What's the endgame for current year troonery?

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The wheels are going to come off the thing sooner or later, so what's the breaking point going to be?

I think it might be the fact that so many young women in certain social circles are trooning out, and some of them are inevitably going to back off it at some point. The soccer moms, who are also the people most pressured to support this shit, are going to realize it's just a phase for some kids.

Any other ideas?
 
I believe we will see a sort of suicide wave in the next 5 to 10 years, as the medical systems and society struggle to assist people who have either had GRS or have been on hormone blockers for the majority of there formative years, it will probably be if it does happen one of our worst generational disasters yet
 
The wheels aren't gonna come off.

Society has reached a point where disagreement with the orthodoxy equals "exile" from the community. Those liberal "love is love, trust the science, etc" soccer moms aren't gonna rise up or whatever. At best laws will be passed to prevent children from taking hormones in sane communities. As in red or right leaning states/countries.

However the existence of trans people, children included, will not go away. The tranny menace is here to stay.
 
The elimination of all penises. Their goal seems to be putting an end to masculinity as we know it, so being a heterosexual cisgender male will be seen as intolerant in itself. "Why aren't you wearing a dress? TRANSPHOBE!" Manly men will have to stay separate from the general public because the troons can't handle it and society will bend to cater to their whims. We're already halfway there, so it seems like the logical next step.
 
Speaking as someone who has a FtM Troon as a brother, it has to be like Afghanistan. Word Magic is a manner of speaking determined by a belief that the very act of uttering a word directly affects the person or thing that the word refers to. It is like when a group or a person relentlessly controls the narrative, push a series of terms and assertions about the world, and manage to hold the public's belief in that the facts cannot be readily found out so the lie cannot be overcome. The Soviet Union believed that they were going to make it even in the early to mid 1980s when just about everyone knew on some level that they were no closer to a classless anarchy of a worker's paradise then they were in the 1940's after the war. Afghanistan was said to be capable and possessing a strong army with progressive female politicians at the local mayoral level up to the federal level in 1/3 of the Afghan Youth Parliament in Kabul who were said to represent the future after America left. Chernobyl and the Fall of Kabul ended the horseshit of Moscow's and Washington's Word Magic.

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Something drastic, like the MtF open wounds requiring a medication which fatally renders COVID more of a lethal disease or the lovely "vaginal antifungals" are found to be carcinogenic. Some collapse of the narrative causing a domino effect until the Word Magic is revealed to have been hopeful nonsense the whole time, that the "gender is a social construct" was ironically a social construct the whole time. The question is what form will the collapse likely take? Perhaps the 1/3 failure rate of the "gender affirming" surgeries and the horror stories? I don't think so, if only because describing the ER visits and the discovery of exposed pelvic walls of bone inside a supposed vagina covered in a polycellular slime of necrotizing bacteria slowly killing the MtF is too much for most people. They can't make the words come out, its too much. That the pregnancy ultrasound equipment is useless in diagnosing the MtF's fake cunt as the fakery of the Jewish ex-"High and tight circumcision" surgeons' work is pure experimental horror and improvisation. The mere suggestion that circumcision surgeons, who done with their egg-dick mutilating have turned to the gentile and thoughtfully offered further optional genital worsenings, are the primary troon surgery docs turns most people away.

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Otherwise something on the order of environmental or economic collapse would need to happen in order to remove the excess of wealth within the West which allows such insane personal degenerations to be believed to be sustainable. People who experience actual want and suffering do not play these fetish games of victimhood and affirmation.

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I believe we will see a sort of suicide wave in the next 5 to 10 years, as the medical systems and society struggle to assist people who have either had GRS or have been on hormone blockers for the majority of there formative years, it will probably be if it does happen one of our worst generational disasters yet

It's going to be bad. Especially for the ones whose parents started trooning them out as toddlers. That poor boy whose father tried to save him from his attention whore mother could end up like that unless he finally rebels on his own.

Parents wanting attention for themselves by trooning out kids too young to understand is the absolute most horrifying aspect of this. There was an article on A&N about a family that was all trans. Sounds like grooming to me.
 
There's not going to be a breaking point until society evolves new mechanisms that fulfill the roles currently played by transgenderism. Among them are:
  • Allowing mobility on the progressive stack. Transgenderism is one of the few high-ranking positions that you can choose.
    Potential alternatives: abolition of the progressive stack; elevating the status of other elective identities like low-effort nonbinary, "aromantic", etc.
  • Providing an opt-out for gender roles. Transgenderism is the strongest means offered by goodthinking society for people dissatisfied with their conventional gender role to choose another one.
    Potential alternatives: abolishing or broadening gender roles; popularizing "third genders" that are not transgender; raising children to be more comfortable in their gender roles.
  • Giving misfits a do-over. For schoolchildren this can mean love-bombing by a new circle of friends plus ironclad immunity to bullying; for adults it can be a chance to discard a failed life and start a new one.
    Potential alternatives: raise fewer misfits; make society more accepting of misfits (or misfits more accepting of their lot); create other "do-over" rituals that don't involve transgenderism. ("Born again"?)
  • The whole fetish thing. We'll always have these people.
    Potential mitigations: strongly discourage coomerism; raise people who can at least manage to have some sort of real-world sexual experience.
  • Virtue signaling: goodthinkers can demonstrate their bona fides by being a vocal proponent of transgenderism.
    Potential mitigations: replace transgender with a different "top victim" identity; redirect goodthinkers to a new "villain" without a strong gender politics angle.
  • Profit: various members of the medical establishment make money off of medical transition.
    Potential mitigations: promote zero-effort troonery over medical transition; regulate or forbid these medical practices; drive out the profit motive by promoting "self-help" and having government manufacture drugs and provide services below cost.
Unless you have replacements for all these and more, transgenderism isn't going anywhere.
 
Here's some of my unusual take when it comes to troonery endgame. The whole concept of transgenderism in the West, is someone who get body modifications to be seen as the opposite sex. Under the society agreed upon rule of supplanting the lie that someone is 'actually' the opposite sex, if they stray away of gender roles and norms too far.

The thing is, it only worked in the decades past because trannies were rare, most people didn't know about trannies, nor they knew about the subtle difference between male and female anatomy without the cultural signifiers such as dress code and mannerism. A woman can crossdress as a man and worked as a doctor for several years without anyone suspecting that was a woman back in the 1800s - but now a woman who dress mannish will be immediately clocked as a woman. Societal heuristics we use to determine someone's sex is a very cultural.. but physical differences are very real, just overlooked.

And so, Ironically, the more trannies we have in the world, the harder for them to pass due to exposure alone, regardless of how beautiful or well behaving they could be - because eventually you can't hide biology. Many troons have voiced the worry that they're clocked all the time in places like LA - because people have already built the heuristics for spotting troons. They know what to look for.
In Thailand, trannies as we know in the west don't exists anymore because we've got so many of them they became the 'third gender' due to everyone being able to spot one.

FtMs are harder to clock now because they used to be much rarer, but at one point they'll just be seen as women on roids, just as women with short hair in suit and large overcoat isn't a man.

Even if there's no backlash, their own expansion will be their own demise.
 
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The ultimate goal seems to be rendering men and women both into a mass of confused androgyny.

Troons and their intellectual backers hate one thing above all else, and that is “gender essentialism”-the notion that yes there are inbuilt elements, or markers of gender that are not socially constructed or imposed via prejudice.

I’ve noticed a lot of troons put hope that technology will allow for “trans men” to have children. Such an advance would serve to discredit the essence of femininity being one of child birth and fertility.

Eventually they seem to hope that everyone will be a disgusting inter sex hermaphrodite. Or at least the majority of the population will be in some form or another.
 
Everyone is right about abolishing masculinity etc. But the real goal is depopulation. It's not the only means but it's gonna be a big part. Trick confused kids and teens or have narcissistic whorebag "mothers" do it to them for attention. I predict the biggest demographic to fall for it will be White gentiles. We're already down to 12% of world population and that's being propped up by boomers. I give it 10 years and Whites in the US will be below 50% and it all goes to hell.

Part of it was the broader medical industry wanting a permanent customer base for multiple, lucrative products and procedures, but then they came up with the current plan of turning your immune system into a subscription service with mRNA jabs.
 
I don't think there will be one.

There will undoubtedly be a wave of suicides and lawsuits coming down the line. But, like detransition stories and suicide statistics today, those stories will be swept out of view from the general public. There's a lot of money to be made from transgender patients - funding will continue to pour in, scientific advancements made around surgery, new medication, etc. They'll continue to frame the story positively, they'll continue to dominate any conversation they find themselves in proximity to.

I honestly don't think there's any way back. I don't know what the world will look like after half a dozen decades of this, but my instinct isn't good. The erosion of gender relations since the 60s didn't really play out too well either, I don't know why people would assume this is ever going away.
 
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