What would a modern American insurgency look like? - Playing armchair general in the Autistic Thunderdome

[wtfNeedSignUp]

With how divided the USA is, any "popular" insurgency will be just a plain civil war or a state breaking up ties with its neighbours.

A minority committing insurgency will completely depend if they can serve the country's elites in some fashion. If yes then it would be like BLM - they'll be supported until they have achieved enough and then they'd be discarded. An insurgency that will not go with the elites will be simply memory holed and acted against in extreme prejudice, and will also highly likely disintegrate by the leadership having differing goal and accusations of being a fed.

Basically every attempt is fucked. You'd need a huge amount of men that care enough about the future but are willing to lose everything (which is an extremely in short supply) and the government to ignore you until you garnered enough support.

And in the end of the day you need to compete with the fact that simply moving to a better state/country is an infinitely easier and less risky action.

 

[biozeminadae1]

And in the end of the day you need to compete with the fact that simply moving to a better state/country is an infinitely easier and less risky action.

When all states become the same, where do you go then?

 

[xQc]

If it was a liberal revolution it would just be CHAZ again.
The US Government would once again wait for them to start chimping out on each other because niggas and incorrect pronouns.
Then move in and potentially do arrests or weapon seizures.
If it was a conservative revolution it would just be WACO again.
Immediately surrounded and fired on.

 

[Butterschmalz]

no insurgency. the insurgents will just "not show up" which is kinda required for a violent revolution....

 

[Ronnie McNutt]

before i contribute to this thread, i would like to say that i love israel, US government, joe biden, the jewish people and think all goyim should burn in hell etc etc

now we got the glowniggers out of the way, a potential insurgency could happen due to how divided the US is politically, remember 2016 election chimpouts? and how they ruined mainstream politics for decades to come? when their factions are angered enough (when derek knee'd floyd) then they will strike back, if something major happens that conservatives HATE (like censoring them, getting rid of the 2nd amendment) they also will strike back. january 6th was just a response to the election results in 2020 and claiming how it was "rigged", if you manage to anger both factions they will conflict and a potential civil war could ignite

 

[Wormy]

Fuck Israel. Fuck the US government. Fuck Biden and his milquetoast false liberal ass. Non Israeli Jews are cool though.

With that out of the way, I'm flattered that you guys think every single southerner and rural yokel is a badass Daryl Dixon type sniper who can grow all his own food, maintain his own sanitation, provide power off the grid, and generally be a mix of John Rambo, Johnny Appleseed and Jim Bridger.

We aren't.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

It really depends upon the ideological framework of the rebels. I think that'd dictate how exactly they wage things. With that said, I think that an insurgency would be idiotic and should be avoided. Look, am I 100% happy with the government? No. Would I like to see some serious structural changes that I know are not going to happen under the current status quo? Absolutely. But an insurgency is really the measure of last resort. It would be morally wrong for anyone to mount an insurgency at the moment. It would also be an extremely bloody affair. I know that this is probably glowposting but for God's sake an insurgency is a terrible idea.

 

[Chi-com Soldier]

an insurgency is a terrible idea

Unless you win.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

Unless you win.

No. Listen, I once used to be like you. I was praying for God to bring the boogaloo but upon further thought I have come to realize that it would accomplish nothing and would just be a waste of bloodshed. There is no winning.

 

[Chi-com Soldier]

No. Listen, I once used to be like you.

Lol, doubt. I don't want or support an American insurgency and never have, you mong.

I have come to realize that it would accomplish nothing and would just be a waste of bloodshed. There is no winning.

Tell that to the Taliban.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

Tell that to the Taliban.

The US can’t pull out of itself so that’s a bad comparison.

 

[Chi-com Soldier]

The US can’t pull out of itself so that’s a bad comparison.

Then tell the founding fathers.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

Then tell the founding fathers.

America was a colony. Look, you clearly don’t understand history.

 

[Chi-com Soldier]

America was a colony. Look, you clearly don’t understand history.

You clearly don't know what "insurgency " is.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

You clearly don't know what "insurgency " is.

I do. I’m not saying that an insurgency wouldn’t do any damage but I don’t think you understand just how hard the government would crack down and how much of an incentive there would be to not give up.

 

[Meat Target]

No. Listen, I once used to be like you. I was praying for God to bring the boogaloo but upon further thought I have come to realize that it would accomplish nothing and would just be a waste of bloodshed. There is no winning.

People who clamor for the Boog, more often than not, have no idea what they're asking for, and are embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Violence, even when 100% justified, is a hideous thing. And you are not Rambo just because you can shoot stationary paper targets. People you love will die. You will, in all likelihood, die. Even if you don't physically, the scars will follow you for the rest of your days (and that's assuming you don't end up in Leavenworth).

You had better be 1000% sure that political violence is the only way you, your loved ones, and your posterity can survive.

There's also a difference between thinking something will happen and preparing accordingly, and actively wanting it to happen. I don't want a tornado, but I have a plan to take shelter if it happens.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

People who clamor for the Boog, more often than not, have no idea what they're asking for, and are embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Violence, even when 100% justified, is a hideous thing. And you are not Rambo just because you can shoot stationary paper targets. People you love will die. You will, in all likelihood, die. Even if you don't physically, the scars will follow you for the rest of your days (and that's assuming you don't end up in Leavenworth).

You had better be 1000% sure that political violence is the only way you, your loved ones, and your posterity can survive.

There's also a difference between thinking something will happen and preparing accordingly, and actively wanting it to happen. I don't want a tornado, but I have a plan to take shelter if it happens.

Exactly this. Furthermore in all reality such a thing would lead to so much fracturing. I don't think that the political bonds of convenience formed by let's say white liberals and moderate to conservative blacks would hold in such a situation. It would be so unpredictable.

 

[Free the Pedos]

When all states become the same, where do you go then?

In all seriousness, buy a bug-out trailer in the woods and keep your rifle by your side.

Fuck Israel. Fuck the US government. Fuck Biden and his milquetoast false liberal ass. Non Israeli Jews are cool though.

With that out of the way, I'm flattered that you guys think every single southerner and rural yokel is a badass Daryl Dixon type sniper who can grow all his own food, maintain his own sanitation, provide power off the grid, and generally be a mix of John Rambo, Johnny Appleseed and Jim Bridger.

We aren't.

Certainly there are plenty of red-faced 300 lbs sedentary Bubbas in the south, but the vast majority of people who could maybe possibly survive in such a world are rural, though not necessarily southern.

I don't hope for the boogaloo, but I stupidly pray for peaceful secessionist movements in the future. Not that the Feds would ever allow it.

 

[Farmer John]

The US government is still the best form of government in my opinion, self governance is important and isn't practiced as successfully or extensively anywhere else.

There just happens to be a major disconnect between the idea and the reality right now, has been for a while and doesn't look to be resolving itself any time soon. A unified and organized uprising of the population is one of the only legitimate threats to it, and this is why it is more than happy to drive a wedge between groups of the population.

If and when two opposing groups of the population are large enough and active at the same time is when the dark days come. I don't see us becoming unified or organized enough to be a threat to the government, but we can fuck ourselves up plenty good before the government can figure out what to do about it. The US government then finds itself trying to govern the ungovernable, it was enough to make the British empire fuck off back to it's island. What our government will do is up in the air, hard to even guess without knowing the parties involved or their motivations and the actions they are willing to take.

What I do know is this, Americans are a rowdy bunch... and God it's fun being one....

 

[Wormy]

Certainly there are plenty of red-faced 300 lbs sedentary Bubbas in the south, but the vast majority of people who could maybe possibly survive in such a world are rural, though not necessarily southern.

Okay, now that does make sense. Just remember that the vast majority of the rurals won't survive either.
We'll last longer than the bugmen, granted, but still not that long...