Opinion When Must We Kill Them? - Evil has come to America.

Edit 04/18/2025: Well didn’t that get quite a reception! The response has been far greater than I anticipated; I was certainly impressed by the inventiveness and facility of my interlocutors. I wish to make a few points clear. Violence is a last resort, not a first resort. It must come after the exhaustion of all possible remedy. It is not, moreover, appropriate for decisions which are merely unwise or disastrous. It is to be employed only in defense of our Constitution, and of democracy. If it is resorted to, it must be narrowly targeted, and aimed only at extirpating those who have power, and are unjustly resisting giving it up.

Evil has come to America. The present administration is engaged in barbarism; it has arbitrarily imprisoned its opponents, revoked the visas of thousands of students, imposed taxes upon us without our consent, and seeks to destroy the institutions which oppose it. Its leader has threatened those who produce unfavorable coverage, and suggested that their licenses be revoked. It has deprived us, in many cases, of trial by jury; it has subjected us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and has transported us beyond seas to be imprisoned for pretended offenses. It has scorned the orders of our courts, and threatens to alter fundamentally our form of government. It has pardoned its thugs, and extorted the lawyers who defended its opponents.

If these actions become normal, the government could arrest anyone and deport them to prison in a foreign land, without hope of redress, for no reason. It is nothing less than the total abdication of rule of law in this country. There is no guard or protection against it. If this theory prevails, then it is the end of America as a free nation.

I do not wish for this essay to be a mere catalogue of outrages. The conduct of the present administration is as well known to you as it is to myself, and can be understood by any sensible person. On it, no further comment is ventured.

What remains for us to decide is when we fight. If the present administration wills it, it could sweep away the courts, it could sweep away democracy, and it could sweep away freedom. Protest is useful only insofar as it can effect action. Our words might sway the hearts of men, but not of beasts.

If the present administration chooses this course, then the questions of the day can be settled not with legislation, but with blood and iron. In short, we must decide when we must kill them. None of us wish for war, but if the present administration wishes to destroy the nation I would accept war rather than see it perish. I hope that you would choose the same.

But what to do? The rot of the present administration runs deeper than one man. The sacrifice of a hero is insufficient to save our nation, and a gust of wind on a summer day would not have saved us. For let us make no mistake; the problem is not one man, but a whole class of people. If one head is cut off, another would take its place.

Violence only makes sense as part of coordinated strategy. This is why protests are important – not as a way of changing the present administration’s actions, but as a way to coordinate a group. There may come a time when we shall have no guarantee of freedom but the one which we make for ourselves. If it comes, I tell you that there is no greater honor than he who lays down his life for his friends. Until then, we must wait.

And when is that time? Your threshold may differ from mine, but you must have one. If the present administration should cancel elections; if it should engage in fraud in the electoral process; if it should suppress the speech of its opponents, and jail its political adversaries; if it ignores the will of Congress; if it should directly spurn the orders of the court; all these are reasons for revolution. It may be best to stave off, and wait for elections to throw out this scourge; but if it should threaten the ability to remove it, we shall have no choice. We will have to do the right thing. We will have to prepare ourselves to die. I hope that we should conduct ourselves with such courage that it will be our finest hour; I expect that we shall do our duty.

While we wait, we must not be like sheep to the slaughter. We cannot cooperate. We must hide those who are persecuted; we must foil the aims of their agents. The state and local governments which we control can litigate the actions of the present administration. Their police can refuse to share information or be deputized to do the work of the evil ones. If war is politics by other means, then politics is war by other means. There can be no surrender, for surrender means the oppression of all of us.

These are exceptional times! We have not faced such a threat in many years. I wish that it had not come. It is the sorrow of the world that these times have come, and it is we who shall have to bring woe unto those through whom it came.

The future is not certain. It may be that the present administration should flinch, and turn back in face of lighter action. I fondly hope that that may be the case. But if it comes, we must awaken from this ignorant dream. This evil will not pass without blood, sweat, toil, and tears. So harden your hearts, and be prepared to die.

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The right is always quite enthusiastic about its grass-fed beef boys from deep Appalachia running roughshod over the skinnyfat city slickers due to greater camping experience. But in fact, most of the deaths under communism were the direct result of spectacled bureaucrats, dictating deaths by the pen-stroke, basically like this article writer. Given power, he'd casually order your whole family sent to camps and never second-guess himself. Nerds like that have the highest kill counts. Not trigger pulling bodybuilders from the countryside
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Brawn and skill at arms are not necessarily at a premium when it comes time for a purge, but energy and focus are. People like the author don't have much of that.
 
Dudes week just got much worse. Apparently Andy Ngo took the time to read some of his OTHER substack essays.


A'yup AGP Pedophile Troon. Every fucking time.
RESET THE CLOCK!
You know what they say...you never get fucked as hard and as thoroughly as when you fuck yourself. And this clown has done so, beyond belief.

He would have been smarter to just write his shit on a piece of paper, read it, tear the paper into little pieces, and throw the pieces away. Got things off his chest, nobody was messed with.
 
There is a reason why Boomer tier conservatives constantly compared the Nazis and Soviets. It's because there is no other way to deal with your political opposition. They must be oppressed and even destroyed if needed.
 
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The right is always quite enthusiastic about its grass-fed beef boys from deep Appalachia running roughshod over the skinnyfat city slickers due to greater camping experience. But in fact, most of the deaths under communism were the direct result of spectacled bureaucrats, dictating deaths by the pen-stroke, basically like this article writer. Given power, he'd casually order your whole family sent to camps and never second-guess himself. Nerds like that have the highest kill counts. Not trigger pulling bodybuilders from the countryside
That's all well and good, but the killings weren't carried out by cum-shitting retards like him. They were carried out by actually capable men.

The gulf between the desires of the lefties today and their actual capabilities is as wide as the gulf between the stars.

The last intellectual capable of killing his enemies was Uncle Ted and he HATED leftists. Needless to say, we WON'T be seeing any capable war fighters arising from today's academics.

Seriously, can you even IMAGINE a retard like Tiny Tim Wise or Triumph of the Will Stancil leading a rifle squad? Not without doubling over with laughter.

The few vets on the left don't have the numbers.
 
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That's all well and good, but the killings weren't carried out by cum-shitting retards like him. They were carried out by actually capable men.

The gulf between the desires of the lefties today and their actual capabilities is as wide as the gulf between the stars.

The last intellectual capable of killing his enemies was Uncle Ted and he HATED leftists. Needless to say, we WON'T be seeing any capable war fighters arising from today's academics.

The few vets on the left don't have the numbers.
They seem quite good at setting fires. Which is a huge problem.
 
That's all well and good, but the killings weren't carried out by cum-shitting retards like him. They were carried out by actually capable men.

The gulf between the desires of the lefties today and their actual capabilities is as wide as the gulf between the stars.

The last intellectual capable of killing his enemies was Uncle Ted and he HATED leftists. Needless to say, we WON'T be seeing any capable war fighters arising from today's academics.

The few vets on the left don't have the numbers.
My money is on the left importing fighters, probably from Africa or South America. Which of course totally has no precedent and couldn't come back to haunt them.
 
It has deprived us, in many cases, of trial by jury; it has subjected us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution
I thought immigration violations were a civil offense thus immune from jury trial as the only punishment is deportation?

P.S. I you are concerned about these questionable immigration actions against non-citizens, please show me your direct call to violence against former President Obama for the extrajudicial killing of Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son by the US military when they were not engaged in combat actions?

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Why did this teenager and his father need to die?

Did you issue a direct call of violence against former President Obama when the killings occured?
 
Brandenburg v Ohio covers his ass, as well as covers the ass of many posters on this forum.
Depends on the nature of the utterance. Generally advocating for violent overthrow is protected. Specifically calling for violent action against a particular person or group isn't protected under that finding.
 
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I thought immigration violations were a civil offense thus immune from jury trial as the only punishment is deportation?

P.S. I you are concerned about these questionable immigration actions against non-citizens, please show me your direct call to violence against former President Obama for the extrajudicial killing of Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son by the US military when they were not engaged in combat actions?

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Why did this teenager and his father need to die?

Did you issue a direct call of violence against former President Obama when the killings occured?

Anwar 100% deserved the hellfire he got rammed up his ass and it's his fault for dragging his son along while he played terrorist.
 
Everyone talks big, all sides. When’s the lasts time fedposting led to actual action? I guess that would be the Bundy standoff against the Bureau of Land Management? But honestly, 9/11 happened and big brother tightened its gripped on our lives and people bitched and did little. The government threw away trillions of dollars and thousands of lives in the GWoT and people bitched and did little. Covid fucking happened and people at most helped fake some vax records and stuck to their safe zones where there was less pressure to give in to hysteria.

Internet tough guy syndrome effects all kinds.
Bundy standoff doesn't really count because the Bundy family did not do violence and Obama ultimately failed miserably in their scheme to bait the Bundy family into doing something to let him start the violence against them, even after Obama killed one of their supporters.

There is an increasing nervousness of 2 things: Gavin Newsome the California Commie's overture to secession might start to get taken seriously because of the sheer chaos the orange bull is causing in the American china shop, and the number of literal-who's that have been caught actually trying to Do Something after another rando already Tried Something and came within inches of succeeding
California secession is 100% off the table after the recent fires and Newsom starting the process of trying to walk back his lunatic lefty beliefs in order to reinvent himself as a moderate.

I don't know much about bloody revolutions, but most, if not all done by college students? I know there was some chinese shit where the chicky-chang-wangs went totally kungpao on people.
In China, college students were mainly exploited as brown shirt hatchet men during the 60s when Mao and his wife used them to basically wipe out anyone who might try and Coup Mao after he fucked up things with the Great Leap Forward movement that led to famine and horror in China post communist takeover.

But in theory, the trust fund college students in any communist revolution tend to try and be the brain trust/officer class and only get their hands bloody when working class types tell them to eat shit and refuse to be their hatchetmen. And often end up first against the wall when the revolution succeeds but don't get made part of the new ruling elite
 
The right is always quite enthusiastic about its grass-fed beef boys from deep Appalachia running roughshod over the skinnyfat city slickers due to greater camping experience. But in fact, most of the deaths under communism were the direct result of spectacled bureaucrats, dictating deaths by the pen-stroke, basically like this article writer. Given power, he'd casually order your whole family sent to camps and never second-guess himself. Nerds like that have the highest kill counts. Not trigger pulling bodybuilders from the countryside

But the nerds aren't doing the trigger pulling themselves. As you said, they are pushing pencils. They need the trigger pullers to carry out the actual killing, and the trigger pullers in America are NOT on their side.
 
I dunno, I guess you kill them when you get your nuts up enough to do it yourself, instead of passing the buck to someone else like the rest of you do. Don't worry, you're in good company with the "try that in a small town" people.
 
Today's left-wing politics has this unnecessary obsession with martyrdom and having a savior complex. It stems from the fact a lot of these people have Main Character Syndrome and low self worth and esteem . There are so many issues working class people face that are trivial, local but could make a difference if fixed. But instead, leftards hyper focus on the big item foreign policy crap, or whatever the current popular controversial thing is in the news. They don't want to actually help people. They want to be famous, and feel special for their moral grandstanding. Its a cancerous cycle driven by unwarranted self importance.
 
I'm just going to say that positioning yourself on a moral highground above people who want to kill you by claiming you aren't in their category as a 'peaceful civilized person' or whatever is retarded.

The guy in the comments section that was screencapped saying 'they're (Democrats) the party of violence and hate' has it wrong, you shouldn't try to position yourself oppositional to something that is necessary for protecting boundaries physical and metaphysical alike.

The correct response is to remind such people that civilization is for humans, and if you're not going to uphold civilization, you're not human. Then the work of defining what that looks like begins.
But the nerds aren't doing the trigger pulling themselves. As you said, they are pushing pencils. They need the trigger pullers to carry out the actual killing, and the trigger pullers in America are NOT on their side.
COVID proved this to be false. Grow up.
 
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