What, really, is "Cyberpunk"?

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So here's what I think is a hot take. *AHEM*

This, is Deus Ex.
I recommend it without hestitation. It's an excellent game. Lives up to just about all of it's hype. It's intelligent. It's fun to play. I like the characters. It's even got that Paul Verhooven effect of becoming more relevant as the years pass.
This, is Blade Runner
Good movie. Easy to see why it was influential. Script is a bit lumpy, but it does the job. A lot of the shots could be considered master works of art. Also don't hesitate to recommend.

But nowadays, I don't consider these things "Cyberpunk". Near-future sci fi, for sure. But not Cyberpunk.
Why?
I started playing this

most vidya sorts already know about this game and the well deserved rep is earned.
It's discordant.
It's unpleasant to look at much of the time.
Life is cheap to the point where death has little meaning.
It has a feel of hopelessness.
It has almost as much a feel of misguided anger.
People are slaves to technology.
Getting new tech into your body makes more than human, but also more of a tool.
People are numb to death around them.
Murder is just another tool for capitalistic gain.
Wealth is Godhood.
(And the big one for me...) Cybernetic assassins are not ultra cool enforcers, they're miserable, disposable losers with rotting bodies grinding to eek out an existence by doing dirty-as-fuck work to make someone else wealthy.

This screams both Cyber and Punk to me far more than cool synth tracks, shiny weeaboo terrained cities, and square jawed super chill gun porn loving trenchcoat wearing square jawed/big tittied mercenaries. I still like my synthwave nipponphile big gun slinging settings, don't misunderstand, but while it has some "Cyber" it lacks even a shred of "Punk."

Is it time to edit the genres?
 
I really enjoyed the original Cyberpunk 2020 tabletop. It had such a strong, traditional punk influence, unlike the game 2077. I still enjoyed the game but nothing beats the OG.

My favorite versions of the genre are the early pieces that came from the 80's - 90's. Akira, Johnny Mnemonic, Ghost in the Shell, etc. Some people consider Serial Experiments Lain (girl from my pfp) to be a Cyberpunk series. It has the makings of one - high tech/low life, a virtual world where people can be their true selves, aka "The Wired." If you haven't seen it already, I highly recommend it.
 
Cyberpunk is a high-tech aesthetic, most associated with computers and crazy internet shite, in which protagonists are often disaffected loners of one form or another (hence "punk"), because dystopia.
 
I really enjoyed the original Cyberpunk 2020 tabletop. It had such a strong, traditional punk influence, unlike the game 2077. I still enjoyed the game but nothing beats the OG.
Oh yea, for a time, CP2020 was my top RPG jam, and I did like it for it's acknowledgement of cool and style in a world where style is half the point.
Red is...fine. It does the job, but it doesn't quite have the oomph.
077 is likewise. It's not bad by any means, but it didn't wow me.

Cyberpunk 2077 is the only true attempt at this genre. It speaks truth to power.
Cruelty Squad did it better, IMO. It's satire that bites.
 
Cruelty Squad has big System Shock vibes

Cyberpunk fell into an aesthetic morass, since the genre was defined in the 80s there's this tendency to use all the styles from that period, so a lot of cyberpunk ends up as a retro future period piece.

Anything that deals with human nature and how its influenced by technology, especially network technology, is cyberpunk. The first season of Psychopass is pretty good, it's basically minority report but more aesthetic.
 
I've never been able to get into Cyberpunk as a genera, I loved the original Bladerunner as I thought it was a visual masterpiece with a very interesting story but I've never really gotten into the other parts of it something just fails to grab me, Having said that Tom Clancy dipped his toe into this with a book called Netforce Explorers I had as a kid and it was pretty entertaining but I'm not sure if that would count as it's rather to clean for the genera.
 
It's a dungeon and dragon's setting for guys who know two programming languages
 
big buildings and computers and neon lights and guns and
 
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