What is your favorite piece of art where you disagreed with the artist?

[Haloperidol]

Don't even get me started on the self-righteous killjoy fanbase that show has collected over the years. Like we get it already. All of the crap they feel the need to pontificate and moralize upon, everybody already understands. It's irritating as fuck. Make any sort of comment that can be considered praise for any of the criminal characters and you'll get a bunch of redditors appearing out of nowhere to tell you all about how you are actually supposed to hate the people in the show and have missed "the point".

Breaking Bad suffers from this too, I spend the whole show watching this guy go from meek chemistry teacher to drug kingpin in order to help his family, go online and discover I’m not supposed to think that’s awesome. This is fantasy, I don’t have to have the same values towards media as I do towards real life events, but redditor types can’t separate the two.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Clickbait article people revised the meaning of the films and they surprisingly denied that claim about ti being about trans shit constantly until one of them started claiming it was always meant to be that and the other one still saying it wasn't. I can't remember if it was the one that made the shitty recent sequel or not but that itself is a stain that I'm leaning towards just in the current year sequel-is of undoing the events of the prior movies to set up for more potential sequels in the most nonsense of ways.

Were the clear intention here, then there would be, say, at least one character, who is a man in the crappy real world, but a woman in Matrix, or vice versa. (Or is there? The only thing I remember from the 3rd movie, is Navras, the ending credits song. ) Nothing more direct than that to convey the thought.
It's just like when a middle-aged man with a wife and several children realizes he feels like a woman now, and reframes his entire typically man-life prior to that as if he was a woman all along.

What if you like some paintings of peaceful old-fashioned town by an Austrian painter, but don't agree with certain politics he held?

Tbh, many artists would like to be at least as good with aquarel, paint and details as Hitler was. Nothing wrong with that.
But apart from the infamous wacky perspective, many of his works look as if a bigger image was badly cropped. Someone less determined would discard the sketch and start a new one when they realize a top of a tower can't fit into the frame, but he finished it in details. We can say he already had certain problem with boundaries.
So, his inability to frame a scene in an aesthetically pleasing way was likely a reason he wasn't accepted to the art school.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

I have mixed opinions on Isaac Asimov due to him being a typical "anti-racist" liberal Jew, but I really liked the Lije Bailey books, and grew up reading his countless short stories. Also liked "his" Robot City novels which were written by other authors but took place in his literary universe and were published under his name with forewords by him.

Asimov is one of the greatest sci-fi writers of all time, and I adore his books. but he was also a Joe Biden tier creepy weirdo who liked giving female colleagues overly friendly hugs and smelling their hair and shit like that. there's a dark, intense irony in his death at the hand of HIV due to a blood transplant, which his family hid for decades due to the common assumption that contracting AIDS meant you were secretly gay. anyway, enjoy this poem of his, which I identify with more every year.

Spoiler: The Prime of Life, by Isaac Asimov

It was, in truth, an eager youth
Who halted me one day.
He gazed in bliss at me, and this
Is what he had to say:

"Why, mazel tov, it's Asimov,
A blessing on your head!
For many a year, I've lived in fear
That you were long since dead.

Or if alive, one fifty-five
Cold years had passed you by,
And left you weak, with poor physique,
Thin hair and rheumy eye.

For sure enough, I've read your stuff
Since I was but a lad
And couldn't spell or hardly tell
The good yarns from the bad.

My father, too, was reading you
Before he met my Ma.
For you he earned, once he had learned
About you from his Pa.

Since time began, you wondrous man,
My ancestors did love
That s.f. dean and writing machine
The aged Asimov."

I'd had my fill. I said: "Be still!
I've kept my old-time spark.
My step is light, my eye is bright,
My hair is thick and dark."

His smile, in brief, spelled disbelief,
So this is what I did;
I scowled, you know, and with one blow,
I killed that rotten kid.

 

[The Snail]

Wait that's NOT what it was about? It still seriously felt like a serious jab towards them imo.

It really demphisizes the liberal correlation, and instead goes simply for "witepeepo creepy and weird yall!!". Peele also went along with that version after the insane success with stupid black audiences, who can't read subtext. He did it to garner an easy perminant audience, which has stuck around.

 

[McMitch]

Breaking Bad suffers from this too, I spend the whole show watching this guy go from meek chemistry teacher to drug kingpin in order to help his family, go online and discover I’m not supposed to think that’s awesome. This is fantasy, I don’t have to have the same values towards media as I do towards real life events, but redditor types can’t separate the two.

You’re not supposed to because his entire journey to do so was only to serve his self-satisfaction at the cost of his family, but was also completely unnecessary before he even became a teacher. This reasoning that Breaking Bad is a commentary of an unfortunate man being put upon by the health industry only comes from people who didn’t watch the show/didn’t pay attention from the first episode. The only people he actually screwed over was his wife and children.

Thread donation (because taxation is theft and this is a voluntary decision): Aqualung is a fucking great album, and Jethro Tull a fucking great band, and Ian Anderson a fucking great musician; but Anderson’s autistic insistence that Aqualung is not a concept album, when half the tracks are about the seedy and unattractive elements of a what should be a quaint English town and the rest telling the Church of England to go fuck itself, is a wholly retarded take.

 

[Haloperidol]

You’re not supposed to because his entire journey to do so was only to serve his self-satisfaction at the cost of his family, but was also completely unnecessary before he even became a teacher. This reasoning that Breaking Bad is a commentary of an unfortunate man being put upon by the health industry only comes from people who didn’t watch the show/didn’t pay attention from the first episode. The only people he actually screwed over was his wife and children.

I meant awesome as in fascinating to watch, not heroic. I just enjoyed watching him go from a normal man with a normal life to a hardass cooking meth and working with criminals, it was extremely compelling and the moralizing doesn’t interest me. But I’ve always been more of a plot person than a character person.

 

[#FreeRoss]

I like the song Imagine by John Lennon, even though I completely disagree with the message. Another song is Southern Man" by Neil Young. It's a great song with a cringey message.

 

[Moral Decay]

I like this song called "Heavy News" by Bear Ghost. According to the band, it's a criticism of people who don't believe the mainstream media... yet it works better as an anti-MSM-fear-mongering anthem. No matter how I look at it, I can't interpret the lyrics any other way.

Which is fine by me. It's a good song, and their message would annoy me if it were actually in the song.

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

Literally any musician ever since the good ones tend to be liberal. You could not catch me listening to fucking Tom Macdonald or Kid Rock. Sad!

I like a lot of Stephen King's writing, but I don't agree with his ultra-liberal politics or embarrassing levels of TDS. It's a shame because of how much of his work is really very clever in places, sure nowadays it's easy to meme on him being a middling hack who wrote a bunch of junk but I remember reading some of his select works as a kid and how they shaped my entry into horror literature. They set a bar for sure. Pet Sematary, The Jaunt, The Man In The Black Suit, Cain Rose Up, all of these stories are ingrained into my memory as milestones for modern horror literature. I grew up with Creepshow and some of his (albeit not as good as the book) movies/miniseries. Yeah, just a shame all he does nowadays is cry about Trump on twitter like a weirdo.

Isn't a pedo or something.

 

[Cats]

Isn't a pedo or something.

He wrote a pretty sus sex scene toward the end of the novel "It". Of course it got left out of the screen adaptations lmao. I have no clue if he actually is one or not, I don't think so...but you never really know, I guess. sometimes people will point to that particular scene and accuse him of being inappropriate or just flat out call him a Lester

 

[AnOminous]

I like the song Imagine by John Lennon, even though I completely disagree with the message. Another song is Southern Man" by Neil Young. It's a great song with a cringey message.

I liked when Skynyrd basically told Neil Young to go fuck himself (in "Sweet Home Alabama").

 

[LifeAlert]

Rage Against the Machine. I love Tom Morello's guitar work and the instrumentals of their songs, and I actually enjoy Zach's vocals by themselves, but I hate their political messaging. I would settle for general anti-government sentiment, not marxist faggotry

Blade Runner, depending on which version of the canon Ridley Scott is currently choosing to advocate. One of the best movies ever made, but Deckard isn't a fucking replicant.

The only issue is is that Gaff's origami is in all versions of the movie. In the "human Deckard" interpretation, the origami makes no sense

 

[#FreeRoss]

I liked when Skynyrd basically told Neil Young to go fuck himself (in "Sweet Home Alabama").

Southern Man is the song that inspired Lynyrd Skynyrd to make Sweet Home Alabama. The message of Southern Man is basically Neil Young complaining that the South didn't pay the slaves, so after Lynyrd Skynyrd heard the song and thought it was stupid how Neil Young put the South down, they made Sweet Home Alabama in response. It's funny how Sweet Home Alabama, which was partially a Neil Young diss track, is now more popular than any song Neil Young has ever made.

 

[Pedophobe]

The director of Another Earth completely misunderstood the ending, the idiot. Or maybe I did, in which case I actually hate it. Either way, one of us is wrong.

 

[AnOminous]

Rage Against the Machine. I love Tom Morello's guitar work and the instrumentals of their songs, and I actually enjoy Zach's vocals by themselves, but I hate their political messaging. I would settle for general anti-government sentiment, not marxist faggotry

Even if you agreed with it it's totally hard when they basically turned into Rage For the Machine when they were basically just Hillary-worshipping faggots. Yeah nothing more rebellious than supporting the candidate of one half of the uniparty.

 

[#FreeRoss]

Even if you agreed with it it's totally hard when they basically turned into Rage For the Machine when they were basically just Hillary-worshipping faggots. Yeah nothing more rebellious than supporting the candidate of one half of the uniparty.

or the fact that Tom Morello and the rest of the band are multimillionaires who at one point charged people 500 dollars to see them in concert, even though some right-wing artists like Kid Rock only charges people 30 dollars for his tickets, but of course leftists will justify their hypocrisy by saying, "So socialism means no house?" even though they could easily live without a million-dollar mansion.

 

[Oliver Onions]

The only issue is is that Gaff's origami is in all versions of the movie. In the "human Deckard" interpretation, the origami makes no sense

My interpretation was always that Gaff was letting Deckard know he found Rachel, because she was in the apartment when he visited. Whether it was meant as a warning or to let Deckard know he was letting them escape is up for debate, but I don't think the origami interferes with Deckard being human at all.

 

[Safari]

I love many Studio Ghibli films, but on a personal and ideological level I think Miyazaki is arrogant and less intelligent than he believes he is. His lack of support towards his own son's work is unnecessary and pretentious. The cult of personality around him is embarassing and shameful.

Blade Runner, depending on which version of the canon Ridley Scott is currently choosing to advocate. One of the best movies ever made, but Deckard isn't a fucking replicant.

I enjoy the movie of Blade Runner for its visuals and powerful imagery. However, I believe that the central theme of the movie is misguided. I prefer the original book. For all of its narrative flaws, the original book had a more sober and dark depiction of androids and society as a whole. The film tries to be emotionally impactful and inspire empathy, while the book is ruthless and schizophrenic. I hope there will be a film set in this universe that adopts the imagery and style of the movie while maintaining the more cynical and unforgiving tone of the book.

 

[Oliver Onions]

For all of its narrative flaws, the original book had a more sober and dark depiction of androids and society as a whole

I kind of agree with you. I personally didn't enjoy the book because of the large sections devoted to the economics of pet ownership, but I do think it handled the characters better. The replicants seemed a lot more sinister than in the movie where they're pretty sympathetic figures, and I liked the weird ending (although I would never trade it for Rutger Hauer's final scene in the movie).

I'd rather they leave the IP alone now, but I'm sure an Amazon Prime mini-series is inevitable.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

It's so aggressively bad that I struggle to comprehend how it could be anything but intentional sabotage

The problem with this theory is that most of brothers Sister movies after that were at the same level of shit, their closest one Jupiter Ascension being just as bad. As for lack of ideas just compare first Matrix and the sequels. My theory is that they decided to go with it because well there was no better option since almost every movie they made since Matrix flopped. During this they realized how bad it actually was and decided to "pretend to be retarded" to soften the blow. Also, click bait channels would spew anything for views so I don't take their stuff seriously at all. Just like the crap about second Joker being masterpiece in disguise.