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Don't marry the first whore that touches your pp
What’s the point of marriage if it’s going to go to shit anyway?
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Marriage means I have a permanent Waldorf to my Statler. Husbands and wives should be one another’s *accomplices*. Everything you say, do, try, desire, invest in, waste time and energy pursuing...all to support the common cause: your marriage, and any children produced within.
Please consider this description of a successful heterosexual marriage, as observed by a Jewish homosexual in NYC in 1970:
Please consider this description of a successful heterosexual marriage, as observed by a Jewish homosexual in NYC in 1970:
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They still do that.
That's in fact the stated reason for the push for no-fault divorce back when it was taking off in the States, but (presumably) nobody ever thought about what happens when the prospects of alimony, child custody, and child support are on the line.
Family court is reportedly a wretched hive.
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Marriage ensures transfer of hard earned assets and wealth upon death, often with tax breaks to minimise loss to the state. Also ensures children are looked after by clearly defined people upon death of one or both parents, avoiding leaving them to the tender mercies of the state.
People bitch and snivel about marriage being shit, but it's often the people who are trash, and any relationship they have would be trash.
Women martyr themselves to perpetual brats who are incapable, and have learned through their mothers that being useless at chores will mean a woman swoops in and fixes it and does it for them. Women have learned that they can "change" men for the better by nagging. Additionally, women know that a baby ties a man to them forever.
Marriage is fine. It's the people entering into it, often obsessed with an obscenely expensive day they'll go into for, using money they don't have, to buy shit they don't need, to impress people only there for the free bar, to show off, and it sets them off on totally the wrong foot.
Additionally, people rarely discuss the important stuff before entering into it. When it comes to the practicals, love is NOT ENOUGH. You need shared beliefs and ideas and a willingness to compromise.
People bitch and snivel about marriage being shit, but it's often the people who are trash, and any relationship they have would be trash.
Women martyr themselves to perpetual brats who are incapable, and have learned through their mothers that being useless at chores will mean a woman swoops in and fixes it and does it for them. Women have learned that they can "change" men for the better by nagging. Additionally, women know that a baby ties a man to them forever.
Marriage is fine. It's the people entering into it, often obsessed with an obscenely expensive day they'll go into for, using money they don't have, to buy shit they don't need, to impress people only there for the free bar, to show off, and it sets them off on totally the wrong foot.
Additionally, people rarely discuss the important stuff before entering into it. When it comes to the practicals, love is NOT ENOUGH. You need shared beliefs and ideas and a willingness to compromise.
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FTFY. Love is enough, but I reckon many couples don't even know what "love" is.
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50% thing is misleading, your chances of divorce for your first marriage are between 30-40% depending on the study. That's still a 60-70% chance of staying together, not bad. And you can reduce your odds of being one of those divorce cases. I'd recommend premarital counselling, it should be mandatory really. Also your odds of divorce go down drastically if you postpone your first marriage until you're around 25 years old.
By the way, studies consistently show that married men report higher levels of happiness and have better health outcomes throughout life. Here: https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health
By the way, studies consistently show that married men report higher levels of happiness and have better health outcomes throughout life. Here: https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health
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There are legitimate grievances that people have with marriage as an institution, at least here in the US. If you have children and you're going through a divorce there will be a small hat somewhere in the mix badgering your soon to be ex-wife, poking and prying for any reason at all that could be used to deny you access to your kids. Your finances being tied up with someone else's are the least of your worries at that point. Dumbass baby boomer relatives also have a nasty habit of pressuring younger generations into taking out loans to have extravagant weddings that are outside of their means, driving new families into debt.
It's garbage all the way down and I don't blame people for turning their noses up at marriage.
It's garbage all the way down and I don't blame people for turning their noses up at marriage.
CAPTAIN HAPPY
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If marriage is so bad, why do the gays want it so much even though when they get it, they score in divorce and domestic abuse stats?
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What is it with Protestants and divorces? All my English mates seem to either be the child of, or consistently of the opinion that they can have kids "with their ex" - can someone please explain why the hell you would marry somebody with the mindset that you're going to get divorced later on?
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Stop romanticizing marriage.
Marriage has never been about love or loyalty. Marriage is an economic contract. Did you know that with today's economy it takes 2 people's income to be able to successfully survive in a modern city? See the value of rent of a basic apartment plus the cost of food and bills. It's impossible to do it alone.
And even if one of the two has a large enough income to sustain a family, someone still needs to be in charge of the domestic economy. This mechanic is as old as time and goes back to our prehistoric ancestors. Back in the day marriage was just made to join wealthy families and ensure a good dinasty.
And that's the point of marriage, my child.
Marriage has never been about love or loyalty. Marriage is an economic contract. Did you know that with today's economy it takes 2 people's income to be able to successfully survive in a modern city? See the value of rent of a basic apartment plus the cost of food and bills. It's impossible to do it alone.
And even if one of the two has a large enough income to sustain a family, someone still needs to be in charge of the domestic economy. This mechanic is as old as time and goes back to our prehistoric ancestors. Back in the day marriage was just made to join wealthy families and ensure a good dinasty.
And that's the point of marriage, my child.
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I think a more accurate diagnosis is that in a world where women are factually married to the state instead to their husbands, men are kinda SOL.
DumbDude42
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yeah i guess the billions of people who have lived with illegal adultery and kept it that way for thousands of years were all just massive losers with no clue about anything lol
mind boggling levels of arrogance on display right there
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odd perspective for a foid
Lina Colorado
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Lol in my country, people make a few kids first and if it worked out, THEN they get married. Topsy turvy, all of it... but that's how it is here.
No one is really religious here anyways so they don't care about the spiritual side of anything.
Make sure you actually have something in common before you engage in coitus much less marriage. That would solve alot of dumb problems.
No one is really religious here anyways so they don't care about the spiritual side of anything.
Make sure you actually have something in common before you engage in coitus much less marriage. That would solve alot of dumb problems.
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being in a loving marriage with the right woman/man is probably the best thing anyone could ask for.
I'm tired of this psyop against marriage. People want kids. People want wives/husbands. Just because the stats are inflated due to urbanites/niggers/whatever doesn't mean you can't still find someone worth marrying.
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Marriage isn't always for everyone but the fact that it can confer benefits and legal rights above next of kin in the event of a death are not to be taken lightly. Had my late brother-in-law been married to the mother of his children then she would've recieved survivor's benefits like the kids on top of being the ultimate say in the disposition of his remains.
She wasn't though so she's out of luck on the benefits and the funeral planning was a righteous clusterfuck thanks to all of my wife's siblings and mother-in-law having a say.
As an aside, if you're ever unsure of the value of life insurance and/or a will then plan a funeral for someone with neither, you'll change your tune right fucking quick.
Beyond that, marriage should only be entertained with skepticism. Choosing a spouse isn't easy. Remember that you're expected to live with this person 24/7/365 for the rest of your life. Something about your partner that annoys you now can and will annoy you 10 years into the marriage. Hash that out before you merge your lives together. Also avoid amalgamating your finances. Having a joint account is fine so long as either party retains their own personal accounts but having only a joint account is stupid and dangerous.
Know the difference between love and infatuation if you're intent on marrying for love. Love takes its time and is gentle whereas infatuation is fast and thrilling. In the same way, the candle that burns twice as bright burns twice as fast; marriages based on infatuation crash and burn more often and more spectacularly than love based ones. Ideally your spouse should compliment your personality and you should compliment theirs.
Marrying for money is trashy unless you come from a culture that still practices arranged marriages, in which case your folks are trashy. You will also have to learn to care for this complete stranger you're now foisted onto/had foisted onto you.
Marrying to take responsibility for a bastard child is, while a good thing, the result of poor decision making. To the bachelor Kiwis, wrap it before you tap it. To the much rarer bachelorette Kiwis, don't put out so easily. If you can't see yourself settling down with a sexual partner then suffer using condoms and spermicide. Don't bring a child into this world and get ye olde shotgun wedding arranged just because you needed to coom.
Thank you for attending my TED talk.
She wasn't though so she's out of luck on the benefits and the funeral planning was a righteous clusterfuck thanks to all of my wife's siblings and mother-in-law having a say.
As an aside, if you're ever unsure of the value of life insurance and/or a will then plan a funeral for someone with neither, you'll change your tune right fucking quick.
Beyond that, marriage should only be entertained with skepticism. Choosing a spouse isn't easy. Remember that you're expected to live with this person 24/7/365 for the rest of your life. Something about your partner that annoys you now can and will annoy you 10 years into the marriage. Hash that out before you merge your lives together. Also avoid amalgamating your finances. Having a joint account is fine so long as either party retains their own personal accounts but having only a joint account is stupid and dangerous.
Know the difference between love and infatuation if you're intent on marrying for love. Love takes its time and is gentle whereas infatuation is fast and thrilling. In the same way, the candle that burns twice as bright burns twice as fast; marriages based on infatuation crash and burn more often and more spectacularly than love based ones. Ideally your spouse should compliment your personality and you should compliment theirs.
Marrying for money is trashy unless you come from a culture that still practices arranged marriages, in which case your folks are trashy. You will also have to learn to care for this complete stranger you're now foisted onto/had foisted onto you.
Marrying to take responsibility for a bastard child is, while a good thing, the result of poor decision making. To the bachelor Kiwis, wrap it before you tap it. To the much rarer bachelorette Kiwis, don't put out so easily. If you can't see yourself settling down with a sexual partner then suffer using condoms and spermicide. Don't bring a child into this world and get ye olde shotgun wedding arranged just because you needed to coom.
Thank you for attending my TED talk.
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If you're a man there's no point to getting married anymore. Sex its no longer tied to marriage and casual sex its the norm. Not only are long-term relationships the new normal, even fuck buddies are a normal occurrence now and nobody is to kick you out for having a chick only for plowing. Back then being a bachelor got you ostracized to the point some countries had a tax on that so you had to get married to be part of society, you HAD to get married or become a pariah, but not anymore. That social pressure no longer exists, and the religious pressure its even lower
Then theres the shitty divorce laws, and the even shittier domestic abuse ones where even talking back to whatever bitch you are stuck with could land you in jail. Shit, "denying sex" to your wife its a crime in scotland meaning the government basically says your wife raping you its legal. Paternity tests are illegal in france, any random chick can say you're the baby daddy and you cant do shit besides fleeing to a country without an extradition treaty. Divorce has become so easy and consequence-free for women that they are the ones that initiate the process most of the time so its not even up to you to save your marriage. Despite all the feminist shit you wont find any equality at family courts, just look at the number of suicides among divorced men, who wants that? life its hard enough as it is for men. And this is not just the west tho, many other countries including mine have draconian divorce laws too
And if you really want kids you can pay a surrogate to carry yours, cheaper than getting married too and no risk of getting your kids taken from you. Again there's no point anymore which is why a lot of guys are living the life instead of getting shackled to some cunt until the judge gives her half of their shit. The only losers here are the bottom 40% of men who cant get any. It used to be that ugly people married each other because even for the lower classes being single was a big no-no but now even ugly chicks can get some out-of-her-league dick with tinder. Of course after 30 they are fucked and become cat ladies (seen it happening, not a stereotype) that will likely die alone but thats not my problem. But back to that bottom 40% of men, they havent been getting any since the 60's when the sexual liberation began so its not like the status-quo has changed at all for them, if anything its back to the old days when the majority of men died without ever getting laid/having kids
>inb4 "married men are happier/have it easier"
Those stats are cooked af, do they also count how divorced men feel? no, and when they do these studies they count the permavirgin forever alone incels too which is BS because its not like they choose to be single, they were never gonna get any in the current context anyway, as much sense as to ask hobos if they are happy when doing a "how billionaires feel?" study. If anything they should only evaluate married men+divorced men vs men who did choose to not get married, thats the only way you can get a correct measure of happiness and/or success. BTW I also seen this metric being shown alongside that about career choices which TL;DR married men are better for the economy because they are willing to work harder shittier jobs to support their family which the states forces them to do while bachelors are okay taking thing slow and doing whats better for them. How is that a good thing? how is working yourself into an early grave an upgrade?
Then theres the shitty divorce laws, and the even shittier domestic abuse ones where even talking back to whatever bitch you are stuck with could land you in jail. Shit, "denying sex" to your wife its a crime in scotland meaning the government basically says your wife raping you its legal. Paternity tests are illegal in france, any random chick can say you're the baby daddy and you cant do shit besides fleeing to a country without an extradition treaty. Divorce has become so easy and consequence-free for women that they are the ones that initiate the process most of the time so its not even up to you to save your marriage. Despite all the feminist shit you wont find any equality at family courts, just look at the number of suicides among divorced men, who wants that? life its hard enough as it is for men. And this is not just the west tho, many other countries including mine have draconian divorce laws too
And if you really want kids you can pay a surrogate to carry yours, cheaper than getting married too and no risk of getting your kids taken from you. Again there's no point anymore which is why a lot of guys are living the life instead of getting shackled to some cunt until the judge gives her half of their shit. The only losers here are the bottom 40% of men who cant get any. It used to be that ugly people married each other because even for the lower classes being single was a big no-no but now even ugly chicks can get some out-of-her-league dick with tinder. Of course after 30 they are fucked and become cat ladies (seen it happening, not a stereotype) that will likely die alone but thats not my problem. But back to that bottom 40% of men, they havent been getting any since the 60's when the sexual liberation began so its not like the status-quo has changed at all for them, if anything its back to the old days when the majority of men died without ever getting laid/having kids
>inb4 "married men are happier/have it easier"
Those stats are cooked af, do they also count how divorced men feel? no, and when they do these studies they count the permavirgin forever alone incels too which is BS because its not like they choose to be single, they were never gonna get any in the current context anyway, as much sense as to ask hobos if they are happy when doing a "how billionaires feel?" study. If anything they should only evaluate married men+divorced men vs men who did choose to not get married, thats the only way you can get a correct measure of happiness and/or success. BTW I also seen this metric being shown alongside that about career choices which TL;DR married men are better for the economy because they are willing to work harder shittier jobs to support their family which the states forces them to do while bachelors are okay taking thing slow and doing whats better for them. How is that a good thing? how is working yourself into an early grave an upgrade?
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DumbDude42
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working your ass off at a shit job is acceptable if it means that you can have a good family (wife and children), overall that's a good deal
problem is that for more and more men the family part of the equation isn't attainable anymore, so the whole thing degenerates into "work your ass off at a shit job and get nothing in return" which is a really shitty deal