What is it about Reddit's userbase that makes them so insufferable? - "Edit: Thanks for the upvotes and the gold!"

Reddit promotes the creation of hugboxes where no dissent is allowed, so is no surprise that their userbase is elitist and self-centered
This. One of the side-effects of echochambers is that you become convinced you are VERY RIGHT and being right in an echochamber is directly tied to status. Virtue is predicated on how hard you toe the line, "I'm awesome because I'm right and I'm right because I'm awesome."
 
I strongly prefer Facebook over reddit any day. Your Facebook group postings seem to get more reactions and comments than reddit. Reddit seems kind of slow compared to Facebook. Reddit reminds me of a hybrid cross between the chan boards minus the image board part, Facebook the up and down vote part, and a web forum for the karma part. People seem nicer on Facebook because you can see who left what reaction. Nobody wants to seem like a jerk. It is so easy to give down votes on reddit because it is not directly linked back to you like an angry reaction on Facebook.

Here is an example. My profession is small and closed knit. Since I am a new graduate n00b, I enjoy learning more about my vocation and stories from veterans. On the reddit sub, I asked about interview advice to see what their opinions were. I got upvotes and a couple comments. I asked a much more serious question about job offer advice . Again upvotes and a couple comments. I then posted on a professional Facebook group about my certification exam experience and my scores using the exam simulator yesterday. I got flooded with comments and reactions. I don’t give a flying fuck if Facebook is for old people. Facebook is infinitely better than reddit.
 
I strongly prefer Facebook over reddit any day. Your Facebook group postings seem to get more reactions and comments than reddit. Reddit seems kind of slow compared to Facebook. Reddit reminds me of a hybrid cross between the chan boards minus the image board part, Facebook the up and down vote part, and a web forum for the karma part. People seem nicer on Facebook because you can see who left what reaction. Nobody wants to seem like a jerk. It is so easy to give down votes on reddit because it is not directly linked back to you like an angry reaction on Facebook.

Here is an example. My profession is small and closed knit. Since I am a new graduate n00b, I enjoy learning more about my vocation and stories from veterans. On the reddit sub, I asked about interview advice to see what their opinions were. I got upvotes and a couple comments. I asked a much more serious question about job offer advice . Again upvotes and a couple comments. I then posted on a professional Facebook group about my certification exam experience and my scores using the exam simulator yesterday. I got flooded with comments and reactions. I don’t give a flying fuck if Facebook is for old people. Facebook is infinitely better than reddit.
In theory, anonymous down or upvoting should let people be more honest, but since Reddit doesn't have the same volume of traffic as other sites, a handful of people can downvote everything in the 95% of the site that is a ghost town, and there's no counterbalance. It's just everything getting ignored or downvoted, which doesn't look very friendly.
 
I think it's the format. Being able to downvote someone to the point where there comment isn't seen sets a bad precedent. Also the subreddit thing kinda promotes people becoming mods of subreddits and banning all dissent or people they don't like from being able to speak. It's like the one place I can think of on the top of my head that's more of a hivemind circlejerk than Weeb Wars.

It probably doesn't help that having such an authoritarian censor-prone set-up is probably what drew in all the SJW politics and liberal bullshit. Unless you are making the most limp-dicked, half-assed defense of conservative values on anything except for a subreddit dedicated to them, expect screeching, having your post downvoted to the point that no one is going to see, your post possibly deleted for hate-speech by an overzealous mod with a chip on his shoulder, or even possibly Shadow Banned. In case you aren't aware, they can shadow-ban you on Reddit so that you can post and do everything as normal, EXCEPT no one can actually see your posts.
They just really, really don't like people having dissenting opinions at all. Kinda like Weeb Wars.


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I made a post on Reddit recently asking about whether I should try to get back into a certain hobby. In the post, I made a reference to having gotten out of because I didn't get along with the people there.

Then, this one dude made a snide remark about me having an attitude problem because of that. Keep in mind, I didn't say a word about what it was, I just said that I had liked it but didn't get along with the people there. As it happened, some of the people in the club were real pissy towards me.

I then tried to explain it more to him, but they just dogpiled me accusing me of being the problem.

So that's how things go on Reddit, I guess. You're automatically shit and if you have a problem with somebody it's your fault.

I'm just venting.

Because upboats create circlejerks and incentive people to only post rehashed content. Why bother coming up with anything original if it might not get attention or even disliked when you can post what everybody already knows they like and get thousands of good boy points?

I saw this play out on a political forum I was part of ages ago. Now, they'd always had a like system, it's just that over time, the community seemed to get to caring more and more about that. I guess the problem was that they changed it up so that you could see somebody's total likes instead of just the ones on that post. The whole place turned into an insufferable circlejerk, especially since you needed a certain amount of likes to do certain things.
 
The only good subreddits are the jokey ones, like r/outside (a subreddit where people talk about real life as if it were an MMORPG) or r/hearthstonecirclejerk (a subreddit for mostly low-effort shitposting about Hearthstone). Some subreddits with smaller communities might qualify, like the ones for somewhat obscure games, hobbies, activities, etc., but they too can fall into the circlejerk hell, just because they're so tightly knit. Depends on whether the userbase is elitist enough to shoo away the newcomers or not.
 
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Some subreddits with smaller communities might qualify, like the ones for somewhat obscure games, hobbies, activities, etc., but they too can fall into the circlejerk hell, just because they're so tightly knit. Depends on whether the userbase is elitist enough to shoo away the newcomers or not.

The common advice I've heard with participating on Reddit is to just seek out the smaller subs, but that doesn't exactly work so well. Reddit took over the vast swaths of smaller phpbb boards for niche communities, but still operates as one whole site. Say one politically incorrect thing on your super autistic, insular, tiny sub about collecting Mongolian throat singing albums, and someone from r/politics will be right over to belittle you and snidely explain how your thoughts are fundamentally wrong and how awful you are as a person. You're also still bound by the long arm of the ever-changing law, regardless of whether or not it fits with your sub. Reddit is truly a pinko's paradise.

Reddit also has a certain, unparalleled smugness that just makes them extra contemptible. Their cute smiling mascot, their official statements that talk it up as the most empathetic place online, and the admin's insistence that they put free speech first. Then you join, you post something that the community doesn't approve of, you get downvoted, you get insulted, and then the guy who insulted you gets a swath of upvotes, and you can't reply because you have to wait ten minutes between posts because the karma system disallows it if you go into the negative.

Oh, but karma doesn't matter, right? Well, it's a number that ranks everyone's posts, giving an illusion of quality and popularity, that you can't opt out of. This leads to all sorts of mental fuckery. Seeing a high effort, well thought out post you made getting only three points, while posting "STICK IT IN HER POOPER | MR. COOPER" gets 2,300 points because it's a Zero Punctuation reference kinda gives you a "why bother?" sense. And then there's the thing where it's disheartening to see one of your genuine posts sitting at -1, but funny if it pissed off enough people to hit -100. One downvote is a tragedy, a hundred is a statistic. The site could be vastly improved if they took out the downvote mechanic, as quality content will still rise to the top and bad content will be ignored, and most social media sites don't use downvotes - or at least, don't reflect them as prominently as Reddit does.

Then there's the whole thing about how slow they are to ever ban bad subs, and the bizarre decisions made by the staff. Remember in the early 2010s when they banned r/fatpeoplehate, but not r/coontown, leaving Coontown active for months afterwards? And how long r/jailbait and r/niggers lasted? Not to mention how there's just no sizeable sub where people can even-handedly debate politics, leading to extreme sides that fervently hate each other, like r/the_donald vs. r/chapotraphouse... and r/worldnews... and r/politics... and so on, and so forth.

Reddit is a horribly divisive place that brings out the worst in people by design, and we all have to use it because of it monopolizing so much of the internet. Reddit's best used as a tool, to go ask a question about some niche subject that you can't find by searching. It's like having a genie in a lamp, but the genie is a methhead feminist piece of shit as a person who's ready to argue at moment's notice and draw you into a time-wasting debate because you said the wrong thing. Hell, I've had better debates on YouTube comments. Just ask for what you need, get it, and get out. Same deal if you're a creator, you more or less have to post your thing there to get any sort of traction, because the YouTube algorithm sure as hell isn't gonna share it. And try not to pay attention to how your original content you made and posted got 30 upvotes, and then the jackass who reposted it a week later with a more sensational headline got 3,000.

One more thing: it seems like a lot of internet terms that come out of Reddit are painfully cringeworthy. Lots of SFW subs there have the suffix "porn", and they're just.. pictures of nice things.

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I do love seeing some nicely run cables, but, just... do you guys jack off to well-designed cable management? No? Then don't call them porn. It's incredibly autistic.
 
I think it's really hard to say, actually. Most of the negative qualities that have been mentioned by users already in the thread don't affect every subreddit.

I've found that reddit has a higher concentration of "anti-wrongthink" (not necessarily political wrongthink) users than other forums and similar sites. I like polite people and civilized discussion both online and in person, but it seems that reddit also has a higher concentration of Nice Guys
 
Mods who take over several communities, install their friends and followers as fellow mods and turn it into their personal echo chamber. The karma system only encourages censorship and repetitive posts of popular topics and comments. The illusion of praise and popularity turns people into idiots.
 
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