What if we dealt with AIDS when it first broke out?

[Mariposa Electrique]

Cuban people (particularly the punk rock subculture) were deliberately infecting themselves in order to get into the quarantine areas. Apparently they were kind of like clubs where rebels who didn’t want to participate in normal society could safely live.

'Los Frikis': The Cuban punks who deliberately infected themselves with HIV

One of the men, Gerson Govea, talks about his experiences.

www.google.com

Lolz, if the Nazis had the same propaganda for concentration campsz they would have succeeded. I swear, some people are rate morons.

 

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Cuban people (particularly the punk rock subculture) were deliberately infecting themselves in order to get into the quarantine areas. Apparently they were kind of like clubs where rebels who didn’t want to participate in normal society could safely live.

'Los Frikis': The Cuban punks who deliberately infected themselves with HIV

One of the men, Gerson Govea, talks about his experiences.

www.google.com

I believe that story originally came from Vice, so I don't even believe that the few freaks they talked to actually did that intentionally.

Back at the beginning it was figured that only faggots and druggies got it, so nobody cared much if at all.

Not true- many innocent haemophiliacs were affected by those people's practices.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I believe the virus originated from eating monkeys. Green monkeys I think. Then gay sex tourists came to Africa and elsewhere and it spread.

 

[Boss Bass]

And the Band Played On...

An interesting read about Patient Zero thought to be the one that brought the AIDS epidemic to America. But that was debunked in 2016. See this: http://www.virology.ws/2016/11/16/dugas-was-not-aids-patient-zero/

The problem with containment then is that GRIDS was poorly understood and hadn't appeared outside the gay community. So in essence, they could have rounded up every queer in San Francisco and stuck them on Alcatraz or something, but it was already too late and GRIDS was fagging it's way throughout the country.

The progress research has made in fighting RNA viruses is incredible. Perhaps a vaccine in the future and only anti-vaxxers will get AIDS.

the discovery of GRID at all was incredibly happenstance. A filer at the CDC (or NIH) basically went “boy, it’s weird that a bunch of 20 somethings got legionnaires disease!”

atbpo is probably the best nonfiction book ever written. Worth a read by anyone interested in learning more. Definitely has a balanced take too, don’t worry about pussyfooting around the bathhouses’ minimal response in time of crisis.

 

[JoshPlz]

Mandatory HIV testing for citizens and visibly marking the infected with a tattoo on the forehead (or less extreme: somewhere less visible, so it would only become evident to a potential sexual partner upon inspection) would be extremely effective in eradicating the plague - even at this point.

Sure, it would suck for HIV carriers, but being infected with a deadly disease (increasingly often on purpose) does too.


Edit:

The film is a dystopian science fiction thriller set in the near future in a more authoritarian America. It deals with the social persecution and criminalisation of people who are infected with a sexually transmitted infection similar to HIV. Those who test positive for the disease are forcibly placed into quarantine camps. In the quarantine camps they are tattooed with a P by the authorities to indicate their positive status and shot if they try to escape. The quarantine camps are dilapidated places where patients are left to die without care or contact with the outside world.

Fucking based!

 

[Harnessed Carcass]

You know who I blame?

Hyper sexual faggots errywhere

 

[Oskar Dirlewanger]

"The only sensible thing" would be to let it spread. Some faggots and niggers would die, as God intended. But maybe niggers would actually develop a cure, last time I checked they were experimenting with extracting gold from bald men's head so I think they onto something.

 

[Iriya Asagao]

Africa seems to be the common place for ground zero diseases.

It's high time for the world to be annexed by the US or any western civilization

 

[Where Do You Find Them?]

Having a transfusion of monkey blood would just straight up kill you, that's fucking exceptional.

No, people have had successful transfusions from sheep. Transfusions from monkeys have been done multiple times, so long as it's O- blood you're fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenotransfusion

 

[The Pink Panther]

Some faggots and niggers would die

Oh, so you?

 

[Shroom King]

I believe the virus originated from eating monkeys. Green monkeys I think. Then gay sex tourists came to Africa and elsewhere and it spread.

HIV cannot be transmitted by food, proof:

https://archive.ph/cx6VZ

Someone fucked the green monkey, proof below that people are shitbags and will fuck anything:

 

[Thumb Butler]

With medical knowledge and Africa being Africa, who knows, AIDS may have been around far before the 40s and 50s, we just didn’t know it yet.

This is an interesting read.

Timeline of HIV/AIDS - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Scientists estimate that HIV was circulating in Kinshasan by the 1920s "

A horrifying case from 1976:

Arvid Noe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"His was the first confirmed HIV case in Europe, though the disease was not identified at the time of his death. The virus spread to his wife and youngest daughter, both of whom also died;"

 

[Otterly]

HIV cannot be transmitted by food, proof:

it can be transmitted by bushmeat hunting and slaughter - if you catch and butcher a monkey you’re exposed to blood. It’s possible to have bloodbourne transmission via cuts. Or lets say said monkey puts up a fight and bites your blood soaked arm. That’s a very deep puncture wound (monkey bites are wickedly deep and nasty) and that’d do it.

Scientists estimate that SIV has jumped to humans a couple of times and the 1920s estimate seems realistic. You can look at the ‘molecular clock’ I.e how the virus has changed over time (DNA, RNA and protein can all be used) to estimate when SIV and HIV diverged, and those estimates tally,
It’s probably HIV was floating around for a long time, just not really getting anywhere due to poor communication.

of course what should really worry us is this: what the fuck else is out there that’s just waiting for the right transmission conditions to turn into the Andromeda strain? Look at Ebola - again probably been there a while, but it kills fast and in rural areas it burns out quickly if quarantined. If that mutates you be airbourne and gets on a plane we are fucked.
We keep finding these new pathogens that were totally unknown. Hendra virus, for example. MERS. SARS. Or viruses that rip through and change epidemiology when they hit a naive population, like zika.
Emerging pathogens are a bit of a hobby of mine .... I find them terrifying and fascinating in equal measure. The heamorrhagicfever viruses in particular Are thought to have been responsible for at least a couple of historical plagues, and there’s a theory that the Black Death itself may in fa t have been something like Congo-Crimean fever rather than Yersina pestis.