What is Chris' maximum potential

[JustaCarrot]

I'd suggest giving him a job where he does something like sort bottles in a small room, but after ten minutes he'd start comparing it to a POW camp.

 

[timtommy]

Chris' maximum potential is precisely equal to the amount of effort other people are willing to put into doing things for him.

I guess that is kind of what I was getting at.

He definitely never was a huge academic success. But by graduating from high-school and getting an associates degree, he showed that he is able to read, write an understandable sentence, and do basic sums.

And he is definitely very lazy. But IMHO his academic "achievements" show that if he gets pointed in a direction, and convinced that he has to, he can achieve at a level that is within shouting distance of average.

This should have been enough that he could lead a life that is not entirely wasted. I agree that he couldn't do it on his own.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Brother, when Chris was a young boy, his life could've been different. When Borb first turned on the TV to put Sonic in the Sega Genesis on that fateful Saturday Morning, if the channel had been on WWF Superstars instead of Channel 3, it would have been possible Chris could have seen the Hulkster battling Ted Dibiase. If Chris had seen that, perhaps it would have inspired him to begin training, saying his prayers and eating his vitamins. He could've become a Hulkamaniac, man. He could have become anything he wanted to be. Instead, Chris is going to be living tugboat-to-tugboat while crapping his briefs while loitering about in public.

 

[Christ-Chan]

I guess that is kind of what I was getting at.

He definitely never was a huge academic success. But by graduating from high-school and getting an associates degree, he showed that he is able to read, write an understandable sentence, and do basic sums.

And he is definitely very lazy. But IMHO his academic "achievements" show that if he gets pointed in a direction, and convinced that he has to, he can achieve at a level that is within shouting distance of average.

This should have been enough that he could lead a life that is not entirely wasted. I agree that he couldn't do it on his own.

I also think he has deteriorated with time as well. His speech, writing skills, motivation and paranoia only seems to grow and grow - before the Mary Lee Walsh incident he may have been a lot more functional than he is now (although he still believed in Sonichu and the attraction sign so I guess things never looked that bright even then).

 

[SodomyRocket]

Male giggalo (juggalo giggalo?) for blind women who have lost their sense of smell.

he's still greasy and has a bent duck.

 

[That Chris Guy]

If it's lulz potential you're talking about, then he no doubt has limitless possibilities.

Anything else, 0.

 

[MrTroll]

Delaying diabetes and/or institutionalization for a few more years. Really, that's as good as it's gonna get for him. Depressing to contemplate, but it is what it is.

I think a big part of the reason why most of us still follow his antics, even after having long exhausted the initial entertainment value one gets from first encountering Chris, is that we just want to see how badly it all comes crashing down for him in the end.

 

[Kamen Rider Black RX]

Chris' maximum potential is precisely equal to the amount of effort other people are willing to put into doing things for him.

I guess that is kind of what I was getting at.

He definitely never was a huge academic success. But by graduating from high-school and getting an associates degree, he showed that he is able to read, write an understandable sentence, and do basic sums.

And he is definitely very lazy. But IMHO his academic "achievements" show that if he gets pointed in a direction, and convinced that he has to, he can achieve at a level that is within shouting distance of average.

This should have been enough that he could lead a life that is not entirely wasted. I agree that he couldn't do it on his own.

I sincerely doubt his high school years had much to do with any "direction." As I've said before, what likely happened is when Borb tried to sue the elementary school for disciplining their autistic son, this left a warning on his permanent record. His high school took note of this and passed him rather than have to deal with Borb. I guess they only disciplined him when his actions caused harm to other students, like the incident where he was moved to the short bus. They were more than content to let the idiot sleep in class and read Goosebumps.

 

[Dork Of Ages]

Chris' maximum potential is precisely equal to the amount of effort other people are willing to put into doing things for him.

I guess that is kind of what I was getting at.

He definitely never was a huge academic success. But by graduating from high-school and getting an associates degree, he showed that he is able to read, write an understandable sentence, and do basic sums.

And he is definitely very lazy. But IMHO his academic "achievements" show that if he gets pointed in a direction, and convinced that he has to, he can achieve at a level that is within shouting distance of average.

This should have been enough that he could lead a life that is not entirely wasted. I agree that he couldn't do it on his own.

I sincerely doubt his high school years had much to do with any "direction." As I've said before, what likely happened is when Borb tried to sue the elementary school for disciplining their autistic son, this left a warning on his permanent record. His high school took note of this and passed him rather than have to deal with Borb. I guess they only disciplined him when his actions caused harm to other students, like the incident where he was moved to the short bus. They were more than content to let the idiot sleep in class and read Goosebumps.

I guess the Greene County conspiracy was partially true?

 

[CatParty]

Male giggalo (juggalo giggalo?) for blind women who have lost their sense of smell.

he's still greasy and has a bent duck.

It's bigger than previously photographed and no longer bent.

He's greasy though.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Born in a perfectly nurturing environment that catered to the needs of an autistic child but did not coddle him into submission, he could have been somewhat normal. I do think that along with his autism, he has below normal intelligence, which would always be a problem. But he could certainly have been a happy and productive member of society. He's broken beyond all hope now. We're just watching the train plunge down the mountain at this point.

 

[Globe]

Male giggalo (juggalo giggalo?) for blind women who have lost their sense of smell.

And their sense of hearing. And their sense of touch, assuming it'll be sensitive to the film of grease, sweat and fail that his body is permanently laminated in.
*EDIT* Oh, and assuming they don't mind being penetrated by what equates to a tiny, fleshy boomerang.

 

[GFYS]

Someone would have had to have authority over him, to force him to work long enough for it to become part of his routine. Once something becomes part of his routine, I think he'll fall into the groove... Possibly even become fanatical about it. Frankly, I think Chris could be trained like a dog, as long as someone has authority over him.

The big problem was; by the time he was being forced to seek employment, Chris was already legally an adult, and Bob was probably exhausted. It seemed Bob getting Chris the tugboat was his final effort, before he gave up and sought a quiet place to curl up and die. This was right when Chris was at his most defiant, as well, and nobody would be willing to deal with that unless it was they were very charitable or it was their job to do so. From this point on, Chris' unwillingness to work is pretty much insurmountable. Only a court of law can force him to work, now. Barb might have that authority, using the house and maternal position as leverage, but I can actually see him defying her on this. She'd probably be sated with "I'm workin' on it," over and over. Moot point, though, because I don't see Barb wanting Chris to work.

Give where we're at, I think the best of Chris' days are behind him. His peak was when he could behave himself for a few hours, at PVCC. Eventually, maaaaybe he can subsist a few months - maybe even a few years - before striving to be a decent prison inmate. If he doesn't eventually wind up in the revolving door of the prison system, I think it'd be a miracle if he doesn't wind up dying of illness or exposure due to his own obstinance or stupidity within 3 years of Barb's passing. I sincerely believe this, 100%.

 

[SodomyRocket]

Male giggalo (juggalo giggalo?) for blind women who have lost their sense of smell.

he's still greasy and has a bent duck.

It's bigger than previously photographed and no longer bent.

He's greasy though.

that cuz he has a tumor on his duck and is too to know what a tumor is.

 

[Pikonic]

I think this question should be "What was Chris's maximum potential.

I think he could have gotten an job using CADD, had he actually applied himself and learned to take some critism. But no, Barb babied him too much and refused to get his mental problems checked.

Some say Anna is the biggest troll, some say Chris, maybe it's Barb (though unintentionally)

 

[milkshark]

It's simple:

- become a guest on exploitation media like Stern or Springer
- make content for YouTube and earn ad revenue
- do a comic that isn't derivative, like maybe just about his life (sans Sonic recolors) and utilize his built In fandase
- quit crying and enjoy life, it's not so bad

 

[DykesDykesChina]

It's simple:

- become a guest on exploitation media like Stern or Springer
- make content for YouTube and earn ad revenue
- do a comic that isn't derivative, like maybe just about his life (sans Sonic recolors) and utilize his built In fandase
- quit crying and enjoy life, it's not so bad

I like this... but unfortunately Chris is too stupid and deluded to do something like that.

 

[Zim]

If we use the equation of mass x acceleration of gravity (9.8ms squared)x height = potential energy , we can actually figure out exactly what potential he's capable of in his current life. Of course there's two versions of this because what Chris says he weighs and what he actually weighs are possibly two different things.

Anyway let's say he weighs what he says he does, 212lbs(97kg), and is 5'10" (1.7m). Using that, his potential is 1616.02 joules. If we go by about how much most of us think he actually weighs in estimation, 260bls(118kg), then his potential is 1965.88 joules. These numbers may be off slightly depending on how many extra pounds of he happens to be wearing at any given moment.

Sadly, seeing how he's extremely dumb, lazy, and mostly lumps around we may never know if he can live up to his potential no matter what he weighs.

Also, Math!

 

[Christ-Chan]

He's broken beyond all hope now. We're just watching the train plunge down the mountain at this point.

I've actually been thinking about that lately. I would agree, but I did catch a very interesting documentary called Child of Rage recently, and the gist of it is a girl who was physically and sexually abused by her father at the age of one developed severe psychopathic tendencies at a later age, including a desire to actually murder her family (she hid a set of knives in her room, but the parents locked her door every night out of fear, so she could never carry it out) at the age of five or six. She also strangled baby birds to death for fun and molested her adoptive brother.

Anyway, my point is she entered intense psychological treatment and actually made a very big turnaround, even breaking into tears as she remembered her past actions and feelings, now being able to identify where they came from. She was very young when this happened (even though Chris is closer to a 6-year-old girl than a 30-year-old man ) but it makes me wonder how much a person could change with the right help. The abuse she went through was almost inconceivably horrible and her state of mind was a lot worse than Chris' is, so it made me think. Probably impossible, but just maybe.

And, yeah, I know Chris would never accept help and all that, but the thread is about his potential, hypothetical or not.

 

[milkshark]

He's broken beyond all hope now. We're just watching the train plunge down the mountain at this point.

I've actually been thinking about that lately. I would agree, but I did catch a very interesting documentary called Child of Rage recently, and the gist of it is a girl who was physically and sexually abused by her father at the age of one developed severe psychopathic tendencies at a later age, including a desire to actually murder her family (she hid a set of knives in her room, but the parents locked her door every night out of fear, so she could never carry it out) at the age of five or six. She also strangled baby birds to death for fun and molested her adoptive brother.

Anyway, my point is she entered intense psychological treatment and actually made a very big turnaround, even breaking into tears as she remembered her past actions and feelings, now being able to identify where they came from. She was very young when this happened (even though Chris is closer to a 6-year-old girl than a 30-year-old man ) but it makes me wonder how much a person could change with the right help. The abuse she went through was almost inconceivably horrible and her state of mind was a lot worse than Chris' is, so it made me think. Probably impossible, but just maybe.

And, yeah, I know Chris would never accept help and all that, but the thread is about his potential, hypothetical or not.

I think the group home scenario would help with that, and I do think Chris could make a great turnaround with the right authority over him. He needs to come to terms with the fact that his lifestyle is unsustainable, and part of that is accepting that his mother does in fact not know best. He's driving old cars until they break down and moving on to the next one in the yard. He's spending most of his money on processed food that makes him fat, weak, irritable, greasy and shit his pants. He lives in a trash heap that doubles as an animal toilet. He is usually sad, angry, spiteful, resentful, and unfriendly despite having as little outside stress in his life as humanly possible. Furthermore he has spent most of the last few years ostracizing himself from his local community, becoming unwelcome at nearly every single place he chooses to go whether it's church, the store, or a local hobby shop.

Chris has to realize that Barb is his greatest troll. I mean, she made him after all.