What is the very best Linux Distro? - best to make a poll about that

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I love systemd.
Hey, I added these NFS mounts to /etc/fstab., could you mount them?
Mounts one on each reboot.
Hey, here's an NTP server in DHCP.
Ignores that, goes to *pool.ntp.org
Hey, here's a DNS server in DHCP
Ignores that, goes to the root nameservers.
Let's reboot.
"Waiting for user slice... 1 minute remaining."

Let's check the logs. Scratch that, let's read the documentation to figure out how to get journald to give me the stdout from that process startup it supposedly logged.

Why is journalctl not wrapping lines? There's a flag for that... screw it... journald | cat or journald | less.

A couple of those are distro setup problems, but all in all it's crap.
If it boots fast it should shut down fast.
If I want file systems mounted I'd like them to be mounted before I login.
If I want NTP to use my local NTP servers I shouldn't have to modify a configuration file or redirect UDP/123 on my firewall to an internal NTP server or hijack all of pool.ntp.org to my local NTP... provided resolved is using my internal DNS.

Oh, look, system installed a week ago:
$ timedatectl timesync-status
Server: 192.168.1.1 (2.debian.pool.ntp.org)
fuckers. At least the DNS hijack is working.

Sigh. Can I haz real OS plz?
 
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Can anyone suggest a distro that's even remotely based?
I think you misread the apt change. It now needs an additional switch instead of having a "Yes, do as I say!" prompt.

If you really need a based distro: Custom LFS with a million shell scripts that you write to fetch packages and compile/update them automatically. Alternatively, you can write a custom program in you favorite language to manage "packages" for a more modular experience. You could even use a premade package manager like pacman and set up your own repositories.
 
That's not the problem. The problem is Linus Fucking Sebastian sticking his nose into Debian. That cunt is EVERYWHERE.
Linus Sebastian using a shit Debian derivative and being severely retarded enough to cause UX changes doesn't impact regular usage enough to be too bad. Linux and its software could use a couple of UX changes anyway, and what's a better way to test the UX of components like the package manager than to watch a tard like Linus Tech Trash fuck it up enormously? The worst thing that LTT can realistically do to Debian is slightly lower the quality of Debian-related discussions from LTT fans that can't into computers.

Also, thinking projects are bad because of actions of people tangentially related to development is one of the things that has lead to Drew DeVault's retardation. A fate worse than death, is to think only in the Drew DeVault mindset.
 
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I personally prefer MX Linux, because it remains to be friendly with gamers and boomers providing of ease of use there's built-in scripts and useful quality-of-life utility tools(nvidia-installer for gamers, MX-PackageInstaller for boomers, chroot-rescue-scan for admins), despite being Debian based MX Linux doesn't use much SystemD in favor of traditional SysVinit(with a small amount of sysmd for apps depending on it) instead which is fast or faster than raw SystemD.
I use Gentoo on my gaming pc and other laptops, obviously some of you already know how to set up the kernel manually which is the real time killer at first, besides that Portage is pretty handy with the use-flags under the /etc/portage folder alowing individual package configurations while the system is still stable. Managed to run Counter Strike 2 on Gentoo with 300 to 650 fps sometimes the average is 500 which is very surprising unlike Windows doing dips behind my back with bloated background services.
 
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Can anyone suggest a distro that's even remotely based?
The problem is Linus Fucking Sebastian sticking his nose into Debian.
Then throw your PC away and live in a forest shack you fucking spastic. Linus didn't stick his nose into Debian, apt devs just added a failsafe so that complete retards like Linus won't fuck their OS up because someone fucked up the dependency chain because Linux devs live in a fucking bubble.

And there is no "based" distro, who the fuck are you even trying to kid? Given you're throwing this buzzword around, lemme ruin your love for Linux. Any distro you run will have components coded by troons. Linux kernel itself adapted Contributor Covenant CoC which is a troon's manifesto. Linux is pozzed to the core and if that's the single quality you care about in your software then throw your computer away because there is no "based" OS. Unless you want to daily drive TempleOS, in which case you're a bigger spastic than one can imagine.

There is no "based" OS. Windows is pozzed, macOS is pozzed, Linux is pozzed. If you're this much of a faggot that your OS HAS to perfectly align with your political ideas then cease to use technology altogether because that won't fucking happen.

Anyway.

Every single Linux distro is just an autistic slapfight of which package manager, desktop environment, fucking window server, and which init system to include in their super special flavor of the Linux soup. There is no good Linux distro, all of them are equally shit because the entire issue is in the fact that Linux distros and components are like this xkcd comic:
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A good example is the X11 vs Wayland slapfight. You have two competing standards for rendering windows, which is something that should be as fucking standardized as possible if you want your shit to gain wide adaptation. Or better yet, the fucking package managers. A massive sea of unstandardized bullshit that's incompatible with each other because fuck you I know better so I'm making my own.

And my favorite image representing the entire issue with Linux:
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In FOSS projects, there is no leadership, there is no guidance, there is no standardization, so it's all stuck in this autistic circle that never goes anywhere.
In corporate projects, such as Windows or macOS, there is a guidance of how the project should be developed and there is standardization of how the project should work.

This is the key issue with Linux. Linux devs refuse to acknowledge that they need to have everything standardized and streamlined so that everything is nice and smooth, and they simultaneously seethe that Windows still dominates the desktop market. But it's not Microsoft's fault, it's Linux dev's fault for failing to understand how a successful project should be made. So Linux remains this niche hobby rather than a real competitor to Windows.

tl;dr: There is no "best" Linux distro because they're all equally shit, it's a matter of choosing your poison and which specific issues you want to deal with.

There is also no best OS, there are only OS' that suite one's needs for the software suite they need to run, and each option has it's flaws one has to compensate for.

Personally, I remain on Windows, as the software suite that I use is Windows based, and I can tard wrangle Windows to my liking easier and faster than I can Linux. I wish that Linux would be a viable alternative for me, but as it stands right now it simply isn't and won't be for decades to come.
 
Do you have a single piece of evidence to back that up?

I have used both SysV snd systemd, and the latter is massively superior, more capable as well as much easier to use and understand. Just compare a systemd service file with the corresponding init script, to see just how much shorter and simpler the former is. Services can start up in parrallel. Services can be shut down without leaking resources, because of control groups. Services can be made userspecific without using root, which is a major pain when using sysvinit. Services can be easily configured to respond to events, such as plugging in hardware and such.

Systemd is just much, much better, which is why every relevant distro (except Android) uses it.
 
I have used both SysV snd systemd, and the latter is massively superior, more capable as well as much easier to use and understand. Just compare a systemd service file with the corresponding init script, to see just how much shorter and simpler the former is. Services can start up in parrallel. Services can be shut down without leaking resources, because of control groups. Services can be made userspecific without using root, which is a major pain when using sysvinit. Services can be easily configured to respond to events, such as plugging in hardware and such.

Systemd is just much, much better, which is why every relevant distro (except Android) uses it.
You are a dimwit for thinking systemd is the only option to sysv and you opinion is duly discarded.
 
The best distro is the one you get from https://distrochooser.de/
I got the same distro I currently use: void.

"There is also no best OS, there are only OS' that suite one's needs for the software suite they need to run, and each option has it's flaws one has to compensate for."
This is pretty much how it works, if anyone wants "the best distro" then build your own or even better build your own OS.
 
Everyone is debating systemd vs sysvinit, but how about:

X11 vs Wayland

or

apt vs pacman vs others?

After all, the init system is not the only component that a distro is made up of. And if we're gonna decide on which distro is the best, we should look into those too.
 
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Everyone is debating systemd vs sysvinit, but how about:

X11 vs Wayland

or

apt vs pacman vs others?

After all, the init system is not the only component that a distro is made up of. And if we're gonna decide on which distro is the best, we should look into those too.
Sure. Wayland best GUI backend, Nix best package manager. Easy, no debate required.
 
Linux casual that I am, I just like having Ubuntu repos available, and I like KDE, thus Kubuntu is it for me.
 
Unironically Mac, it isn't bugged like 99% of FOSS software under open source unix kernels. It works perfectly out of the box and then some more, just get a hackintosh.

From personal experience Arch Linux is literally the worst piece of fucking dogshit I've ever used. The voters are homogay. Maybe that's only on the GUI side of things and the retards here who even use Arch are permalocked to a command line or something. Can't say much about Mint, but if Ubuntu and Debian are sorta garbage and annoying to use, Mint'll be nothing short of mid.

Again literally and unironically use Hackintosh, fucking flawless system compared to GNU Linux.
 
Unironically Mac, it isn't bugged like 99% of FOSS software under open source unix kernels. It works perfectly out of the box and then some more, just get a hackintosh.

From personal experience Arch Linux is literally the worst piece of fucking dogshit I've ever used. The voters are homogay. Maybe that's only on the GUI side of things and the retards here who even use Arch are permalocked to a command line or something. Can't say much about Mint, but if Ubuntu and Debian are sorta garbage and annoying to use, Mint'll be nothing short of mid.

Again literally and unironically use Hackintosh, fucking flawless system compared to GNU Linux.
From what I'm seeing, Arch is good if you want to build a system tailored exactly to your hardware and needs. Which is why Valve used it for the Steam Deck, as they have a very specific use case and one, maybe two hardware configurations to support.
The tradeoff is that you need in-depth knowledge of Linux literally just to make it boot. I'm using Windows as my main OS and Debian for my server, and would probably just use Linux Mint if I switched to Linux. I'll try again to get Arch to boot as I'll probably get it working eventually.
But really, you don't use Arch if you want a computer to just work, you do it for the challenge. For the sheer exhilaration of conquering a difficult task
 
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