What is Anarchy?

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Anarchy, in it's simplest form, is being able to choose where your money goes. Compare this to how the State takes it from you. And as Milton said, people are more careful when spending their own money than when spending someone else's.


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If you want a more detailed explanation, strap yourself in and prepare to get '''tldr'''ed

For your convenience, I'll be splitting this into parts.
  1. The difference between Government and Governance
  2. Why are Monopolies bad?
  3. What is anarchy?
  4. Without rulers, who will make the laws? Who get's to decide what?
  5. What is "Counter Economics?"

The difference between Government and Governance
  • Government: Territorial monopoly on violence, rule creation, & enforcement.
  • Governance: Accountability for consistent cohesive policies, processes, and decision rights ('Management)
What makes a Government different from every other social institution is that it has been given the legal right or insistence to initiate force against you and escalate that force until you either comply or you die. Laws are death threats, which is why people comply with them. Hence, the essence of Government being an agency with a monopoly on the initiation of force in a given geographical area.


And this Monopoly is enforced through state aggression.

'''Adam Smith's definition of monopoly''': The privilege of a legal barrier to competition, such as a license or franchise. This can be simplified to being “A grant (''Funds or products given or allowed'') from the state”. Therefore, to compete with a monopolist, is to go against the state.

Such a person would be suppressed by force, which is why monopolies and aggression are intimately related. Tariffs (Restrictions on foreign goods) are Oligoplistic (Ol-i-gop-lis-tic: Multiple Monopolies) making them a burden on both consumers and manufactures. This includes copyrights and patents as well.

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Why are Monopolies bad?

If the monopoly works for a Government, then it's in the best interest of the monopolizer to work as slowly as possible. Because the tax-payers are being forced to pay for them, they'll continue to receive the same amount of payment over a longer period of time until the task is complete. Monopolists are in a much stronger position to influence politics due to their greater financial resources. Because when the monopolizer is the only supplying firm, they have the power to raise prices without adversely affecting demand for their products/ services.

The reasons for why they would influence politics, could be to ensure that no anti-monopoly measures are undertaken. But also, to extend the monopoly to include other products or services, or to reduce safety regulations and worker rights.
Monopolies can also be made into the reason for why more state controls are needed, but these would also be under their influence.

When we're forced to pay one group of people (Government) for public services, with no alternatives, their priorities then become that of those who willingly pay them (Lobbyists), expecting something in return. Because the state continues to receive payment, regardless of their quality of service.

So instead of Government, what if we chose who we gave money to in exchange for services in the public sector? Such as Courts, Hospitals, Security, ect?

Know that Society is Private Sector plus Public Sector both organized in a significantly horizontal fashion according to anarchy.
Private Sector: Belonging to, concerning, or accessible only to an individual or specific group. A for-profit business.

Public Sector: All the people as a whole or as a community. Goods or services that benefit all of society rather than the individual. These include Security, Infrastructure, Transportation, Education, Healthcare, ect.

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What is anarchy?

Anarchy
(An-ar-chy) and Anarchism (An-ar-chism) is the system and management without rulers. Co-operation without repression, tyranny and slavery.

An” in Greek means a word without it's suffix.
A suffix is something that's added to the end of a word.
For example, the suffix for “Kind” could be a “ly”, “er”, or “est”.
The “An” is connected to the “arch”, not the “y” (The “y” indicates a system).

The suffix “arch” means “ruler” (Superior in contrast to subordinate), so Anarchy means:
Management and coordination without rulers from a bureaucracy (Economical / Administrative superiors in private and public sectors).
There can also be different percentages of anarchy. 100% anarchy means 100% coordination on equal footing, without superiors or subordinates (''A horizontal organization'').

Some common archy's include Monarchy (A state that is inherited or given to somebody's descendant), Oligarchy (The rule of a few), Polyarchy (A state ruled by more than one person), Ochlarchy (Mob rule), and Plutocracy (Plu-toc-racy or Plu-tar-chy: Control by the wealthy).

Ochlarchy (mob rule): Violent supremacy through actions of a police-like force.

All the different forms of Mob Rule, which is when a percentage of a population is controlled through the use of bullying. The pronunciation of Ochlarchy is very strange. The actual sound it makes could be written as A-car-key.
Note the difference between Supremacy and Ochlarchy is that Supremacy is the quality of being Supreme while Ochlarchy is violent Supremacy through actions of a police-like force.

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But without rulers, who will make the laws? Who get's to decide what?

Ah, the million dollar question. Firstly you need to know the difference between Laws and Rules.

Rules are relatively fixed ways to settle thing's in an orderly manner. The courts on local, regional, and confidential levels are where Common laws are created. Common or Case-generated laws are actually rules established by judges in court decisions when settling a dispute. Case law evolves as judges give reasons for their decisions and cite precedents from other cases which had a bearing on their decision.

Human interaction is subject to regulation by customs, ethics, religious belief, and common law (Case-law).

There are three possible aims of punishment: Restraint, Revenge, Reform
But the state only succeeds at the first two.

But then who will enforce these rules? Are there going to be police?

Lets have a look at what the police actually are.
Police: A civil force granted the legal authority for law enforcement and maintaining public order. It comes from the Ancient Greek word “politeía” (''To live as a citizen with rights in relation to a Government'').

Police inherently involve the use of coercion, which means to restrain and the actual or threatened use of force to compel an action by another person. But with Anarchy, the goal is not the absence of coercion, but the absence of a centralized coercive authority by a ruling class.
Examples of a private security force: Security at department stores, armoured cars that transport currency or valuable items, private investigators / detectives, nightclub bouncers, personal bodyguards, debt collectors (Repo men), and neighborhood watches.

~ By John Hasnas (Law creation, Courts, & Police)
 

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"We Fascists are the only true Anarchists!"
-Pier Paolo Pasolini

Seriously, actual anarchy is impossible in a long-term human society.

Most Anarchist societies are actually tyrannies enforced via a glorified form of mob rule, with Anarcho-Communism being the worst of the lot and Anarcho-Capitalism being the second worst.

As a general rule, Anarcho-Communists are little more than spoiled dangerhairs, soyboy hipsters, and punk losers who want to have their own fucked-up idea of utopian revenge fantasies.

Anarcho-Capitalists are the exact same, only instead of spoiled dangerhairs, soyboy hipsters, and punk rock losers, it's incels, neckbeards, and shitposters from the chans.

That's why I'm a centrist and an old-school liberal.

Fascism, Communism, and Anarchism are all vile and despotic ideologies that have all failed and belong in the trash bin of history.
 
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What is "Counter Economics?"

This is basically the black market and defines two areas;

Counter Economics: The study and/or practice of all human action which is forbidden by the State, including violation or non-compliance with regulations; sale and delivery of controlled or forbidden substances; ignoring of all borders and internal state boundaries, customs, tariffs, duties and taxes; evasion of taxes, tributes, levies and assizes; non-compliance with personal regulation.

Homesteading: A lifestyle of self-sufficiency of areas forbidden by the state but out of its reach. Failure to report anti-statist acts and to turn in anti-statists (agorists).

What is Agorism?
Agorism: From the Greek word “Agora”, which means an open place for assembly (Marketplace) The center of social and cultural life, where people could exchange ideas. Agorism itself is the philosophy that all relations between people are voluntary exchanges (Free Market) and advocates the creation of a voluntaryist society by means of Counter-Economics.

Voluntarism (Vol-un-ta-rism): A reliance on volunteers to support an institution or achieve an end. A community organized by the cooperation of individuals.


Some examples of the Free Market:

Free Market: All relations between people that are voluntary exchanges.
~ Robert LeFevre

  1. DryCell technology, for improving the efficiency of automobiles
  2. Ride-sharing programs such as Uber & Lyft
  3. Airbnb connects homeowners with potential renters via the internet.
  4. 3D printers allow users to violate patents & copyright law by downloading a model from an open-source archive or scanning objects to make CAD files that can be shared with others.
  5. BitCoin & LiteCoin are alternative currencies which allow users to by-pass Taxes and make anonymous transactions.
  6. Homemade foods
    Alcoholic beverages can be sold without a liquor license, by selling them for free and accepting donations from customers.

Seriously, actual anarchy is impossible in a long-term human society.

Most Anarchist societies are actually tyrannies enforced via a glorified form of mob rule, with Anarcho-Communism being the worst of the lot and Anarcho-Capitalism being the second worst.

If there were no police, what would be stopping you from tearing your neighbours apart?
For one, the other people in the town wouldn't take too kindly to it, even without a police presence. It''s as though you think people can't manage themselves.

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If there were no police, what would be stopping you from tearing your neighbours apart?
For one, the other people in the town wouldn't take too kindly to it, even without a police prescience. It''s as though you think people can't manage themselves.

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I'd rather have a police force that is subject to laws and regulations than the alternative of brute vigilante justice.
 
It makes me laugh that primitives throughout history have always had a power structure in society (the ones that didn't were no where near as successful) and yet after centuries of wisdom being passed down that having an organised society works, you still get dipshits drinking Starbucks moralising on people that anarchy is the only way forward. Fuck bedroom revolutionaries
 
To be fair, the only anarchists I've ever met in real life want to burn down the government but then you see them cashing in social welfare the next day or so. It's really absurd. I can respect the idea of anarchy, but not as long as its followers are absolute idiots (and always have been). I get the point, but you've got to connect more than two dots, you know.
 
Humans are inherently hierarchical, and inherently social. That means they'll form groups, and will form a pecking order within those groups, and that doesn't even touch on the basic processes required to codify professional ranking in trades, healthcare, and similar fields.

Just spitballing, but I'm assuming that the overwhelming majority of people want to have their gasfitting, plumbing, electrical, framing, roofing and the like done by people that have undergone an apprenticeship process, which requires a hierarchy be observed. I know I don't want an electrical outlet sparking and setting off a gas leak, at any rate.
 
I can respect the idea of anarchy, but not as long as its followers are absolute idiots (and always have been). I get the point, but you've got to connect more than two dots, you know.

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Just spitballing, but I'm assuming that the overwhelming majority of people want to have their gasfitting, plumbing, electrical, framing, roofing and the like done by people that have undergone an apprenticeship process, which requires a hierarchy be observed. I know I don't want an electrical outlet sparking and setting off a gas leak, at any rate.

I implore you to use a little bit of common sense. What private business would hire untrained workers? Of coarse, they can also train them while on the job, like they do in apprenticeships now. Anarchism isn't against Teacher+Student relationships, or employing managers with the skills to coordinate large groups. This could be as simple as an old fashioned traffic guard.

 
I implore you to use a little bit of common sense. What private business would hire untrained workers? Of coarse, they can also train them while on the job, like they do in apprenticeships now. Anarchism isn't against Teacher+Student relationships, or employing managers with the skills to coordinate large groups. This could be as simple as an old fashioned traffic guard.


I implore you to use a bit of common sense. What definition of anarchy does not include a complete lack of hierarchy, the exact sort which is essential to the apprenticeship process.

This is exactly why I don't bother arguing with any shade of anarchist - the instantaneous turn to treating everyone else as somehow mentally deficient, the second any kind of criticism is made. Fuck directly off.
 
I implore you to use a bit of common sense. What definition of anarchy does not include a complete lack of hierarchy, the exact sort which is essential to the apprenticeship process.

As I said before, there can also be different percentages of anarchy. The reason for that, in a situation where two or more people (Or groups) must work together to complete a task, but they have a different ways of doing it, one of them must step down.

Anarchy is widely misunderstood by those who were born and raised in a state-controlled society.

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As I said before, there can also be different percentages of anarchy. The reason for that, in a situation where two or more people (Or groups) must work together to complete a task, but they have a different ways of doing it, one of them must step down.

Anarchy is widely misunderstood by those who were born and raised in a state-controlled society.

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I don't have the time or energy to listen to you prattle on about how everyone else is an idiot, compared to you, because you can repeat a little bit of Friedman or Rand. Keep sucking dicks, OP.
 
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