When and which big Websites hit peak Trans? - When did different popular website flip on the pro/con side of the Trans debate?

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

2015-6 was the big turning point. There was a very much orchestrated and planned move to push tranny shit out into the mainstream right after Obergefell. Polyamory got pushed out at the same time. You could see the array of thinkpieces and "nudges" getting dispersed through the usual suspects in the media. A smaller pre-test of this push was rolled out in 2013 in the wake of Windsor, which many have forgotten about by now. But the years between these two decisions allowed for a slow "turning up the heat" as boiling frogs goes.

Then Trump ran and the left/elite/media lost their fucking minds. However they were able to successfully hitch this tranny push to the momentum caused by everyone freaking out that Trump was going to hitlerize everything. Ironically this gave them a burst of energy they never would have gotten otherwise and pretty much sealed the deal.

Things were ramping up when the lockdowns started. I wondered if the lockdowns would distract people enough to derail it. Instead it had the opposite effect again.

There is no question at all that this is orchestrated and heavily, heavily financed, at this point.

 

[Where's Waldo?]

There is a question I've been trying to get answer to from our resident trannies and neither of them was able to give me a satisfying answer. The question is: how do you know you are a man\woman if you can't compare your experience to that of a biological man\woman?
@Mr. Cool ICE tried to talk about disliking her body and liking male clothes but I don't believe it's enough to consider oneself "wrong gender".
I think that most of those trannies who aren't just regular fetishists simply came to a point where they feel like they absolutely failed at life so they want to wipe the board clean and start from the beginning as a different person, that's why they react so violently when someone talks about their actual identity.

Hmmmmm, what you said about Cool ICE.....
I don't know if it's so much about just "liking the male clothing", but I think it's also how other girls act.

Now, I don't know Rita, but I know how other people can be. Some girls will act like feminine behaviour is what makes them women, and if a girl doesn't do that shit, they might say, "Oh my gawd, you are such a guy!"

I honestly think the same thing happens with MtF tards.
Guys bully eachother for being weak, and say that's "girl behaviour", and then some of these victims 'reclaim that insult' by...... saying, "Yeah, I AM a girl!"....... lol, instead of thinking it through at all.
I've seen MtFs say this themselves, although they dress it up as if its a super affirming choice, instead of retarded. I mean it honestly is one thing if you keep this behaviour to a single-sex space. Then it has context.
"This is what guys think of girls; this is what girls think of guys", but once it gets to a mixed-sex space, it gets retarded.... because the femboys run into actual women, and the übertomboys run into actual men, and it is obvious that they are different, in their bodies, as well as sometimes how they act.

I honestly believe that there are male and female reproductive instincts. I think hormones influence how people act. I think hormones shape people's brains. Especially young 'transbians' and 'gay ftms' who only lust after the opposite sex because that's what their natural levels of hormones ARE TELLING THEM TO DO!

It's just fucking nature, but these types of people are usually so 'logged-on' that they think it's BAD and EVIL to be straight. (Plus they probably have crushes on some homos of the opposite sex).

but yeah, I do think that you are right about wanting to construct a new identity. Someone wants to emphasize the things they're proud of in themselves, and erase anything that got them bullied or hurt.

Since the tranny thing has caught on, I've heard whiffs of women being banned from sites for saying they felt the same way as ftms describe, but they didn't transition.
Of course, the one example I can remember off the top of my head has some inflammatory language, but it kind of pisses me off that the mod just said, "you're banned and we're removing this", rather than allowing people to argue it out themselves.


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but I've seen other shit like this, where some women had been penalized for saying, "I felt the same way at puberty. I didn't like it. It felt wrong, but I matured eventually. You might, too."
I've seen people do anything to deny that they could ever share any similarities with these people that are reaching out to them. They've come up with a solution in their heads, and now they're afraid to admit they could be wrong because they won't look 'smart' anymore. It's so much smarter to back out of something painful early.................... or else just to..... wait and see, with an open mind. The thing about puberty is that it happens on its own time. It can't go faster.

I've also seen ftms do anything to deny that they have anything in common with other women at all.
I honestly think that's a trauma-induced response from being bullied by other women, or else for being bullied for being a girl.

or maybe they just find a lot of popular 'female-branded' expression cringey, including what other women choose to do themselves......
but their only 'role-models' for rejecting the stuff they find stupid are guys saying "LOL, STUPID CHICKS!"
Which I honestly find fine, do whatever you want, but that you will never ever be a biological male. As long as you don't get confused...

 

[Lindy64]

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I would say that livejournal was a hotbed for making fun of trannies in many communities. People were making fun of lolcows before they were called lolcows (they were just called fags or efags), and I even learned about CWC and some of the other people still being posted in Beauty Parlor.

Maybe the older/gen Xers were homos. The younger people were definitely picking it apart. There were many ED editors there from when it was still a dot com site, too.

LJ is also where many of the retro cows were based and got their start. The cannibalization of fellow site users isn't really uncommon or strange and I'd say the weirdos using the service far out-weighed those making fun of them.

There used to be a lot of Encyclopedia Dramatica people on the LJ groups devoted to mocking idiots. It was a very primitive and oddly formatted kind of lolcow zoo. Around the time Tumblr started to emerge as a major online presence (2008ish) those groups got taken over in mass by woketards including a bunch of proto-troon queers and racebaiters like Karnythia. There were schisms and splinters but ultimately it became some kind of politically correct hellscape and all the fun was drained out so as far as I know the communities just died off.

 

[Surfin Terf]

One case that I'm curious about, but didn't get to see for myself is Kiwi Farms itself. Obviously we're now the final boss of transphobia, but that definitely wasn't always the case. One example is the Roderick Leverne "Laverne" Cox thread. It's mostly been purged, but apparently it was overrun by trannies and their allies running interference for him.

Even after the thread was wiped and Null (PBUH) warned everyone to stop being spergs, people continued to respect tranny pronouns (though some people, as you can see in the above screenshot, do use gender-neutral pronouns).

I wasn't posting on KF at the time, but I do remember the Ratking being discovered in 2014 or so. I hadn't come even close to peaking myself then, but I remember that really opening my eyes to a different side of the trans community. I have to imagine that it contributed to KF's peaking.

Around this time Chris was committing to living full time as a tranny and I know that there was a lot of debate about that.

I'm sure that some KF elders could provide far more valuable insight into the pre-peak KF and how the phobes managed to save this site.

 

[A-Stump]

I'm sure that some KF elders could provide far more valuable insight into the pre-peak KF and how the phobes managed to save this site.

I don't think most people gave a shit about trannies here until, ironically, the trannies made it their business to shove their agenda down everyone's throat. You had a few outliers....Ahuyiva and Chris of course but I don't think most people cared one way or another.

The atmosphere was also different. People were (in my opinion) nicer to one another and more close-knit. Cool in a way but it also led to weird little cliques forming. I think the 'decentralization' of everything made it better. There's cliques now but kind of stuck to their own little cubbyholes on the site instead of shitting up everything at once.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Probably around 2014-ish this was starting to be promoted hard. Not sure when the hammer started coming down, probably a bit later, maybe 2016-17 . Around the time reddit decided to commit sub genocide and banned the_donald, youtube changed their policies around that time too iirc.


When the carrot and stick first came into play It was easier for a normie to just virtue signal their love of woke and get instant dopamine hits and promotion on their networks, there was more incentive to not rock the boat and play along to go along and most people didn't see themselves affected by saying trannies are hecking cute and valid. Took a real while before actual pushback started happening that the stick was needed on regular social media. The feeling you got was that most people either didn't care or where on board with the Rainbow cult.

i think now in 2023 everyone is exhausted and have too many real life concerns to be tolerating this situation, people have pent up rage and this is doing nothing but contributing to their alienation. Thats when the stick comes in and is more necessary than ever if you want to keep the charade that loving trannies is normalized. Today all it takes is to loosen the grip on the censorship algorithm and the whole social media will devolve into nonstop tranny bashing. Twitter did that a little bit and suddenly is more common to see direct confrontation and trannies are calling it a genocide because they finally see dissent.

Reddit is funny because you often see threads with 90% of comments wiped out, thats the extend of what it takes even there. The goys are getting pissed, its not just trannies but things are getting spicy with normies and conflict online is rising, so much that billionaires have a real incentive to drop the troons as a sacrificial lamb less it becomes an even bigger gateway into controversial questions and wanting to behead certain groups responsible.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

After Gay marriage became legalized the next progressive cause was transgenderism. Then orange man made these people shit their pants and drove the momentum into overdrive. Gender ideology shit has been around the slums of tumblr for well over a decade. But reached everywhere else in 2015-2016.

In late 2018 tumblr banned NSFW content. Which led to a mass exodus of tumblrites to other sites (like twitter). It is here we see an EXPLOSION of troonery across the internet. As the previous user showed the use of the word “tranny” skyrocketed in 4chan’s anime board 2019 onwards.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Boy I used to love the Ugly People thread on something awful. Funny how sometimes it could be quite wholesome because you'd find out how someone managed to live with ichthyosis or how that one gal with the genetic disorder was really cool, but then also have a laugh at people of Walmart before that turned into an upskirt photo gallery.

I remember around 2008 or something someone said we shouldn't post trannies (I think this may have been the first time I read the term transgender) because they're in an awkward state of their life. I remember thinking that seemed like something to consider as compassionate, but then when looking at the pictures of the trannies also thinking that them wearing ladies clothes was the least of their ugly problems.

Anyway got permaed in 2016 and never even tried to go back.