What is the worst thing about the left?

[TFT-A9]

I'm shocked no one mentioned pro-pedophile activism (e.x. NAMBLA, ILGA, Salon.com, Nathan Larson and other pedophiles).

That falls less under typical far-leftie bullshit and more under the all-consuming rot pervading society-at-large, the "New Left" and their seemingly open embrace of this shit is something I'm not technically against because I WANT them to put that albatross around their necks, that will be the one thing that rips them asunder if nothing else does because as it turns out most anybody with a functional frontal lobe will draw the fucking line HARD if they start making that part of the platform proper

 

[TitusOvid]

In addition to everything already noted in this thread they are absolutely miserable and joyless. When they are not trying to punish others they are usually whining about their myriad of issues.

 

[TFT-A9]

In addition to everything already noted in this thread they are absolutely miserable and joyless. When they are not trying to punish others they are usually whining about their myriad of issues.

I mean when you live with a mindset of "ETERNAL REVOLUTION, EVIL BIGOTS AND NAZIS EVERYWHERE, PURGE YOURSELF OF WRONGTHINK, CANNOT REST UNTIL WE REACH OUR PROMISED UTOPIA" it shouldn't be fucking surprising that you become a miserable shitcock that only has any value as vanguard/shocktroop/cannon fodder for your handlers

 

[TFT-A9]

Since I can't edit let me elaborate (and this is a nearly-universal thing so): Happy, content people are not particularly useful if you want to shake shit up a bit. Unhappy, angry, miserable people can be convinced to do a LOT of things most other people wouldn't even consider. This is why these would-be revolutionaries are such fucking miserable people, this is also why consoomerism is a thing - you are being convinced by any number of companies and so on during the course of a day that you CANNOT be truly happy until you BUY THING and if you BUY MORE THING you will be more happy. Your happiness and contentment has been taken away and everybody's trying to sell you an ersatz replacement for it - either through meaningless schlocky bullshit like Funko Pops and the latest capeshit franchise's newest cinematic excretion or through the promise "If you go burn down a thing I want burned down we will get that much closer to a world in which you can be happy".

It's all fucking bullshit, of course.

 

[Odnovo]

I've already commented, but I never gave my personal reasons for why I don't like the Left. All in all, it is pretty much just castles in the air; their political theories and philosophy isn't based on anything tangible and as such the house of cards would collapse in an instant when (not if) society reverts back to what I would term to be "natural law".

 

[Someone Awful]

That falls less under typical far-leftie bullshit and more under the all-consuming rot pervading society-at-large, the "New Left" and their seemingly open embrace of this shit is something I'm not technically against because I WANT them to put that albatross around their necks, that will be the one thing that rips them asunder if nothing else does because as it turns out most anybody with a functional frontal lobe will draw the fucking line HARD if they start making that part of the platform proper

But that's the problem, SJWs believe that the mass will never draw that line on what is acceptable. They believe that with long-term control of the government and all cultural institutions, they can push whatever they want, no matter how depraved, sick, or disgusting it is. Given how quickly culture has shifted left just in the last decade, it's not unreasonable why the most extreme pessimists think that. Pushing for acceptance of pedophilia, child marriage, and child rape are all part of them consolidating their power and believing that they, the SJWs, will always be in power. If given the chance, they will make pedophilia, child marriage, and even rape legal. They will also work to cancel anyone who criticize the push when the time comes to do so. Weren't there a bunch of headlines asskissing the abomination that is Cuties?

Hypocrisy and gaslighting are what keeps them mainstream. SJWs have no principles. The ideology cannot be defeated until as I said before, an equally powerful force that agrees with none of what they want rises up. But right now, we don't have that.

 

[TFT-A9]

But that's the problem, SJWs believe that the mass will never draw that line on what is acceptable. They believe that with long-term control of the government and all cultural institutions, they can push whatever they want, no matter how depraved, sick, or disgusting it is. Given how quickly culture has shifted left just in the last decade, it's not unreasonable why the most extreme pessimists think that. Pushing for acceptance of pedophilia, child marriage, and child rape are all part of them consolidating their power and believing that they, the SJWs, will always be in power. If given the chance, they will make pedophilia, child marriage, and even rape legal. They will also work to cancel anyone who criticize the push when the time comes to do so. Weren't there a bunch of headlines asskissing the abomination that is Cuties?

Hypocrisy and gaslighting are what keeps them mainstream. SJWs have no principles. The ideology cannot be defeated until as I said before, an equally powerful force that agrees with none of what they want rises up. But right now, we don't have that.

I mean, they push that particular boundary they're going to find themselves in a world of shit because people might not openly opine about their discomfort with things like Cuties but you better believe they know something's fucking wrong and they're not happy about it. You want trouble, you fuck with Mr. and Mrs. Milquetoast's kids and you'll see them turn into straight-up homicidal maniacs on your ass.

 

[Zarkov]

Their rampant hypocrisy. Claiming to be open-minded while at the same time methodically shutting down dissenting opinions. Proclaiming to be the defenders of the poor and the helpless when their leaders are filthy rich and the most vocal shit-flingers all have cushy office jobs or are jobless leeches happily swimming in daddy's money. There's also their posing as defenders of minorities when they're overwhelmingly white.

 

[Governor Jeb Bush]

Their rampant hypocrisy. Claiming to be open-minded while at the same time methodically shutting down dissenting opinions. Proclaiming to be the defenders of the poor and the helpless when their leaders are filthy rich and the most vocal shit-flingers all have cushy office jobs or are jobless leeches happily swimming in daddy's money. There's also their posing as defenders of minorities when they're overwhelmingly white.

It's a hivemind on the left, so naturally they are hypocrites as their views are not 'true' to themselves basically....

 

[Meat Target]

I would not resent Leftists half as much as I do -hell, in my heart I wish I could agree with them- if they weren't such deliberate, bald-faced liars.

 

[BeboRefugee]

In their mission for social equality on every front, they've actively worked to avoid treating different demographics with any level of equality. Rhetorically, they can't bring themselves to advocate for better conditions. It has to be for the sake of X or Y marginalised group. College should be cheaper for everybody and yet the left are obsessed with pigeon-holing their advocacy so that black women are front and center, ensuring the foundational issue is never accurately confronted or resolved.

Their passion for a subject is, without exception, inversely proportionate to how much it meaningfully impacts the lives of people.

Transgender bathrooms and a gay cake will receive YEARS of commentary and coverage, but there's no such drive to prevent expensive wars, reduce the cost of living, encourage sustainable wage growth, reducing healthcare costs or ensure housing is affordable and in decent supply.

None of the issues listed above are ever confronted in a reasoned, incrementalist way. If they're mentioned at all it's via insane demands that'll never be enacted.

 

[ZeCommissar]

One massive problem I have with the left is that they seem to do the exact same thing most white supremacists do in that they place hierarchy in the world to be white vs everyone else regardless of race. American leftists like most Americans also completely ignore European nationality and just go "white".

The left goes "white people are over privileged and all non-whites POCs must band together to stop it". They ignore the blatant and sometimes deadly racism between "POC" groups like Japanese/Koreans, and Tutsi/Hutus for example. There is also another alternate path they go like most WNs where instead of whites vs everyone else they put other non-white races in a hierarchy like "whites are most privileged, Asians are more privileged and blacks/natives are the lowest"

For people constantly preaching about equality they sure do love making sure people stayed divided and segregated.

 

[Darksy DePhil]

The left in %CURRENT_YEAR% only cares about IDENTITY, or more specifically, that you are part of an "oppressed" minority.
If you're white and poor. You should pull your bootstraps and get a job. If you're black and poor, you're a victim of a cruel evil society that hates minorities. If you're a straight cis white and people prejudice you for some reason, you should stop being a pussy and man up. If you're gay, trans, autistic, etc. being made fun of, then the people mocking you are bigots jealous of how "unique and special" you are.
To all leftists, every white person is a rich, smug, high class, first world snob that never faced any hardships in their entire life, and every person of a minority group is a invaluable asset with something important to contribute to a society. With a mindset like this, is it honestly a surprise that so many people on twitter add a bunch of shit like "nonby asexual BLM pronouns they/them" to their bios? How else could they be taken seriously by the left with it's massive victim complex?

One massive problem I have with the left is that they seem to do the exact same thing most white supremacists do in that they place hierarchy in the world to be white vs everyone else regardless of race. American leftists like most Americans also completely ignore European nationality completely and just go "white".

Honestly? Literally everything i hate about the right wing is either something aut-right idiots copied from the left, or some original issue with the right wing that leftists carbon copied into their side with a "no u" twist to fit their agenda.

 

[TFT-A9]

Honestly? Literally everything i hate about the right wing is either something aut-right idiots copied from the left, or some original issue with the right wing that leftists carbon copied into their side with a "no u" twist to fit their agenda.

Nihil sub sole novum. If one side perceives the other as being successful in some aspect (whatever that may be) they're going to crib some notes.

 

[Gensou Hadou]

"The emperor is naked!"
"You have been banned from all interpersonal contact, interaction, and payment processors. Reason: Spreading conspiracy theories and being a racist alt-right Nazi. Information about the emperor's new clothes can be found at the CDC website."

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

What passes for "the left" in the West is anything but, it's a neoliberal virtue signalling circle jerk that's massively in support of a hypercapitalist status quo and a postmodernist philosophy that goes completely against dialectical materialism. I'm an old fashioned communist and I'm sick of the liberals co-opting the language and symbols of leftism while promoting the antithesis of it. There's absolutely no analysis of class or workers' rights any more; if anything they're anti-worker because they want bosses to have the power to fire employees at will if some busybody sees they said something they don't like on Twitter once and goes whining to their manager. There isn't even any focus on collective interests, it's all about the individual and not about what groups have in common or uniting around that cause. They'll even promote prostitution as some wonderful liberating industry because one or two people got rich off it and ignore the millions of victims. And that then leads to "individual truth" and "personal truth" that prizes someone's subjective perceptions and "identity" (whatever that means) over actual objective reality. If these people ever read any Marx or Engels, they'd be calling for them to be cancelled and their books burned.
Chinese communists have words for these people, "baizuo" and "shengmubiao" that are pretty much equivalent to "SJW" or "virtue signaller", but explicitly from the actual Left, so they can't be so easily dismissed as just right-wing smears.
When was the last time you heard any of these people talk about trade unions, safe working conditions, fair wages, co-operative ownership of corporations, access to clean water, housing, cost of living, parenting (either staying at home or getting childcare, both are difficult for working class people), school funding, access to education, unemployment, disability or any issues actually affecting the working classes? These are issues that the old Left offers answers to and engages with, but this shower of liberals don't address them at all, and when we do, they chide us for using the wrong pronouns or not using their latest woke shibboleths to shut us up - and people who have jobs or are busy looking after families aren't on Twitter all the time or going to their seminars to keep up with the latest language, so naturally this will exclude the working class (as well as people from cultures that don't do this bullshit). Look at the DSA videos to see how effective that can be, the speaker kept getting shouted down about petty shit like pronouns or clapping, she barely got to speak and nothing got done. It's a shame and I hope when (not if) the backlash comes against it it'll not just be left to the conservative Right to deal with it all, we need to root it out from the Left and make it clear it's nothing to do with us and we can actually address these issues.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I'm shocked no one mentioned pro-pedophile activism (e.x. NAMBLA, ILGA, Salon.com, Nathan Larson and other pedophiles).

It's covered by "it's gay" to be honest.

The first stonewall riots were led by pro-pedophiles such as harry hays.
LGBTQ plays and movies often have pedophilia glorified like vagina monologues "If it was rape, it was a good rape" of the underage girl with an adult woman.
Half of pedophile perpetrators are homosexual, whereas only 1-2% of the population is homosexual.

I suppose not many people have really dived in the research themselves and it's career ending in a lot of cases to talk honestly about this. The connections are out there and easily made with a little bit of research.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

My thoughts are being left leaning myself.

The modern left has been subverted by woke morons who are neglecting the role of looking after their own people to score fake diversity points with groups who are dangerous to society (e.g Islamists) and classify everything based on racial or gender lines. Its bullshit to be honest.

In my country there are some really deprived white neighbourhoods, kids with no real futures, terrible housing and drugs everywhere but the modern left over here just ignores this and harps on about Palestine or how someone is a terrible person because their great great great great uncle was tenuously involved in the slave trade or something

South Africa?

 

[bluegenius8585]

South Africa?

Nah

 

[The Curmudgeon]

In their mission for social equality on every front, they've actively worked to avoid treating different demographics with any level of equality. Rhetorically, they can't bring themselves to advocate for better conditions. It has to be for the sake of X or Y marginalised group. College should be cheaper for everybody and yet the left are obsessed with pigeon-holing their advocacy so that black women are front and center, ensuring the foundational issue is never accurately confronted or resolved.

Their passion for a subject is, without exception, inversely proportionate to how much it meaningfully impacts the lives of people.

Transgender bathrooms and a gay cake will receive YEARS of commentary and coverage, but there's no such drive to prevent expensive wars, reduce the cost of living, encourage sustainable wage growth, reducing healthcare costs or ensure housing is affordable and in decent supply.

None of the issues listed above are ever confronted in a reasoned, incrementalist way. If they're mentioned at all it's via insane demands that'll never be enacted.

One massive problem I have with the left is that they seem to do the exact same thing most white supremacists do in that they place hierarchy in the world to be white vs everyone else regardless of race. American leftists like most Americans also completely ignore European nationality and just go "white".

The left goes "white people are over privileged and all non-whites POCs must band together to stop it". They ignore the blatant and sometimes deadly racism between "POC" groups like Japanese/Koreans, and Tutsi/Hutus for example. There is also another alternate path they go like most WNs where instead of whites vs everyone else they put other non-white races in a hierarchy like "whites are most privileged, Asians are more privileged and blacks/natives are the lowest"

For people constantly preaching about equality they sure do love making sure people stayed divided and segregated.

I've noticed that too. When it comes to structural issues like the ones you guys mention, the leftists don't care. Maybe at one point in history they did, but these days it's obvious they don't.

Whenever I hear leftists whining about the plight of women, minorities, or immigrants, I always wonder if what they're doing genuinely benefits them. For example: Is the quality of life for black people really improved through top-down censorship and representation? If it is, then why is that black people still live in squalor and misery despite all the cultural pandering aimed at them? Wouldn't blacks be better if off if they were encouraged to assimilate and join whites in the same struggles that would clearly help them? Does it ever occur to these white leftists that not all problems in the black community are caused by whites? Based on their logic, blacks are perpetual victims with no moral agency or the capacity to think.

None of that seems to cross their minds. Honestly, I hold the minorities partially responsible for this too. They go along with this tribalism even if they're aware that getting along with white people would help them more than this perpetual tit-for-tat race war bullshit. Worse yet, white leftists never hold minorities to the same standards. They could care less about black and brown people being openly racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. White guilt is evil and one of the greatest moral blinders in history.