What is Objective Morality? The Relationship Between Morality and God.

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If we say objective morality exists, we surely mean by it that some things are moral or immoral (good or bad) independent of any other variables. That would include time and space. Which would make objective morality either god, or proceeding in eternity past from God.

A government or authority cannot produce objective morals because it cannot exist outside any variables. It can recognise it though, but may not have a basis to appeal to it (justify it) as being objective unless it can appeal to the Divine. Which is what the Declaration of Independence does to imbue certain unalienable rights.

The theist's argument is that the recognition of the existence of objective morality is evidence that something preceded the existence of variables.

This would imply if man can recognize objective morality, that the Source of this morality has revealed it or "coded" it into creation.

The Bible teaches that objective morality (the righteousness of God) is naturally revealed to man (Ecc 7:29, Rom 1:19) but was expressly revealed in God's Law and Prophets, but ultimately manifest in the person of Christ (Romans 3:21-22).
 
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Without objective morality, man defaults to making himself the king of his own world. He often doesn't consciously realize this, such as seeking external justification for his own self-interested opinions. It is our natural tendency to justify ourselves and resist anything that takes us out of our comfort zone.

We need an external standard that doesn't care about our excuses, or else we'll never better ourselves and reach our true potential.
 
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Without objective morality, man defaults to making himself the king of his own world. He often doesn't consciously realize this, such as seeking external justification for his own self-interested opinions. It is our natural tendency to justify ourselves and resist anything that takes us out of our comfort zone.

We need an external standard that doesn't care about our excuses, or else we'll never better ourselves and reach our true potential.
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Brightstar777 said:
If we say objective morality exists, we surely mean by it that some things are moral or immoral (good or bad) independent of any other variables. That would include time and space. Which would make objective morality either god, or proceeding in eternity past from God.

A government or authority cannot produce objective morals because it cannot exist outside any variables. It can recognise it though, but may not have a basis to appeal to it (justify it) as being objective unless it can appeal to the Divine. Which is what the Declaration of Independence does to imbue certain unalienable rights.

The theist's argument is that the recognition of the existence of objective morality is evidence that something preceded the existence of variables.

This would imply if man can recognize objective morality, that the Source of this morality has revealed it or "coded" it into creation.

The Bible teaches that objective morality (the righteousness of God) is naturally revealed to man (Ecc 7:29, Rom 1:19) but was expressly revealed in God's Law and Prophets, but ultimately manifest in the person of Christ (Romans 3:21-22).
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