What is the worst thing the U.S. government has done?

Just about everything that fuck Woodrow did
  • Won the White house with 41.8% of the vote after Taft and Roosevelt split rest of the vote
  • viewed The Birth of a Nation at a special White House screening, President Woodrow Wilson reportedly remarked, "It's like writing history with lightning. My only regret is that it is all so terribly true."
  • argued that the system of high tariffs "cuts us off from our proper part in the commerce of the world, violates the just principles of taxation, and makes the government a facile instrument in the hands of private interests."
  • re-established a federal income tax in the United States
  • created the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States.
  • banned price discrimination between different purchasers only when "such a discrimination substantially lessens competition or tends to create a monopoly in any line of commerce"
  • banned sales on the condition that the buyer also purchase another different product ("tying") but only "when these acts substantially lessen competition"
  • landed 330 United States Marines at Port-au-Prince, Haiti in order to establish control of Haiti's political and financial interests.
  • The Wilson administration changed the Bryan–Chamorro treaty by adding a provision which would have authorized United States military intervention in Nicaragua. The treaty kept Nicaragua and stopped any potential European powers from competing with the Panama Canal after the democratically elected José Santos Zelaya López negotiated with France, Germany and Japan to resurrect the proposed Nicaragua Canal, which might constitute potential future foreign competition with the newly built US-owned Panama Canal.
  • Signed an act for a framework for a "more autonomous government" in the Philippines, with certain privileges reserved to the United States to protect its sovereign rights and interests of course
  • WORLD WAR ONE
  • the Creel Committee, was an independent agency of the government of the United States under the Wilson administration created to influence public opinion to support the US in World War I, in particular, the US home front.
  • the Espionage Act of 1917 that Edward Snowden was charged under for revealing the government was lying to us again
  • authorized the United States federal government to raise a national army for service in World War I through conscription despite America having no business messing about in Europe
  • extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds.
  • declared fourteen points which he regarded as the only possible basis of an enduring peace. Theodore Roosevelt warned: "If the League of Nations is built on a document as high-sounding and as meaningless as the speech in which Mr. Wilson laid down his fourteen points, it will simply add one more scrap to the diplomatic waste paper basket. Most of these fourteen points... would be interpreted... to mean anything or nothing."
  • founded the first worldwide intergovernmental organisation whose only mission was to maintain world peace which it failed to do of course since Woodrow then never joined it but he did take his Nobel Peace Price for his crucial role in establishing the League of Nations.
  • Drew Wilsonian Armenia on a map and then left it to die stillborn
  • announced his support for the women's suffrage amendment.
  • appointed Louis Brandeis, the first Jewish Supreme Court justice, who was instrumental in shaping the new Federal Reserve Act.
 
Just about everything that fuck Woodrow did
  • Won the White house with 41.8% of the vote after Taft and Roosevelt split rest of the vote
  • viewed The Birth of a Nation at a special White House screening, President Woodrow Wilson reportedly remarked, "It's like writing history with lightning. My only regret is that it is all so terribly true."
  • argued that the system of high tariffs "cuts us off from our proper part in the commerce of the world, violates the just principles of taxation, and makes the government a facile instrument in the hands of private interests."
  • re-established a federal income tax in the United States
  • created the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States.
  • banned price discrimination between different purchasers only when "such a discrimination substantially lessens competition or tends to create a monopoly in any line of commerce"
  • banned sales on the condition that the buyer also purchase another different product ("tying") but only "when these acts substantially lessen competition"
  • landed 330 United States Marines at Port-au-Prince, Haiti in order to establish control of Haiti's political and financial interests.
  • The Wilson administration changed the Bryan–Chamorro treaty by adding a provision which would have authorized United States military intervention in Nicaragua. The treaty kept Nicaragua and stopped any potential European powers from competing with the Panama Canal after the democratically elected José Santos Zelaya López negotiated with France, Germany and Japan to resurrect the proposed Nicaragua Canal, which might constitute potential future foreign competition with the newly built US-owned Panama Canal.
  • Signed an act for a framework for a "more autonomous government" in the Philippines, with certain privileges reserved to the United States to protect its sovereign rights and interests of course
  • WORLD WAR ONE
  • the Creel Committee, was an independent agency of the government of the United States under the Wilson administration created to influence public opinion to support the US in World War I, in particular, the US home front.
  • the Espionage Act of 1917 that Edward Snowden was charged under for revealing the government was lying to us again
  • authorized the United States federal government to raise a national army for service in World War I through conscription despite America having no business messing about in Europe
  • extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds.
  • declared fourteen points which he regarded as the only possible basis of an enduring peace. Theodore Roosevelt warned: "If the League of Nations is built on a document as high-sounding and as meaningless as the speech in which Mr. Wilson laid down his fourteen points, it will simply add one more scrap to the diplomatic waste paper basket. Most of these fourteen points... would be interpreted... to mean anything or nothing."
  • founded the first worldwide intergovernmental organisation whose only mission was to maintain world peace which it failed to do of course since Woodrow then never joined it but he did take his Nobel Peace Price for his crucial role in establishing the League of Nations.
  • Drew Wilsonian Armenia on a map and then left it to die stillborn
  • announced his support for the women's suffrage amendment.
  • appointed Louis Brandeis, the first Jewish Supreme Court justice, who was instrumental in shaping the new Federal Reserve Act.
Burn in Hell Wilson, and FDR too. The Democratic Party shouldn’t have been allowed to survive Reconstruction.
 
Just about everything that fuck Woodrow did
  • Won the White house with 41.8% of the vote after Taft and Roosevelt split rest of the vote
  • viewed The Birth of a Nation at a special White House screening, President Woodrow Wilson reportedly remarked, "It's like writing history with lightning. My only regret is that it is all so terribly true."
  • argued that the system of high tariffs "cuts us off from our proper part in the commerce of the world, violates the just principles of taxation, and makes the government a facile instrument in the hands of private interests."
  • re-established a federal income tax in the United States
  • created the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States.
  • banned price discrimination between different purchasers only when "such a discrimination substantially lessens competition or tends to create a monopoly in any line of commerce"
  • banned sales on the condition that the buyer also purchase another different product ("tying") but only "when these acts substantially lessen competition"
  • landed 330 United States Marines at Port-au-Prince, Haiti in order to establish control of Haiti's political and financial interests.
  • The Wilson administration changed the Bryan–Chamorro treaty by adding a provision which would have authorized United States military intervention in Nicaragua. The treaty kept Nicaragua and stopped any potential European powers from competing with the Panama Canal after the democratically elected José Santos Zelaya López negotiated with France, Germany and Japan to resurrect the proposed Nicaragua Canal, which might constitute potential future foreign competition with the newly built US-owned Panama Canal.
  • Signed an act for a framework for a "more autonomous government" in the Philippines, with certain privileges reserved to the United States to protect its sovereign rights and interests of course
  • WORLD WAR ONE
  • the Creel Committee, was an independent agency of the government of the United States under the Wilson administration created to influence public opinion to support the US in World War I, in particular, the US home front.
  • the Espionage Act of 1917 that Edward Snowden was charged under for revealing the government was lying to us again
  • authorized the United States federal government to raise a national army for service in World War I through conscription despite America having no business messing about in Europe
  • extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds.
  • declared fourteen points which he regarded as the only possible basis of an enduring peace. Theodore Roosevelt warned: "If the League of Nations is built on a document as high-sounding and as meaningless as the speech in which Mr. Wilson laid down his fourteen points, it will simply add one more scrap to the diplomatic waste paper basket. Most of these fourteen points... would be interpreted... to mean anything or nothing."
  • founded the first worldwide intergovernmental organisation whose only mission was to maintain world peace which it failed to do of course since Woodrow then never joined it but he did take his Nobel Peace Price for his crucial role in establishing the League of Nations.
  • Drew Wilsonian Armenia on a map and then left it to die stillborn
  • announced his support for the women's suffrage amendment.
  • appointed Louis Brandeis, the first Jewish Supreme Court justice, who was instrumental in shaping the new Federal Reserve Act.
Wilson is the worst president hands down imo. Yankees may not like it, but I put Lincoln next for mishandling the abolishing of slavery which just galvanized the South into war. And then Obama for his failure to do anything he promised and his complete 180 into the establishment.
 
Burn in Hell Wilson, and FDR too. The Democratic Party shouldn’t have been allowed to survive Reconstruction.
He started the gushing bullshit of moralizing via meaningless rhetorical niceties while throwing armies at smaller nations to establish international hard power.

Mexico got an early sampling though when President James K. Polk promised them no land transfers via diplomats in California but later explained 'voluntary accession to the United States' was on the table based on whether America heard you wanted to join up and America would count the ballots to see how many agreed. Mexico then logically prepared for war because at worst they were going to get fucked over anyway, and America took that as a declaration and attacked earlier than Mexico could muster having already mustered over Texas. Mexico's losses amounted to one-third of its original territory from its 1821 independence.

America decides the exception to rules in all of their dealings, but uses such flowery bullshit principles to do it. The average American is told the rest of the world hates America because 'they aren't us' or because 'they hate our freedoms', which is never quite true. Its that, if you are any other nation in the whole world, America is your drunk dad lecturing you about responsibility. It talks over you and is simultaneously moralizing and petty in every sentence. Claims to be in charge, but is so catty and bitchy at the same time. Everybody plots together to bring someone like that down. That, not any one incident, is the worst thing about America.

But from inside America, the cherry on top is that every Democrat voter who read what I wrote petulantly and childishly assumes I'm talking about Republican leaders. Everyone in the world knows about Democrats and Republicans, no foreigner outside of a Hollywood movie thinks its just the Republicans and pleads with any Democrat to please help them. Every movie has that moment, in real life the Democrat is the villain too. I loathe the Libertarian who steps over the impoverished, but I hate the democrat who starts a charity to collect a vast sums of money who then just buys homes with it like Sanders and that BLM chick. Its the same thing, but at least the libertarian is honest. Neither will give you healthcare, but the Democrat is so much worse about it.
 
All I can think about when reading this thread is this stupid image.

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Not the Americans fault as it was two groups of Brits, but... 1776

Britain had had a civil war leading to the abolishment of the Crown, then things went tits up, so we put the royal family back.

Not learning from history, turning their backs on the crown and trying to give it another go on their own was pretty stupid. The crown stopped anyone from being bigger than the crown, which some see as a bad thing.

But when you look at the achievements of the empire from 1776 to 1976 and compare those to the achievements of the americas from 1776 to 1976, you can see you dun fucked up
 
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Containment Policy. The Federal government fundamentally did not understand communism and how third-world revolutionaries viewed it, assuming that every revolutionary movement was planned out by the Soviets when at most, they would have just supplied arms. If the U.S. treated third-world communist governments like Yugoslavia, where the U.S. doesn't overthrow them in exchange for these governments opposing the Soviet Union, the Soviets would have been more isolated and possibly collapse earlier along with so much less bloodshed.
 
Is that statistic actually true?


Those are two unrelated incidents. The Mark-1 plumbing picture is from the Syrian War.

Absolute bullshit, not true.

I can’t speak for slaveowners in other countries, and the statistic could be true for slave ship owners specifically, but when it comes to American slavery, about one-third of all White Southern families owned slaves. Do you think nearly a quarter of the White Southern population was Jewish? (It wasn’t.)
 
Not the Americans fault as it was two groups of Brits, but... 1776

Britain had had a civil war leading to the abolishment of the Crown, then things went tits up, so we put the royal family back.

Not learning from history, turning their backs on the crown and trying to give it another go on their own was pretty stupid. The crown stopped anyone from being bigger than the crown, which some see as a bad thing.

But when you look at the achievements of the empire from 1776 to 1976 and compare those to the achievements of the americas from 1776 to 1976, you can see you dun fucked up
One went from a European Great Power with an empire to a European Great Power with no army.

The other went from being a frontier backwater to the leading superpower.

yeah gargle more British dick
 
One went from a European Great Power with an empire to a European Great Power with no army.

The other went from being a frontier backwater to the leading superpower.

yeah gargle more British dick
The British had no army?

Now do that comparison again with medical advancements, technological discoveries, wars won.
 
Not the Americans fault as it was two groups of Brits, but... 1776

Britain had had a civil war leading to the abolishment of the Crown, then things went tits up, so we put the royal family back.

Not learning from history, turning their backs on the crown and trying to give it another go on their own was pretty stupid. The crown stopped anyone from being bigger than the crown, which some see as a bad thing.

But when you look at the achievements of the empire from 1776 to 1976 and compare those to the achievements of the americas from 1776 to 1976, you can see you dun fucked up
We have military bases in Britain. I think it's pretty clear who fucked up and who didn't.
 
The British had no army?

Now do that comparison again with medical advancements, technological discoveries, wars won.
I meant to write empire.
I’ll see if I can draft a little list of medical advancements and technological discoveries, but it’s baffling that you think Britain is clearly superior on that point given what a very large number of inventions came out of the US.
 
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