What is true freedom to you all?

Ah, but freedom brings responsibility. If you're free to do whatever you want, you need to realise how doing whatever you want affects people and the world around you - and consider the fact that doing what you want might cause negative effects to others. Not giving a shit about anyone else will quite probably limit someone else's freedom...

Which leaves two questions. 1) Can we really be free, if this is the case? 2) Do we really want to be free, if it means so much responsibility?

The responsibility bit seems to be completely ignored by sjws, who assume that their freedom trumps everyone else's and fuck you, shitlord, if you get in the way. They also seem to love issuing long lists of rules for people that aren't them to follow. Irony, thy name is social justice.
 
Freedom to me is more or less the core values of The Constitution, as it was pretty clearly intended to be. Beyond that, the freedom to not be spied on at literal all times would be super nice, but we can just forget about that, realistically.




Responding to above, the problem with modern people and their perception of freedom, what it means, and especially, what responsibilities you assume to maintain it, is that, tinfoil hats aside, most people truly are sheep, and it's because they've never been required, or even strongly encouraged to believe in anything with enough passion to die for whatever that may be. Sure, some parents say they would die for their kids, most sons would probably die for their mothers, but that's not what I mean. As gay as generational warfare is, millenials inherited a jaded earth, with rampant reddit-tier atheism, no pride in their countries, sometimes even disdain for them, and in turn, really nothing to look forward to as a society. Now, of course, too much of that is a bad thing. I'm not saying society needs to convert to christianity, but our current society breeds this dreadful type of "everything is a social construct so do literally nothing with your life because it doesn't matter" nihilistic narcissist. A little patriotism, and perhaps even a little ego death, means the difference between a responsible gun owner, and Antifa.

Look at those faggots in Antifa. Using the fullest extent of their natural rights, and more, so that they can get on a pedestal and tell the world all about how other people using their rights is wrong and that they need fewer of them. All about how hanging out at the Starbucks with your BFF and your smartphones on a wednesday afternoon is just soooo hard and wouldn't it all be better if were serfs or a slave underclass? Man, fuck whitey for inventing culture and basically every useful thing except for gun powder and peanut butter!

My point is, if they were this dissident in a truly fascist regime, they'd be fucking bogged. They know they will survive doing what they're doing, and if the time came that they had to die for what they believed in, they would simply skip town, or go into hiding. They don't believe anything surrounding them, even their own bullshit, enough to be willing to sacrifice themselves for it. That's the responsibility you're talking about that they lack. They are the ultimate flavor of cowardice.
 
No taxes. I will never be free as long as I pay taxes. Damn, I hate taxes.

I spawned, I pay taxes.

Kinda feel for DSP on the tax front. I'm wondering if I could recruit him for a suicide mission against an IRS office.
 
True Freedom? I mean, one way of looking at it you're always living it, you can do whatever you want. You might face consequences though.
Or, maybe it's being dead, where absolutely nothing is required of you.
Maybe only a theoretical god could be considered truly free.

Can freedom exist if all effects have a cause? Aren't we just following the laws of physics, just like a fire or a nuclear explosion? A fire may seem free while it burns down the forest, but it's just doing what it does. Even the Copenhagen interpretation of particle physics only allows for randomness, not actual choice.

I don't think it exists except as a concept in people's heads, and therefore it's whatever you think it is.
 
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