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When Did Men Become Drama Queens?​

Anyone arguing that men are somehow the more rational of the sexes has a lot of explaining to do: The energy once reserved for fighting wars or building nations or surging ahead with glorious careers is now spent prancing and preening on mic, on camera, online. The news, the issues, the ideas are just an excuse; what matters is the performance, the opportunity to deliver a perfect star turn of high emotional wattage to the applause of an adoring crowd. War, but make it theater.

We saw this happen first with the left, which established the mechanism whereby news headlines—which often turned out to be mostly or entirely wrong—were used as instruments for emotional blackmail. People who refused to emote the way posters wanted them to would find their own humanity questioned: SO YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT RACISM? I GUESS YOU HATE WOMEN! YOU WANT TRANS PEOPLE TO COMMIT SUICIDE AND DIE.

As others have noted, this was a particularly female form of politics. But it worked so well that many of the men who initially found it horrifying have decided that if you can’t beat the catfight, you should join it. That’s why you see Theo Von breaking down and crying, holding his head in his hands while he weeps, trembling subtly to make sure you feel his pain. Or why the Collected Tweets of Darryl Cooper, the historian who doesn’t believe in facts, reads like a script from the Mean Girls franchise. Or why everyone who has ever worked for any media outlet is posting videos of weeping kids in Gaza. These days, X is just a bunch of grown men having a string of histrionic outbursts, projecting the sort of ululating emotion that, in an earlier age, would’ve called for a fetching of the smelling salts and a loosening of the corset. If you question the facts underneath their feeling, you are challenging the entire premise of the only thing they have to offer on that platform—which, more often than not, means you’re also challenging the way they make money.

Take, for example, the latest kerfuffle over Joel Berry, a writer for the popular satire site The Babylon Bee, who suggested on X, after stray Israeli ammunition accidentally hit a Catholic church in Gaza, that many among the very small Catholic community living under Hamas strongly support the terror group. “True Christian faith still exists in Gaza, but it’s all underground,” Berry wrote. “Anyone allowed by Hamas to practice openly is allowed to do so only because they aid and support the terror regime.”

It’s a controversial opinion, one that merits discussion and deserves a factual cross-examination. Instead, this is what one popular pundit, the Rev. Ben Johnson, had to say: “Joel Berry’s ‘Christian deaths don’t matter if they aren’t evangelicals’ is the anti-Catholic, anti-Orthodox, prideful faith of the modern day Protestant Pharisee. Closing your heart to the suffering, death, and destruction of the innocent is the faith of the Antichrist.” He was hardly an outlier in sounding like a mental patient suffering a terrible relapse: Most other critics who took Berry to task hardly bothered addressing his claims or refuting them with numbers and figures. Instead, they summoned the most hysterical imagery they could dream up to portray Berry as a monster.

In a scene reminiscent (nearly a carbon copy) of the spring of 2020—when millions took to the internet and the streets to argue that police officers were racist thugs on a continuous murderous spree to kill innocent unarmed Black Americans, even as the data showed the opposite—this week, a new set of hysterics is screaming, say, that very violent settlers burned down an ancient church in Taybeh, all facts to the contrary be damned. If you disagree, you clearly HATE CHRISTIANS AND WANT THEM TO DIE.

In his seminal work, Manhood in the Making, the anthropologist David Gilmore showed that disparate societies that have almost nothing in common and whose cultures vary wildly still maintain an almost universal notion of masculinity; they teach it to young boys by requiring them to demonstrate both their ability to unleash their aggression (in hunting, say, or fighting enemies) and their capacity for stoicism in the face of great danger and pain.

Our therapeutic age seems to have dissolved this timeless tradition, turning men in particular not only into emotional wrecks but also into campy figures who believe that the only way to signal their worth is by having some sort of very public and very emotional meltdown for others to admire. Instead of engaging in battle—of ideas if not of fists—they demand the other side be silenced. Instead of taking pride in remaining rational, calm, and ready, they pursue the theatrics of emotionalism, knowing well that no other currency matters.

Which is good news, really: Like that emotionally manipulative girlfriend you had in college, the new hysterics hold sway only if we let them. They’ve nothing to offer but their howling; laugh them off and tune them out, and they will, eventually, disappear.
 
Liel is that you?

The Goyim are done with this shit bro. Take your Scofield Bible and your coastal op-eds and find a new host.
Nah, cutie. You'll bow down to your masters with tears in your eyes. You don't want to be a wimp, do you? Might have to give you a white feather after a. TikTok campaign.
 
Men have always had debates. Most original congresses or parliaments were mostly men discussing a problem to them find a solution. Then, they solved it.

Meanwhile, men today chop their dicks, masturbate at the idea of them being women, buy funkos, and destroy entire cities when election results aren't what they expected.
 
Can't shame me into fighting your wars faggot. Lick my taint.
Again, this is what the author means by effeminate conduct. There's no actual evidence that this has ever been asked for, but you want to feel like a victim and that something is being asked of you. So you make this up in order to strike it down so that you feel like you have a tiny bit of masculinity when in reality you did nothing.

Most other critics who took Berry to task hardly bothered addressing his claims or refuting them with numbers and figures. Instead, they summoned the most hysterical imagery they could dream up to portray Berry as a monster.

Like I said, the lack of self awareness is hilarious.
 
Obviously we have a masculinity crisis, that's the point of the article. At no point does the author reject male grievances, he simply points out that men are acting hysterical like women because it is socially rewarding and that it echos leftist ideals of how to behave. Like you're seeing here:
Claiming that men are acting hysterical is absolutely rejecting male grievances. Men are becoming more vocal because more and more of them are having their lives and needs utterly disregarded, or even spit upon. The ones who are vocal are the ones who still care, and will be receptive to discussions of change, if they ever happen. The ones who are silent are the ones who you will never get back, because they no longer believe things will get better. I know you, as well as this journalist, just hate guys like us, and I am wasting my time here, I mostly just wanted to point out that I absolutely was discussing objective reality.

You and him seem to think that men should only be taken seriously if they are calm or stoic, which is ridiculous. Obviously men are going to lose their temper and stop being polite at some point.
 
Again, this is what the author means by effeminate conduct. There's no actual evidence that this has ever been asked for, but you want to feel like a victim and that something is being asked of you. So you make this up in order to strike it down so that you feel like you have a tiny bit of masculinity when in reality you did nothing.



Like I said, the lack of self awareness is hilarious.
"Disagreeing with me is effeminate behavior!" says the curly locked faggot.

Fuck you. Still not fighting your wars.
 
Certain people like the Catholic Joel Berry?


No one is addressing the meat of the issue, just engaging in performative victimhood just like most of the thread.

Or pointing out how they reacted hysterically to an event that didn't happen
Berry is not a Catholic, he's an Evangelical (which is to say, Christian Zionist by default). And there's nothing to address about his comments or engage him with, it's the exact same boilerplate deranged Evangelical Zionist takes that seek to deflect blame from & justify every action taken by their longtime golden calf, the modern State of Israel. That he would excuse even the killing of his supposed fellow Christians & attacks on their churches if it's done by Israel is nothing new, not for nothing did Ted Cruz get booed by various Mideastern Christian leaders for something similar some years back.

Leftists hate everything he represents & argues for because they're as antisemitic as Stalin, right-wingers (especially the young'uns) increasingly hate him & other Evangelical Zionist types for being theologically unsound heretics with no regard for national or even co-religionists' interests in favor of worshiping Israel at all costs, and they've made that pretty clear in the last 25+ years of Internet discourse. Nothing left to say now except to call him a cunt when he makes cuntish statements, like implying any Palestinian Catholics still left in Gaza deserve to die because they won't stick their necks out to support Israel (nevermind that this isn't even the first time the IDF has attacked their church, the only Catholic church still standing in Gaza) against Hamas.

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This is how rabid & illogical Berry gets about his golden calf. What's there to say about his take exactly - that it's obviously insane and so is he? Full of disregard, even contempt, for the lives & livelihood of his supposed fellow Christians? Utterly detached from the realities on the ground, as though Hamas won't just kill any Catholic who protests against them in Gaza if the IDF doesn't beat them to it? All that and more can describe Evangelicals' policies toward Israel and the Middle East going back to the Bush years & even before. And I do think there's nothing 'hysterical' or 'unmanly' about understanding when someone you're arguing with is beyond reason, beyond persuasion, and so there is nothing left for you to do but call the nigger a nigger.
 
"Disagreeing with me is effeminate behavior!" says the curly locked faggot.

Fuck you. Still not fighting your wars.
Not what I said. I know you love feeling like a victim but have some dignity, public verbal masturbation is gross.


I know you, as well as this journalist, just hate guys like us, and I am wasting my time here,
Why do you think a right wing guy hates you?


You and him seem to think that men should only be taken seriously if they are calm or stoic, which is ridiculous. Obviously men are going to lose their temper and stop being polite at some point.
Reread the article. There is nothing against being passionate there. It's pointing out how the discourse now is based off emotions instead of objective reality.

It’s a controversial opinion, one that merits discussion and deserves a factual cross-examination. Instead, this is what one popular pundit, the Rev. Ben Johnson, had to say: “Joel Berry’s ‘Christian deaths don’t matter if they aren’t evangelicals’ is the anti-Catholic, anti-Orthodox, prideful faith of the modern day Protestant Pharisee. Closing your heart to the suffering, death, and destruction of the innocent is the faith of the Antichrist.” He was hardly an outlier in sounding like a mental patient suffering a terrible relapse: Most other critics who took Berry to task hardly bothered addressing his claims or refuting them with numbers and figures. Instead, they summoned the most hysterical imagery they could dream up to portray Berry as a monster.
Where is the actual discourse here? It's just performative outrage without addressing any facts or the points being made.

Instead of performative outrage, actually discuss things like here:

This is how rabid & illogical Berry gets about his golden calf. What's there to say about this take exactly - that it's obviously insane and so is he? Full of absolute disregard for the lives & livelihood of his supposed fellow Christians? Utterly detached from the realities on the ground? All that and more can describe Evangelicals' policies toward Israel and the Middle East going back to the Bush years & even before.

There's something to discuss there and he actually makes good points about how Evangelicals act. This is how things move forwards.
 
The energy once reserved for fighting wars
No more wars for the Nose Tribe, Liel.

The Babylon Bee, who suggested on X, after stray Israeli ammunition accidentally hit a Catholic church in Gaza
Oopsie whoopsie, we did a fucky wucky, goyim!

their capacity for stoicism in the face of great danger and pain.
'Stoicism', when argued by a woman or a duplicitous, pen-wielding schnozel tov, is just a backhanded way of telling you to shut up about their wrongdoings.
 
It’s rare that men cry openly, but I have seen a few crybabies. Like Jordan Peterson and Alex Jones. And they’re supposed to be chads. Like what? Maybe alpha males shouldn’t be crybabies if they don’t want other men to be crybabies.
 
The title reminds me of something from one of those Twitter accounts that is run by a wignat but pretends to be Chinese. Like:
“In China men die fight war and build monument, make ancestors proud.

In West men cry online and make podcast about cry online and watch gay cartoon. Make ancestors ashamed”
 
Imagine the shame of dying for israel while your society kills babies, mutilates children and your women seem incapable of curbing their desire to redeem an unlimited number of brown subhumanoids.
 
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Every time without fail, the "people" I catch pushing "traditional masculinity" are Zionist ass wipes that want your happiness, alleviation and camaraderie destroyed so you can eternally slave away for ungrateful globalists who hate you.
Almost as if gender norms are merely performative, huh, trick?
 
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Reread the article. There is nothing against being passionate there. It's pointing out how the discourse now is based off emotions instead of objective reality.
You're missing the point of the article. Picking a handful of people who have no credentials or decision making authority having emotional reactions in the moment says nothing about stoicism or masculinity, it's a jab at 'Israel sceptics' reacting badly to what are technically Israeli warcrimes. AKA, you're a weak man if you fall for that tearbait. You're upset about dead people, children? What are you a faggit?

There's two points of context. I'm no believer of the great Jewish Conspiracy, but these right-wing Israelite journos have adopted a very distinct MSNBC-like tone of wearily 'facting and logicing' the world that antisemitism is everywhere and everyone is obligated to counter it, the black mark of which scourges any meaningful criticism of Israel. The Jewsperging in A&H is...spirited, but it's a direct result of Westerners in particular becoming very sick of being sanctimoniously hectored and blackmailed by a country that is very powerful, very influential yet is headed by corrupt extremists who increasingly show naked entitlement. No he's not actually saying others should fight for Israel, it's a hyperbolic rejoiner to the reality that Israel's priorities dominate American interests, politically and financially. Trump has already conducted military operations on their behalf and expanded the scope of the formerly regional conflict.

When the objective reality is that the official ZIonist position is everyone will believe this, this and this about Israel and stand with us or you're an antisemite and possibly a Nazi, who's actually operating off emotional bias?

What's also objective reality is sympathy and support for Palestine, despite being the instigators of this bout, has been largely grassroots, passionate (often to the point of cognitive dissonance), and is now winning support with other countries like the EU. There's all sorts of other bad reasons for that, but that doesn't change that Israel is about to default on it's Holocaust guilt credit due to it's own fecklessness, and the bitter rejoinder from this guy is, then well, all mankind has failed.

Read this guy's other articles and you'll see this theme crop up in different ways. In one, he calls Frankenstein's monster - you know, the lonely, misunderstood, outwardly hideous monster - Jewish, and Dracula - perfect, composed, elegant, but predatory, false and fragile - goy.
 
Jewish author on a jewish website. Do not fall for it.
after reading the headline, i wondered which self serving group wrote this. the point of this article is that its ok, great even, that Israel bombs christian churchs and kills christians in gaza because they're fake christians that support hamas. the real christians are protestants who worship in secret. if you were a real man and not a fake soybaby you'd cheer israel on.
 
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