What is the worst thing about the right?

[ToroidalBoat]

Remember that one Ben Garrison cartoon called "March of Tyranny"?

 

[Cyclonus]

They're fucking hypocrites. They go on and on about the evils of big government but pass draconian laws if it suits them. Theyre against employee rights and support employers right to fire anyone for any reason they chose, until employers insist their employees get vaccinated. Theyre against government regulation of the internet and net neutrality, until they perceive social networks are biased against conservatives and start talking about laws forcing social networks to host Conservative opinions which violates their freedom of speech. If you disagree then I trust you'll have no problem with me hosting my next anti gun rally in your back yard. If you don't agree to that then you're censoring me, you fucking commie.

 

[get_ur_gamon]

Have you considered if ideological purity lends the left strength?

Literally what? The constant demand for purity in leftist spaces leads to pointless infighting within leftist parties, as well as fracturing. This is what keeps the UK Labour party out of power, the struggle between center left and far left.

The worst thing about the right is that it's a cuck to the left and is a controlled opposition by design. There is no right wing to speak of.

Except in Eastern Europe, or the UK, or the middle east, Japan, Australia ect. I get it, you're American, and seeing the US and Canada as left wing makes you think that the right is on the decline, even though it is constantly gaining traction across the rest of the world.

What makes the Western right suck is that they constantly pitch their tents on the least popular sides of key issues. Most westerners think abortion should be legal. Most westerners think weed should be legalised. Privatisation fucking sucks, and yet the right still inists private prisons are the way to go and not a totally fucked up conflict of intrest.

If the right just listened to what most people want, rather than trying to make the will of special intrests more palatable to the average Joe they would have a great chance.

 

[Shoggoth]

Literally what? The constant demand for purity in leftist spaces leads to pointless infighting within leftist parties, as well as fracturing. This is what keeps the UK Labour party out of power, the struggle between center left and far left.

Name one conservative thing the Tories have done in the past 20 years.
Those cucks are just implementing Labor's policy, why would they need to be in power?

I get it, you're American

no

What makes the Western right suck is that they constantly pitch their tents on the least popular sides of key issues. Most westerners think abortion should be legal. Most westerners think weed should be legalised. Privatisation fucking sucks, and yet the right still inists private prisons are the way to go and not a totally fucked up conflict of intrest.

If the right just listened to what most people want, rather than trying to make the will of special intrests more palatable to the average Joe they would have a great chance.

a. what a fucking retard. Yes, the people want mass immigration and trans story hour
b. what people want has fucking zero impact. It's all top down by unelected elites. the mythical "people" will do whatever you tell them

 

[Dona Morte]

The politicians?
Being a pussy.
The people.
Being caught in interviews. LEARN NOT TO TALK TO MEDIA. You make the rest of us look like inbred fucks.

 

[get_ur_gamon]

Name one conservative thing the Tories have done in the past 20 years.

"if you only knew how ridiculous that statement is, you wouldn’t have said it"
The grinding austerity since they took power in 2010? Massively cutting public spending (before covid forced the hand of every governemnt in the world to spend more). Privatisation of UK post office amounst other services. Cutting free school meals, foreign aid, oh and FUCKING LEAVING THE EU + curbing immigration. Tax cuts for upper and middle class too.

Those cucks are just implementing Labor's policy, why would they need to be in power?

Labour has coherent policies?
All jokes aside, they really don't. Labour wants an expansion of the welfare state, plus free university and higher taxes on the upper and middle class. None of those got done under Tory power.

a. what a fucking retard. Yes, the people want mass immigration and trans story hour

You got me. No I don't believe that the right wing parties literally chooses the most unpopular sides of debates when coming up with a manifesto. But for some key issues they stick to positions that most people have moved on from. Most women are pro choice. If you want to win the female vote, maybe appeal to them. The UK tories do and they have a huge dominance of the upper and middle classes. Republican don't.

Of course people dont want mass immigration and tranny story time. But, imagine how popular rightoids would be amounst female voters if they pledged to keep trannies out of their spaces BUT also pledged to not steamroll abortion rights. Why not just abandon the pro life arguement? What does the right stand to gain from pissing off female voters.

b. what people want has fucking zero impact. It's all top down by unelected elites. the mythical "people" will do whatever you tell them

Oh damn, like when the Brexit vote failed because the political elite and every mainstream media outlet campaigned for Remain? Or when Donald Trump lost to Clinton when the elites sided with her? Oh no wait!

Lighten up doomer. Public opinion isn't soley dicated by the elite, and people rebel agaisnt them more than you think. The is a massive rise in right wing parties across Europe, despite the EU and political elites wringing their hands.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

the majority are too retarded to realise that in a real 4th reich they’d be the first to go

 

[Rapechu]

the majority are too retarded to realise that in a real 4th reich they’d be the first to go

Who would be the first to go? The conservatives and liberals and social democrats? No, these people ordered soldiers to shoot at Hitler, but when Hitler took power he never persecuted them. Some of these he incorporated into his government and promoted (including the judge who sentenced him to prison) and others he retired with generous state pensions though he had no obligations to do so. The jews? Jews who served in the military were called honorary Aryans and were not arrested. The old? The old jews? Hitler built them a retirement town called Thereisenstadt which was self-administrated by its occupants and had hundreds of thousands of jews unfit for labor. The communists? Many of them became National Socialist party members.

So who is the first to go, I genuinely want to know.

 

[WinchesterWhiskey]

Alright, 2A storytime.

Tl;dr The right is constantly splintered and screws people over who could have otherwise helped them.

One of my friends is a red flag victim who was actually in a Truth About Guns/Ammoland article(You could probably dig into him but he's pretty innocuous) and did some work with the Second Amendment Foundation. I'm going to keep things fairly short, but his whole thing was trying to get younger folks into firearms through video games. He was frustrated during this discussion panel because the boomers that he was discussing this with kept asking him things to the effect of "Why do you want to get kids to shoot up school through video games?"

Frustrated, he ended up walking out but came back to deal with a hostile crowd of old people. While filling out some paperwork, an old geriatric boomer lady came up to him and thought she could slip him up. She walked up and quite literally asked him, "Aren't you afraid that the youth are going to join ISIS from the video games they play?"

My friend, unsure of how to really respond, kinda just has a mental BSOD. She doubles down and says, "Aren't most gamers 30-something year olds who live in their parents basements?"

He asks her, "Is every black man that walks into a convenience store a felon looking to rob the place?" She calls him a nigger and walks off and it was more or less the last time that this person really wanted to do the 2A activism thing.

Tl;dr The right has no sense of gatekeeping, sanity, or even purpose and it shows within the firearm community.

 

[Kyria the Great]

It's the weakness shown towards any pushback towards pushback from insane laws that more radical left wing types want to pass like CRT in schools. The lack of purpose towards any institution of higher power like academia, media, tech, and finance has severely hurt it and clearly shows where true power comes from in the united states. If the right was really wanting to fight against all this destruction of the United states, it would wage a near total war against the Institutions of soft power in a near total sense as they've proven too dangerous to allow them any degree of autonomy. Rootless cosmopolitanism should be the true focus the American right wing should fight against as if they don't it will lead towards tyranny and the end of any meaningful freedom in it.

 

[The Lawgiver]

The right has the same problem causing assholes as the left in a slightly different flavor and people that forgot about this despite living through the 90s and 2000s deserve the uniparty oligarchy hell we're living in more than anyone else.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

The right has the same problem causing assholes as the left in a slightly different flavor and people that forgot about this despite living through the 90s and 2000s deserve the uniparty oligarchy hell we're living in more than anyone else.

I can never agree with people who bring up the religious right. The worst they did was literally fund things they wanted gone. Hate Harry Potter? Buy the books and burn them (Also Yugioh cards, Pokemon games, etc.). Wait what that gives the creator money? Wow. What they tell me to burn in Hell, and that I'm a degenerate? Oh noes, what ever will I do other than become an insane leftist and start sacrificing children and doing satanic rituals.

Were they obnoxious? Sure. Did they piss people off, yeah. Outside of Jack Thompson who didn't even accomplish much other than a good chuckle they were weak sauce.

It's not just a different flavor, we are talking about the left who literally think nothing is wrong with trying to genoicde different groups under the UN definition of the Genocide council, brainwashing children and sexualizing them, and literally ruining everyone's lives with content they hate. They want their form of censorship punishable by death and side with groups willing to put you to death over it.

Now, yes they have led to the uniparty but here's something a lot of people always miss when bringing up the overzealous religious right, many of them that were part of the religious right or coincidentally on the left now. The authoritarian dick heads were always "leftist sheep" or prone to grift. They just used the religious right because it was in power at the time. The problem is like a bunch of kids with teenage angst people who were told to burn in Hell would rather destroy their country, then just grow up and get over it or just move away from religion instead of going full force into turning their kids into troons because that's sticking it to them.

Also let's not forget the violence. Killing over saying literally and I quote "All lives Matter."

The big mistake is people think Antifa and BLM are from the religious right. Antifa has nothing to do with the religious right at all, nor does BLM and yet the left is far more violent than they ever were. they're not just a different flavor, they don't even lead into each other. It'd be like if there were Pokemon fanatics pushing their games on everyone through public opinion and then rises right wing death squads to counter it. Completely different and unrelated to that kind of level of escalation.

Not to continue to beat the dead horse point, but too many make this same correlation causation fallacy. These grifters, child groomers, authoritarian dickheads were always waiting for their chance to shine, the religious right gave it to them, but it's because normies didn't react to them with a productive reaction instead went full 180 into literal immoral craziness. The religious right were stupid, but normies pettiness is what truly led to the uniparty.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I can never agree with people who bring up the religious right. The worst they did was literally fund things they wanted gone. Hate Harry Potter? Buy the books and burn them (Also Yugioh cards, Pokemon games, etc.). Wait what that gives the creator money? Wow. What they tell me to burn in Hell, and that I'm a degenerate? Oh noes, what ever will I do other than become an insane leftist and start sacrificing children and doing satanic rituals.

Were they obnoxious? Sure. Did they piss people off, yeah. Outside of Jack Thompson who didn't even accomplish much other than a good chuckle they were weak sauce.

It's not just a different flavor, we are talking about the left who literally think nothing is wrong with trying to genoicde different groups under the UN definition of the Genocide council, brainwashing children and sexualizing them, and literally ruining everyone's lives with content they hate. They want their form of censorship punishable by death and side with groups willing to put you to death over it.

Now, yes they have led to the uniparty but here's something a lot of people always miss when bringing up the overzealous religious right, many of them that were part of the religious right or coincidentally on the left now. The authoritarian dick heads were always "leftist sheep" or prone to grift. They just used the religious right because it was in power at the time. The problem is like a bunch of kids with teenage angst people who were told to burn in Hell would rather destroy their country, then just grow up and get over it or just move away from religion instead of going full force into turning their kids into troons because that's sticking it to them.

Also let's not forget the violence. Killing over saying literally and I quote "All lives Matter."

The big mistake is people think Antifa and BLM are from the religious right. Antifa has nothing to do with the religious right at all, nor does BLM and yet the left is far more violent than they ever were. they're not just a different flavor, they don't even lead into each other. It'd be like if there were Pokemon fanatics pushing their games on everyone through public opinion and then rises right wing death squads to counter it. Completely different and unrelated to that kind of level of escalation.

Not to continue to beat the dead horse point, but too many make this same correlation causation fallacy. These grifters, child groomers, authoritarian dickheads were always waiting for their chance to shine, the religious right gave it to them, but it's because normies didn't react to them with a productive reaction instead went full 180 into literal immoral craziness. The religious right were stupid, but normies pettiness is what truly led to the uniparty.

My point was that the fact that somehow at some point during the 2010s people seemingly forgot about the bullshit censor happy shit and decided it was completely ok when the blue guys do it and even helped them along in pushing for it only to wonder why the hell they're getting fucked raw yet again and decide they're red team now or just show blind party devotion to the blue team when in current year they're very clearly overlapping to an absurd degree in terms of what they end up doing when elected.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

My point was that the fact that somehow at some point during the 2010s people seemingly forgot about the bullshit censor happy shit and decided it was completely ok when the blue guys do it and even helped them along in pushing for it only to wonder why the hell they're getting fucked raw yet again and decide they're red team now or just show blind party devotion to the blue team when in current year they're very clearly overlapping to an absurd degree in terms of what they end up doing when elected.

Well there I can agree to an extent. I think it's less that they forgot, it's the levels they (the left) go to at pushing this crap that people don't associate the two. It's like running into crazies, your uncle with PTSD who shakes and shudders vs. The bum down the road who actively wants to kill you. Both are crazy assholes, just one is severely worse than the other that it makes the other sides existence look justified.

Heck, the left's existence has made me wonder if the overzealous right wasn't right about degeneracy with how quickly it spread and to what extent. Which kind of adheres to that point.

Though I do agree, people need to stop with the blind loyalty to their political party nonsense especially end game wise they're very much alike. Even if one is just lazy and spineless and the other "evil."

 

[Troon Destroyer]

Pretty much every issue I have with the Right has been explained and detailed already, but I'll add a few things:
1. Zionist and Israel duck-sucking. Israel is our greatest ally, they are the only ME country that has same-sex marriage and pride parades, how dare the Iran develop WMD, only God's chosen countryrino can have heckin nukerinos. You will forever be a shabbosgoy for Jews if you don't stop behaving like this.
2. CoomAnon, shape-shitting reptilians, Bill Gates wants to kill at least 10% of the world's population, 9/11 truthers, Covidiocy. There are legitimate conspiracy theories (America meddling in affairs of other countries, shady stuff done during Cold War, Bush not doing enough to prevent 9/11), but these ones are just 'tarded.
3. Big Corpos bad, Small Corpos good. Small businesses often work with Big Biz and the financial elites and banks by extension, so shitting on globalists and buying things from most of shops kind of ruins your effort of resisting NWO.
4. Nazi troons and faggots. All these Catboys and Siegetards and Astolfo fanboys are right-wing version of Commie troons and drag queens.
5. Blind loyalty - REEEEpublicans are always the good guys, let's all suck Orange/Bobby/Putin/Xi/Netanyahu's peepee, Capitalism is always great, left is stupid.
6. Token minorities. WE LOVE NIGGOS MORE! - NO, WE LOVE NIGGOS MORE, DEMONCRAPS R THE REAL WAYCISTS, Israelites are our guys, pedos like Gunt are useful against the Left, look at these le bazte furries, let's take in a billion refugees, they come from socially conservative countries, they'll vore for us in the end.

 

[WITH A ROLLING PIN!]

Maybe not the "worst" thing but something that's disappointed me a lot recently (and this applies moreso to the alt-right but I've seen it from normies as well) is that when trying to argue their stance on some issue, they'll resort to some dumb "muh tradition" argument instead of one that's actually logically sound. For example with abortion, there's an extremely solid argument to be made for why it's bad (from a human rights perspective), but instead of attacking it from this perspective they'll just say that it's bad because it's un-womanlike or untraditional, or because women should be oppressed and shouldn't be able to make such decisions about their bodies, and I've literally even heard some of them say that it's only bad when specifically white women do it. I always kind of assumed that everyone regardless of political party at least operated under some basic assumptions like that morality is universal and that actual racism and sexism are bad, but I guess not.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

The worst thing about the right is that it's in a holding pattern where it's pretty much been rendered ineffective until the collapse of society. As long as there's enough wealth around to indulge Leftist utopianism and to fix the Left's boo-boos whenever their social engineering goes awry, nothing will change. Right-wingism at its core is a constellation of behaviors made to whip people into shape whenever there's a disaster, war, or famine. If those conditions don't exist, then right wingers who act forcefully just look like meanieheads who want to stop everyone's fun and discriminate against outgroups for no good reason (even when said outgroups rape and beat their daughters.)

The good news is, that Leftists are terrible at running societies. They're great at distributing abundance to fellow Lefties, but are bad at generating that abundance, since they'd much rather do SJW shit than do anything that would make a profit. And they're bad at accepting feedback since anything that does not conform to their desires immediately triggers them. The best thing the Right can do is withdraw, let the lefties fail and watch the cities collapse at a safe distance. Then get used to dirt farming, because that's something a lot of people will be doing after the post-lefty apocalypse.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

The far right and far left are both the same, TBH. Horseshoe theory is right. Both want to censor things and restrict freedoms, just in accordance to their own differing moralities and values - which they both both push. Both do witch hunts / cancellations. The right has done all the things the left is doing now, in the past, and they'll do all the things the left is doing now in the future if they gain enough power.

I've never met someone truly for freedom of speech, for example. Even all the people here, you could find SOMETHING they'd silence or report, and go "Well THATS too far." not realizing shit they do is what others say is too far.

Also, every right winger says "I'm libertarian." or "Classically Liberal" or some other label that isn't fooling anyone and nobody fucking cares that you voted blue 20-30 years ago. Welcome to how conservatism has worked since the beginning of time. I bet some people also think "MY generation was fine, but this NEW generation is going downhill..." is a new phenomena too. Not to say society isn't getting shittier, but there's never been a time in history where people havent been yelling that the end is nigh and that society is getting shittier - you have to be self-aware to some extent...

Oh, and moral fagging while being total hypocrite degenerates. PPP, for example. Nick Fuentes.

 

[Kiwisee]

Maybe not the "worst" thing but something that's disappointed me a lot recently (and this applies moreso to the alt-right but I've seen it from normies as well) is that when trying to argue their stance on some issue, they'll resort to some dumb "muh tradition" argument instead of one that's actually logically sound. For example with abortion, there's an extremely solid argument to be made for why it's bad (from a human rights perspective), but instead of attacking it from this perspective they'll just say that it's bad because it's un-womanlike or untraditional, or because women should be oppressed and shouldn't be able to make such decisions about their bodies, and I've literally even heard some of them say that it's only bad when specifically white women do it. I always kind of assumed that everyone regardless of political party at least operated under some basic assumptions like that morality is universal and that actual racism and sexism are bad, but I guess not.

To add to this, there’s another issue that has legitimacy to be argued but the right goes about it the wrong way.

Like immigration.

In my country, it’s an open secret that TFWs (temporary foreign workers) are mass imported to work in what can only be described as slave labour because locals are much more likely to unionize. They’re also more likely to report appalling work conditions. TFWs on the other hand will take as much abuse as needed, in hopes that they gain citizenship (which many do not).

Many who come in via student visas also end up finding themselves exploited as wage slaves who not only owe student loans, but immigration loans (I think that’s what it’s called? I’ve been told by immigrant coworkers that they were given a loan by the federal government as soon as they gain any citizenship… that they’re expected to pay back. Idk much else about it) and it’s as well on top of other taxes. It’s criminal that the Trudeau government, as well as other PMs before him, get away with this.

If the right wingers in Canada just dropped the whole white Genocide sperging and focused on the exploitation aspect, they’d win over even the most fanatical of Commies in this country, Most decent people aren’t fine with exploitation, especially of vulnerable people who just wanted a better life for themselves. They’d gain a lot of footing.

There’s a few other issues where the potential to shift the Overton window is there, but they’re not taking advantage of it because they will Simp for corrupt business practices at the cost of the country

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

Another consequence of this kind of thinking is that there are pretty much no large cities controlled by Republicans. They're all bastions of Democrat machine politics, which is how the Dems get away with most of the ridiculous shit that they pull (fortifying elections, letting BLM/Antifa run rampant, COVID overreach).

There are no large cities controlled by republicans. This fact is also fine, as I will explain.

In their fantasy land a Republican run city would be perfect, with a finely-tuned laissez faire economic machine creating endless prosperity, low crime, no corruption, blah blah blah. They never actually sully their hands with the business of governing, they'd rather live in a fantasy world and snipe at the party that they've yielded the arena to.

In my fantasy land, major metropolitan areas would not exist, because they are a cancer on functioning society, in this current moment in time. They had their place in the industrial revolution, but they haven't served their intended purpose in over 50 years. Major cities are not producers anymore. Instead, they are now our biggest consumer vaccum, and that leads directly into the shitshow you just described in this post. The heelturn from producer to consumer has turned large cities into drug-addled, dirt-poor, niggertowns, where any hope of success is an infuriatingly pointless and retarded gesture. They only exist to have a captive voterbase.

I don't want a republican controlled major metropolitan area. I want NO major metropolitan areas. The Baby Boomers sold off their only reason to exist to the fucking foreigners.

Yeah this is really annoying. Government = communism is just retarded and is part of what makes the right so ineffectual.

Government != Communism. Government = Socialism. I don't like Socialism either. Tell me what the government has done in the past 60 years that somehow invalidates all of its evils. Just one thing that could possibly convince me that these "people" don't need to be skinned alive and sprayed with road salt. One thing that would make them worthy of my trust. I'll just sit here and wait.

god you are so FUCKING stupid

@The Last Stand why are you so fucking stupid

seriously I wanna know, like are you mentally retarded? are you heavily medicated? what the fuck is wrong with you, let's get this settled once and for all, what exactly makes you so fucking unable to actually learn anything and stick to the most basic bitch talking points, totally unable to understand any kind of nuance in fucking anything?

You know that's the guy who admitted to having schizophrenia (or BPD), right?

They love to LARP as minutemen and insist they need guns to fight tyranny but even though they are convinced that the president wasn't democratically elected and will put them in FEMA camps they are too cowardly to do anything with their guns.

God damn, I am so sick and tired of seeing this dumbshit "point". As one of those minutemen, why wouldn't you want to wait for enough cracks to show, before going on that killing spree? More disaffected people, a worse society, and general hopelessness, means more people willing to die for you and your cause. If anything, not violently fighting the past several months of Biden has been one of the best moves made by the right in a solid couple of years. It opens up the possibility of having some really cool, really new, really weird and fucked up American captive import version of corporate-driven, cyberpunk communist dystopia, that I want to at least taste before I try to destroy it.

I want things to get MUCH worse before I can even think about making a better world. I didn't want Biden, but considering what he's doing, I'm absolutely over the moon at the fact that he's at the big desk. Call me back when my neighbors start disappearing, and then we'll have some fun.

Think about it, while there's still Farmville and Netflix, what's the point of a genuine insurrection? People can just give up, fall back on their propaganda, and be happy as a fucking clam, right now. We aren't uncomfortable enough to start justifying killing anyone yet, but it's very clearly on its way, and I'm getting pretty excited. Maybe a few downed substations and cut fiber optic cables from now, we might get to see some cool shit happen, but the bread and circus isn't dismantled yet. I hate communists, but even I've read Alinsky. There's a process involved, and it's called being patient. Come on, man.