What makes a man become a soyboy?

Lack of goals whether it be short term or long term and lack of discipline.
 
One theory for why the Urban Market has such overdramatic, emotional behavior even among the males is that all they see growing up are single mothers controlling all the resources (gubmint checks), with other single mothers in every government/school/social worker role, so they adopt the same catty behavior.

Another is that males who can't compete overtly on masculine traits (strength, confidence, dominance) fall back to more passive, effeminate ones. Hence all the "not a good look sweatie!" approval-seeking behavior on social media, and the "male feminists" who inevitably end up being the biggest predators.

Textbook example is Ziad Ahmed from that interview where Vince Dao explained Asian success to a bunch of Vice progs. From 0:23-0:50 he's frantically "wowjustwow!"ing toward every camera he can find. (He got into Stanford by writing "Black Lives Matter" 100x for his essay...Dad is a Citibank senior exec but somehow he's on every "minority victim" panel in existence).

 
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My observations (besides what others have touched upon, especially regarding absent fathers):

Being too online or more broadly, never developing physical skills or mental endurance.

Anyone can feel like an all knowing genius online, in their hugbox, facing the abstract. They can get all the upvotes and repeat all the clever arguments they want. They can feel smug in their own superiority and tucked away in their consumerist social groups. They can justify any and all behaviors and often do. They see no need for strength - moral or physical - because it was never required. They usually go into office jobs where every problem has a solution they can find easily online.

Their entire worldview is based on a simulation of the world they curate for themselves or in their physical sterile environment.

Can they swing a hammer? Can they catch a fish? Can they build a stable family unit and pass down good morals? Have they ever had to confront real evil? Have they ever watched something die or be killed? Have they ever had to cooperate in a group while being in physically uncomfortable?

A boy who had to grow up solving physical problems and sometimes failing doesn’t typically become a soyboy. A boy who operates in the real physical world and can physically feel his limitations will tend to stay humble.

Think Boy Scouts. Ball games. Raising animals. Hiking, camping, playing outside. Military programs.

Anything that forces the child to confront the harshness of reality and checks the ego will protect them from becoming a soyboy. It also improves their confidence as they develop independence and real skills.

Nature also encourages spirituality and a belief in god. Another protective factor.

All this applies to girls, too.
 
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TheLostMarxBrotherFucko said:
-No Father or Father-like figure
-Shitty mother
-Too much TV growing up
-No physical activity growing up
-Public school system
-"Punk Rock"
-shitty diet of fats and corn syrup
-Liking "Scott pilgrim Vs the world"
-Nostalgia overdosing
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im curious what do you mean by "punk rock" making someone a soyboy.
 
MajinGoku said:
im curious what do you mean by "punk rock" making someone a soyboy.
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Mainstream pop "punk": Bowling for Soup, Weezer, Green Day, The Offspring, Rage against the Machine, ETC. or more specific cases music crying about the angsty high school years. I have a friend who is a huge geek/nerd and a manchild tbh but you love your friends in all. However, every fucking time he starts to play his music list, I want to hit him with a brick.
 
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TheLostMarxBrotherFucko said:
Mainstream pop "punk": Bowling for Soup, Weezer, Green Day, The Offspring, Rage against the Machine, ETC. or more specific cases music crying about the angsty high school years. I have a friend who is a huge geek/nerd and a manchild tbh but you love your friends in all. However, every fucking time he starts to play his music list, I want to hit him with a brick.
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makes sense all of those bands songs are angsty songs longing for girls. I like rock music but when I hear a song about a guy simping for a girl I always cringe. I personally perfer heavy metal from slipknot, soad, and korn. What kind of music do you like?
 
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They are high in neuroticism. They are guys who get butthurt about having been bullied or for having received any pressure of expectation, then when some degenerates come along and "love bomb" them with seemingly no strings attached, they cling to them like flies to shit. Everyone they met in their life prior was just mean for "no reason", or due to some sociological nonsense.
 
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makes sense all of those bands songs are angsty songs longing for girls. I like rock music but when I hear a song about a guy simping for a girl I always cringe. I personally perfer heavy metal from slipknot, soad, and korn. What kind of music do you like?
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You got all day? Jazz, Blues, Nu Metal, Folk, Speed or Thrash metal, vidya game soundtracks and their remixes. Recent one I got into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac6VcxLvr6Q, Horrorcore (used to a be juggalo), got recently into Folk Punk. I prefer more minimalist style music. Just a person with an instrument like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i8vHDzgIJE
Not much into Electronic or R&B or Hair/glam metal. I cannot stand mainstream slop like modern pop or rap or Country.
 
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Mainstream pop "punk": Bowling for Soup, Weezer, Green Day, The Offspring, Rage against the Machine, ETC. or more specific cases music crying about the angsty high school years. I have a friend who is a huge geek/nerd and a manchild tbh but you love your friends in all. However, every fucking time he starts to play his music list, I want to hit him with a brick.
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Grandpa spotted. Not if you’re listening to the right stuff.

Punk helped me figure some important things out at a crucial time, but you have to learn to grow out of that anger or it will inhibit your growth. It has its place and time.

Straight-edge is full of anthems for personal growth.

As for what makes a soyboy, excessive internet use and the excessive use of digital anesthetics: porn, video games, scrolling media like tiktok. Get off the goddamn iphone.
 
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Excess soy latte consumption and the tapwater having estrogen in it that can't be removed.
 
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