What supplements do you take?

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The majority of supplements don't do much, if anything. Creatine is one of the few shown to work, although it doesn't work for everyone. Caffeine is great for energy. Protein powder, while more of a food than supplement, is also nice for convenience. Fish oil is very likely helpful, too. I use protein powder for convenience and a pre-workout with caffeine (just because it tastes better than coffee).

Test boosters don't do shit unless they're pro-hormones (in which case just go on a damn cycle). Even if your test would get increased by 10% from these (spoiler: it won't even be close to that much, will likely be less than 1%), that would still be negligible when it comes to gains. A person with 800 ng/dl of test is considered high test. So even if you had high testosterone and got a 10% increase, it'd be 880 ng/dl. A 500 mg / week test cycle will get you above 3000.

Vitamins won't do anything unless you have a crappy diet. The other random crap won't work, either.

The only thing that will really make a big difference is going on a SARM or steroid cycle. The supplement industry is basically a modern day snake oil industry.
 
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I switched from the Plant Fusion keto protein to their regular protein, and so far have still been very happy. I was only getting the keto kind becasue (as I mentioned in my previous post) I got the first one for free, and it was very creamy and tasty. But if you're trying to be fat-concious it might not the best choice. The regular non-keto protein is still very good (especially if you mix it with some frozen banana) and you get a way bigger container for a better price, which is mainly why I made the switch.
Keto blend is 10g fat to 10g protein per 30g serving compared to the Complete Protein blend which is 3g fat and 21g protein per 30g serving. I've noticed a three pound drop in weight since the switch so I don't think I need quite that much fat!
 
I used to love this late 90s product called Metaform heat. It was an orangey protein shake packed with caffeine.
You'd get an instant flop sweat from drinking it.
Never found anything with that taste again.
 
My supplement stack is:
Zinc 60mg
Vitamin D 8000iu
Magnesium 400mg
Iodine 2mg
Creatine Monohydrate 5g
Boron 3mg
Shilajit 500mg
Mucuna Pruriens extract 1g
Milk thistle extract 2g
Collagen Peptides 3g
A multivitamin, protein powder after a workout, and I also micro-cycle Ashwaganda at 3g. Anything obvious I should add?
 
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I started intermittent fasting earlier this year and limiting myself to around 1500 calories a day with as many of those calories coming from actually nutritious foods as I can manage but just to be safe I started taking a walmart complete multivitamin to make sure I'm not missing out on anything. My blood tests from around the time I started showed me outside of the normal range for red blood cell count, like 1-2% low, close enough that my doctor didn't bother mentioning it, but I started taking iron as well and my latest test had me at 2-3% above the low range so I guess it worked

At some point I started biking a lot, 100-150 miles a week with as much as 40 in a single day (on a 35 pound bike and I'm still big myself) and 1500 calories wasn't cutting it to the point that I stopped losing weight entirely and my performance just got worse and worse every day. I started aiming for a net of 12-1500, rather than 1500 total, so 12-1500+whatever my app said I burned on my rides and my performance shot back up and I started losing again. The extra calories include a lot of Pure Protein brand whey protein powder. I've tried a couple of other brands and they're borderline inedible even mixed with milk but I enjoy both the vanilla and chocolate Pure Protein even with water or ideally unsweetened almond milk. It's also the cheapest so I assume it's not great but my muscles aren't wasting away even with the weight loss so I'll call it good enough

I mix in some wheat starch (Benefiber) and ground psyllium husk (no flavor/sweeteners) with the protein powder to make it more filling, a tablespoon each. It also makes it thicker which is nice as far as the texture goes. I like to let them sit in the fridge for a bit so the psyllium can gel if I have time. The psyllium is kind of bitter on its own but fine mixed in with the protein powder
 
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Fish oil
Magnesium glycinate / magnesium theonate
Bacopa monnieri
Agmatine sulfate
Taurine
Sunflower Letchin
B complex
Vitamin D

and 4 eggs for breakfast for choline
 
I take lots of Valerian root after giving up hard drugs, mellows me out a bit.
 
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The majority of supplements don't do much, if anything. Creatine is one of the few shown to work, although it doesn't work for everyone. Caffeine is great for energy. Protein powder, while more of a food than supplement, is also nice for convenience. Fish oil is very likely helpful, too. I use protein powder for convenience and a pre-workout with caffeine (just because it tastes better than coffee).

Test boosters don't do shit unless they're pro-hormones (in which case just go on a damn cycle). Even if your test would get increased by 10% from these (spoiler: it won't even be close to that much, will likely be less than 1%), that would still be negligible when it comes to gains. A person with 800 ng/dl of test is considered high test. So even if you had high testosterone and got a 10% increase, it'd be 880 ng/dl. A 500 mg / week test cycle will get you above 3000.

Vitamins won't do anything unless you have a crappy diet. The other random crap won't work, either.

The only thing that will really make a big difference is going on a SARM or steroid cycle. The supplement industry is basically a modern day snake oil industry.
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A personal trainer told me years ago all you need is protein powder, creatine and maybe caffeine. Everything else is shite.

He said when people were starting out and they're asking what supplements ts they should be on he said FUCKIN FOOD!
 
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Cloaca Rimjob said:
A personal trainer told me years ago all you need is protein powder, creatine and maybe caffeine. Everything else is shite.

He said when people were starting out and they're asking what supplements ts they should be on he said FUCKIN FOOD!
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I tried creatine, and I know it works for a lot of people, but for me it didn't do anything and just gave me the creatine shits after like a week.
 
Aside from creatine when I bother to pick it up at the store and a stim-free preworkout, I take magnesium because if you get ab cramps it works wonders.
 
•Men's multivitamin
•Iron
•L-lysine
•L-arginine
•Fish oil
•Oil of oregano
•Cinnamon
•Tumeric+black pepper
•Melatonin
•Whey protein
I'm aware that iron isn't essential for men typically but I don't eat much and I get my hematocrit checked often enough to know I have to supplement my intake. I'd caution people who aren't having their levels checked to be careful. Iron toxicity is a thing
 
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Omega 3
Green tea extract (It has studies on it and it is overall really good for health)
ZMA
Vit D3 + K
Ashwagandha
Creatine

Got a PWO I use on a regular basis, as it is quite cheap for the big doses of ingredients you get in it. As you need more than the micro doses in other brands for it to have effect. Not that I really have felt any difference, but it may do something in the long run? I overall believe supplements other than the well researched on are bs, and it would be cheaper to just take caffeine and L-theanine alone. It's just that PWO is kind of an exciting ritual to have

But biggest difference I have felt, is taking L-theanine with caffeine. As I just feel jittery, get a cold sweat, headache and dry eyes from caffeine alone. And yes, caffeine is really bad to take without an antioxidant, coffee mellows that out. But if you can't stand coffee like me, you have to supplement it.
(L-theanine is the "caffeine" in tea)

I do like my food quite spicy as well, might be a benefit there too.
 
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