was thus easy prey for sexual predators. Tom would appear to have been merely one in a long line of men willing to sexually assault a child for their own sick self-gratification.
Were you there? No. You cannot say that she was abused by anybody with any valid authority, you self righteous hypocritical hedonistic harlot. She wasn't. She was mature enough to walk out of her parents' home at 9, making her own decisions about who she would sleep with and what she would do with the person when she got there. To my knowledge, nobody ever got anything from her that she didn't want to give them. She is an extraordinarily talented woman who has led a rich life and is a grandmother now. You are nothing but human garbage joining in a great lie being propagated by agents of the illegal covert government, you nazi nitwit.
 
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