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Besides Tibetans and Uyghurs, there are no minorities actively suppressed by the CCP (and Tibetans face nowhere near as much suppression as the Uyghurs do) and the CCP is full of minority politicians. "National socialism" is a good descriptor for China, but to call China akin to Nazi Germany is a complete distortion. China is more civic nationalist than ethnosupremacist, and in their civic nationalism they are determined to achieve economic subjugation of the world rather than the globalist national self-hatred promoted as state ideology in the US and EU.Actually the present Dalai Lama has acquiesced to Chinese communist control. He calls for democracy and more representation for the Tibetans in their own homeland. Not that it matters - the Chinese communists seem determined to do the same things to the Tibetans that they are doing to the Uighurs, then use Nepal as a potential springboard into India.
As an aside, this is just more demonstrable proof that the Chinese socialists are as nationalist and as fascist as the National Socialists of Germany were. Likewise their interests are clearly nationalist, strategic and economic. The CCP is promoting the interests of the Han Chinese in the same way National Socialists promoted the interests of the "Aryan" Germans and the Bolshevik Empire promoted the interests of Russians. The inherent racist bigotry, anti-Semitism and bald-faced hypocrisy of socialists in the West is increasingly making itself manifest as well, with the Maoists imitating them in their own unique cultural way.
BTW is this the same "Bolshevik Empire" which was led mainly by Jews until an ethnic Georgian purged them all, and then was subsequently headed by a Ukrainian who reversed the genocidal deportations ordered by said Georgian, and then another Ukrainian headed the country for 18 years and let it stagnate? I'm getting a little skeptical about your grasp on history and ethnicity.
I never said there was, I said that because we were discussing what the average Tibetan was in times past. Unlike the Swiss, the average Tibetan still lived a medieval lifestyle before the CCP built roads and invested in the region's natural resources. Putin is of course correct regarding the Nazi presence in the Ukraine given the veneration of Stepan Bandera and other Nazis, the prevelence of Nazi symbology like swastikas and the Black Sun, and the CIA-installed current Ukrainian government's origins in Ukrainian Nazis the CIA helped escape after 1945 to use as tools against the USSR.And in the 15th century the Swiss were a violent state known for their mercenaries. No one today advocates that Switzerland ought to be invaded and suppressed to combat militarism in Europe. This is even less reasonable than Putin arguing that his war in Ukraine is to combat a National Socialist presence there.
It has literally nothing to do with that as I proved. Poland was never even part of the USSR and was an internationally recognized country after 1918. Tibet was internationally recognized as an autonomous region of China. Therefore China was restoring their authority to their own autonomous region, as China had done in the past (Yuan and Qing restored their authority in Tibet several times). If you want to mention Poland, it's closer to the Russian Empire subduing the 1863 January Uprising in the Kingdom of Poland (aka Congress Poland, legally a state in personal union with Russia and nominally an autonomous region).Very much comparable, particularly when Poland was a province of the Bolshevik Empire. It's also akin to arguing that Cuba rightfully belongs to the US.
Yes, de facto, which is not de jure. The entire world (apparently barring Nepal, Bhutan, and 1910s era Mongolia) recognized Tibet as part of the Republic of China. The Republic of China had a large number of de facto independent warlords in that era, of which, yes, other nations conducted diplomacy with.Tibet was de facto independent from 1911 to 1951, and maintained diplomatic relations with Nepal, Bhutan, Britain, and later with independent India. The invasion was akin to Turkey deciding to conquer Armenia or Greece.
Got a source on Nepal and Bhutan? Did they actually view Tibet as an independent state separate from China in the 1911-1951 period or was their stance merely the same as Britain's? Because Britain did not view Tibet as an independent state but merely a local authority to be negotiated with. India IIRC inherited this stance after 1947.
Tibetans were not disproportionately affected by the Great Leap Forward because the main impacts were in the most productive agricultural regions of China where grain was confiscated.Which is why the Great Leap Forward was such a disaster for them, just as it was for the native Chinese. Communist authoritarian racists, who had no respect for the "backward" rural people, decided to impose their idiotic ideas about farming on people who had maintained themselves with traditional forms of farming for centuries. Those who resisted, in the communist tradition, were simply shot. This is particularly why Left fascists are so bad at agriculture - they don't know what the fuck they are doing, and are too arrogant and tyrannical to admit it. When their terrorized farmers try to do things in a way that works, they get killed for it. So the socialists eventually get their way, destroy the next year's crops, and lots of poor people begin to die. Because the socialists are greedy and STILL won't admit they're wrong, they blame the peasants for the mess, steal their remaining food and seed and then sell it overseas for luxury goods to placate their senior socialist elite. This was the formula for at least three separate mass famines in Bolshevik Russia, one of which was very obviously intentional - and the agricultural management system upon which the "Great Leap Forward" was based on..
There were no intentional famines during Stalinism. There was government mismanagement that helped make a natural famine far worse and murder of class enemies, but the Soviet government never created a famine to kill people. Much of that myth was created by the CIA in the 1950s with the aid of Ukrainian Nazi collaborators.
"Not much else?" The ChiComs won the civil war because the KMT was insanely corrupt, absolutely incompetent at military affairs which took until 1945 to be able to win actual battles against the Japanese. They were despised by vast swathes of the Chinese peasantry and were one step below the Japanese in terms of the damage they did to China--millions died as a result of their policies.It hasn't faded naturally. It's being deliberately destroyed.
“We often get asked why we don’t hear about Tibet any more,” said Tsering, known as the Sikyong of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).
He blamed that silence on China’s “Orwellian gridlock system, use of all means of artificial intelligence to surveil people, control the flow of information and lockdown of Tibet to the outside world”.
“Tibetan language, religion and culture are the bedrock of Tibetan identity … These are facing the unprecedented threat of eradication,” he told the bipartisan Congressional-Executive Commission on China hearing via video link.
“If PRC [[People’s Republic of China] is not made to reverse or change its current policies, Tibet and Tibetans will definitely die a slow death,” Tsering added.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/29/tibet-dying-a-slow-death-under-chinese-rule-says-exiled-leader
Communist China doesn't have a moral right to rule Tibet. They don't even have a moral right to rule mainland China, and are in power there based on coercive force and not much else. What support they had is frittering away as corrupt communist officials rob and cheat the Chinese people and mismanage the country.
The legitimate government of China is based in Taipei. They know it too, which is why the communists are so keen to destroy it.