What will it take for normie Americans to rise up and demand change?

[Michael Jacks0n]

This pretty much. When people don't know where their next meal is gonna come from they might actually start making noise. As disruptive as covid was, everyone mostly kept their creature comforts, so everyone mostly just put up with it.

I mean, we're already in hard times, and the media is in overdrive to pull every rabbit out of their small hats to pretend nothing is wrong and to deboonk any of our complaints. "Inflation may be scary, but it's actually good for you! High housing costs mean the economy is doing great! High gas prices is the cost of freedom -- you don't want Putin to win, do you!? So what if shelves are empty -- it's not Biden's fault! Can't afford anything right now? Sell your pet, get an abortion (while you still can), and start eating bugs! Afraid of a nuclear war? Well, according to the science, it might actually be beneficial to have a war with Russia! Have you or a loved one experienced heart-related issues from the Covid vaccine? Well it's better than being dead like Herman Cain!"

I can go on and on, but the fact that NYT is trying so hard to prop up Brandon's corpse and pretend like nothing is wrong is just truly telling how far they'll go to kick the can down the road. Poor, working-class Democrats can't afford to fill up their tanks to drive to their minimum wage jobs at Target, but they'll still proudly eat up and digest any slimy MSM article that downplays the severity of the gas prices or supply chain shortages. They'll also gladly retweet any cancerous tweet from chucklefuck socialist millionaires like George Takei or Mark Hamill who argue that paying high prices for gas is actually a good thing if it means defeating Putin, and if you can't afford it then tough shit -- buy a $40,000 Tesla (made from an evil racist apartheid Nazi like Elon Musk).

It's all so tiresome.

 

[L50LasPak]

They will, and the circumstance that is required to trigger it is actually not that exotic or unlikely.

Mass power outages. Comfort needs to go away? Boom. No more TV, no more vidya, no more computer, Hell no more AC and probably no more heat unless you've got one of those oldschool thermostats that doesn't need electricity to run. And after a day or two no more refrigeration, and by then your cell phone is probably dead too because of its massive battery hogging screen that I'm willing to bet the average normie doesn't turn the brightness down for. That's assuming an area-wide power outage doesn't take out the cell towers too.

In the United States, this country is fantastically vulnerable to power infrastructure sabotage. There's relatively little security protecting power stations from attackers or infiltrators for the simple fact that there's tons of them and good luck staffing all of those places. Right now some drunk could ram his car into a substation and knock out power for most of the area for at least a day, possibly longer. Some redneck with a pump shotgun or a hunting rifle could go down the street knocking out transformers. People hellbent on making life miserable for everyone with a little more ingenuity could cut underground cables that are orders of magnitude more difficult to fix. Electricians and technicians are also in pretty short supply these days since not very many younger people were entering the field and quite a few of the old fucks have since retired, so if it gets knocked out on any large scale it'll take that much longer to fix it.

Even better, your government, and the corrupt corporations they hire to handle all of this shit, are working right now to make it even easier for an interloper to deprive you of electricity. Power systems across the country are going on internet-connected grids that can be freely hacked by anyone who's willing to bother. Assuming shit as simple as a faulty software update or a regular computer virus doesn't likewise knock them out.

There's also nothing at all in place in this country's electrical and business regulations to prevent another Enron-level situation where a company is simply so corrupt that they deliberately cut power production and transportation just to save a few bucks here and there and leave huge swathes of the countryside and even major cities in the dark for days or weeks or however long they care to dick around with people's lives. Stuff like renewable energy shortfalls and the rising expense of petroleum are sure to make Enron 2: Electric Boogaloo a reality in a couple of decades.

You want people to get pissed off? Two or three days of sitting in the dark will remind them just how powerless they are, both literally and figuratively. Its pretty much inevitable at this point too. If some bunch of shit stirrers don't knock out the infrastructure, a foreign power could through hacking, and if a foreign power doesn't hack us our very own business interests are guaranteed to fuck it up sooner or later.

 

[Thiletonomics]

It would take Sri Lanka-levels of financial collapse and food shortages, and Venezuela-levels of hyperinflation (not just the current inflation right now), and gas shortages. And even then, it may not be enough.

 

[murph]

Texas and California regularly have power "brownouts".

There's a two month shortage of baby formula going on right now.

People in general are comfortable. They have roofs, they have beds, for the most part, they aren't starving or homeless, unless they're crazy or drug addicted, or otherwise refuse help.

There is not going to be a boogaloo in our lifetimes outside of a truly dangerous black-plague level extinction crisis, or nuclear war.

Sleep well.

 

[L50LasPak]

Texas and California regularly have power "brownouts".

That's literally not even a full blackout. The two situations aren't even remotely comparable.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Americans have had it better than any nation in history, and the simple reason why Americans haven't risen up is because we expect the current misery and insanity (since 2020 and to a lesser degree since 200 is just a blip in our continued prosperity. Every generation in US history has had it better than the last (besides maybe whites born in the 1830s South) until Zoomers and later millennials, and we're just beginning to see the ramifications societally of what it means to have a generation be poorer than their parents.

A simple metric for revolution is people's expectations for what the government will give them begin to far outstrip what the government is actually giving them. You see this for instance in 1980s Eastern Europe where communism just wasn't giving them shit compared to the 50s/60s where communism looked to be competing well with capitalism in giving people stuff. But even then it took over a decade of increased poverty and repression before people just said "fuck it" and overthrew the governments there. Americans are going to keep putting up with this shit for a while, but the tension's going to keep growing.

There's also a lot of lingering respect for our institutions and belief that our politicians/our votes will fix things. Like let's keep in mind that even after 2020, a lot of people are still big on Blue Lives Matter, even if it's not as strong a sentiment as it was. Worst of all, people seem genuinely scared of them which is deliberate (the FBI requires all portrayals of them in film/TV to be positive i.e. propaganda and it is literally illegal if you do not and still use any likeness of their logo, uniforms, etc.). People overrate their capabilities and what they can do to you, even though it's mostly just inertial bureaucratic bullshit they'll subject you to given that after every mass shooting (or even bombing) they come out and say "the suspect was known to the FBI."

I don't think you'll need these conditions to continue for another 15-20 years and have all sorts of blatant outrages committed against Americans and repeated American failures globally. But I think you'll probably see some incredible chaos in that time.

In the United States, this country is fantastically vulnerable to power infrastructure sabotage. There's relatively little security protecting power stations from attackers or infiltrators for the simple fact that there's tons of them and good luck staffing all of those places. Right now some drunk could ram his car into a substation and knock out power for most of the area for at least a day, possibly longer. Some redneck with a pump shotgun or a hunting rifle could go down the street knocking out transformers. People hellbent on making life miserable for everyone with a little more ingenuity could cut underground cables that are orders of magnitude more difficult to fix. Electricians and technicians are also in pretty short supply these days since not very many younger people were entering the field and quite a few of the old fucks have since retired, so if it gets knocked out on any large scale it'll take that much longer to fix it.

If you had a terrorist going around knocking out power, it would probably take a while to catch them (the DC snipers were outright killing people on busy roads in the suburbs and it took over three weeks to arrest them) but I don't know how big of impact they'd have. After major hurricanes they send power crews from across the country so they could keep the outages to a minimum (although this does cost a lot of money). After the first few attacks, authorities would catch on and send in both more electricians and have state troopers/probably feds patrolling around substations. Now if you had 100 terrorists doing this in the 100 largest metro areas, that might be cause for concern. Especially if sabotaging substations becomes a meme like livestreaming mass shootings.

 

[L50LasPak]

Especially if sabotaging substations becomes a meme like livestreaming mass shootings.

That, or we could potentially end up with an Africa-like situation where people regularly disable electrical equipment so they can raid the copper wiring from it. If enough people start doing it then it would be almost impossible to prevent.

 

[Ser Prize]

2020 was literally worse than '68 ever could have hoped to be and fuck all happened. In a single year we got:

• Fraud Overblown Pandemic
• Rigged Elections
• Riots
• Supply Chain Shortages
• The ongoing destruction of the Global Economy

And that was just a single year, now we have War in Europe, crazy inflation, and gas prices are going up so fast even I'm feeling it (and I don't own a car!) so basically, we're fucked.

Really speedrunning the 20th century %

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Normie Americans are useless cattle and deserve the Hell they’ve made for themselves. Any empathy I had for them died out over the past two-ish years. I just want to laugh it up while they suffer.

 

[gang weeder]

I mean, we're already in hard times, and the media is in overdrive to pull every rabbit out of their small hats to pretend nothing is wrong and to deboonk any of our complaints. "Inflation may be scary, but it's actually good for you! High housing costs mean the economy is doing great! High gas prices is the cost of freedom -- you don't want Putin to win, do you!? So what if shelves are empty -- it's not Biden's fault! Can't afford anything right now? Sell your pet, get an abortion (while you still can), and start eating bugs! Afraid of a nuclear war? Well, according to the science, it might actually be beneficial to have a war with Russia! Have you or a loved one experienced heart-related issues from the Covid vaccine? Well it's better than being dead like Herman Cain!"

I can go on and on, but the fact that NYT is trying so hard to prop up Brandon's corpse and pretend like nothing is wrong is just truly telling how far they'll go to kick the can down the road. Poor, working-class Democrats can't afford to fill up their tanks to drive to their minimum wage jobs at Target, but they'll still proudly eat up and digest any slimy MSM article that downplays the severity of the gas prices or supply chain shortages. They'll also gladly retweet any cancerous tweet from chucklefuck socialist millionaires like George Takei or Mark Hamill who argue that paying high prices for gas is actually a good thing if it means defeating Putin, and if you can't afford it then tough shit -- buy a $40,000 Tesla (made from an evil racist apartheid Nazi like Elon Musk).

It's all so tiresome.

We haven't hit true hard times yet. They put the money printer into overdrive to stave it off. We're starting to feel the effects of it now with inflation, but the economy isn't even fully into recession yet.

 

[Idiotron]

There's a reason you don't see your local starving homeless hobos organizing to overthrow the government.

Yeah because they're a <1% minority and they would get stomped.
But what if it gets to a point where the homeless are 20%+ of the nation and you have literally tens of millions of people sleeping on the streets?
You really think they would just sit there and do nothing?

If 100 people go to the Hollywood hills to rob some actor, you call the cops.
If 200k people go to the Hollywood hills to kick the actors out and live in their houses, what will the government do? Nuke LA?

Americans think they've experienced poverty and struggle over the last few years but they have no idea how actual struggle feels like.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

America is too atomized, spiritually/mentally drained and overall consumeristic to do such a thing until shit absolutely hits the fan. Like people dropping dead left and right levels of SHTF. To be quite honest though, this shit all started in the '50s and really we're in the main stage where society goes to hell because our institutions have been rotting from the inside for a while and society at large has lost its sense of direction, morally, spiritually and intellectually. It's going to take at least a century to fix the upcoming mess and hopefully our descendants record what we did wrong and don't repeat it.

Look at the correlation between the fall of Occupy Wall Street and the rise of woke identity politics: the crossover is shocking. Hell, look at the GameStop superstonk thing from last year: the left and right briefly joined forces to take on kike fuckery, but the Boomer media like CNN, MSNBC, and Jimmy Kimmel denounced r/WallStreetBets and compared them to the alt-right, Russian hackers, January 6, and whatever the hell other boogeymen they could think of. Femoids like Taylor Lorenz and Brianna Wu even attacked WSB over them being mostly white men. They unironically simped for big banks and told the little Davids taking on Goliath that they were evil and ignorant.

The minute both the right and left organize to fight back against the powers that be, the mainstream media will sling shit and nip it in the bud. Too many white working class male protestors? The movement now has a diversity problem and will be branded as a far-right insurrectionist attack. Some random Southerners protest whilst decked out in confederate flags? The movement is officially blatantly racist and now Charlottesville 2.0. The movement draws in BLM and ANTIFA fuckery? No one on the right would be caught dead marching side by side with them*. The (((media))) will cherry-pick everything I mention and further cause division.

*Mitt Romney doesn't count.

You're right but:
>Brianna Wu
>Femoid
Oh nonononononono

 

[mario if smoke weed]

You get rid of air conditioning and you'll have a bunch of pissed off southerners, especially in California and Florida.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

You're right but:
>Brianna Wu
>Femoid
Oh nonononononono

Well, to be fair, the suffix -oid means "resembling" -- such as humanoid, android, cryptoid, etc., so in this context, Brianna Wu kinda almost resembles a woman in an offputting uncanny sort of way. When I first discovered Wu amidst GamerGate, I didn't realize they were a troon right off the bat. I just thought they were an ugly woman with a strange cadence to their speech, like something that wasn't human but trying to act human.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

I think we're currently a powderkeg. Each day we light matches but they all land in a bucket of water. One day, it won't land in the water. Normies won't do shit but I think that extremists will go on a rampage. It's quite concerning. After that, the normies will just want security. And I mean fair enough.

 

[MadStan]

I am honestly in the total dark. Around here after everyone got vaccinated (well, most of us), we just moved on. I haven't seen a mask or problems for a good while now.

In regards to economics, I haven't seen anything unfold that is unexpected either.

The entire globe in going through elastic crunches from supply shock and will for quite some time.

I'm not seeing anything overly unexpected in the environment with the exception of Russia's choice to go into the Ukraine as they did - or should I say how they did.

 

[A-Stump]

Life is super comfortable for the vast majority of people in the US. The only people who feel they need to ask that question are those who are so enabled in their comfort they need to find reasons to get even pissier than they usually are because life is so humdrum and boring. Most shitty nations require you to work so hard for two hours of electricity a night and a bowl of rice that you don't even have the energy to question the situation.

Hard facts but thems the breaks

 

[Fougaro]

What will it take for Americans to rise up and demand change?

Realistically, the government would have to either axe the welfare or oops an unironic famine into existence.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

As long as there’s twinkies on the shelves and an autistic white mass shooter on the tv screen to distract away from all other issues, we’re gonna be just fine. The regime is sustainable due to advances in tech (high yield farming, mass surveillance, mass media social control)

I give it 3 gens before shit gets a little more “interesting”

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Realistically, the government would have to either axe the welfare or oops an unironic famine into existence.

They're pulling the plug on "emergency allotment" snap this summer.

Starting in March 2020, people who qualify for any amount of SNAP have gotten the maximum for their family size. So someone who normally would have gotten $40 per month has been getting more like $250. For over two years now. Most states are still doing it. It comes in from the feds as long as your state declaration of coof emergency is still in place.

The whole program is almost certainly ending in July due to funding and coof having been thrown off the back of the train like a mob hit victim. Most people will get at most 3-4 weeks warning that their enhanced benefits will be going away.

Meanwhile, what cost $40 at the grocery store in 2019 now costs closer to $70.

Yeah yeah yeah everyone likes to poke at the stupid dumb proles who take handouts from the government. "lol lmao learn to code moron lol niggers." But if you do, if you just sneer from your place of self-assured comfort you're missing a whole lot of points. This has the potential to cause a catastrophe that makes the 2008 crisis look like a day at the beach.