Opinion When Must We Kill Them? - Evil has come to America.

Edit 04/18/2025: Well didn’t that get quite a reception! The response has been far greater than I anticipated; I was certainly impressed by the inventiveness and facility of my interlocutors. I wish to make a few points clear. Violence is a last resort, not a first resort. It must come after the exhaustion of all possible remedy. It is not, moreover, appropriate for decisions which are merely unwise or disastrous. It is to be employed only in defense of our Constitution, and of democracy. If it is resorted to, it must be narrowly targeted, and aimed only at extirpating those who have power, and are unjustly resisting giving it up.

Evil has come to America. The present administration is engaged in barbarism; it has arbitrarily imprisoned its opponents, revoked the visas of thousands of students, imposed taxes upon us without our consent, and seeks to destroy the institutions which oppose it. Its leader has threatened those who produce unfavorable coverage, and suggested that their licenses be revoked. It has deprived us, in many cases, of trial by jury; it has subjected us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and has transported us beyond seas to be imprisoned for pretended offenses. It has scorned the orders of our courts, and threatens to alter fundamentally our form of government. It has pardoned its thugs, and extorted the lawyers who defended its opponents.

If these actions become normal, the government could arrest anyone and deport them to prison in a foreign land, without hope of redress, for no reason. It is nothing less than the total abdication of rule of law in this country. There is no guard or protection against it. If this theory prevails, then it is the end of America as a free nation.

I do not wish for this essay to be a mere catalogue of outrages. The conduct of the present administration is as well known to you as it is to myself, and can be understood by any sensible person. On it, no further comment is ventured.

What remains for us to decide is when we fight. If the present administration wills it, it could sweep away the courts, it could sweep away democracy, and it could sweep away freedom. Protest is useful only insofar as it can effect action. Our words might sway the hearts of men, but not of beasts.

If the present administration chooses this course, then the questions of the day can be settled not with legislation, but with blood and iron. In short, we must decide when we must kill them. None of us wish for war, but if the present administration wishes to destroy the nation I would accept war rather than see it perish. I hope that you would choose the same.

But what to do? The rot of the present administration runs deeper than one man. The sacrifice of a hero is insufficient to save our nation, and a gust of wind on a summer day would not have saved us. For let us make no mistake; the problem is not one man, but a whole class of people. If one head is cut off, another would take its place.

Violence only makes sense as part of coordinated strategy. This is why protests are important – not as a way of changing the present administration’s actions, but as a way to coordinate a group. There may come a time when we shall have no guarantee of freedom but the one which we make for ourselves. If it comes, I tell you that there is no greater honor than he who lays down his life for his friends. Until then, we must wait.

And when is that time? Your threshold may differ from mine, but you must have one. If the present administration should cancel elections; if it should engage in fraud in the electoral process; if it should suppress the speech of its opponents, and jail its political adversaries; if it ignores the will of Congress; if it should directly spurn the orders of the court; all these are reasons for revolution. It may be best to stave off, and wait for elections to throw out this scourge; but if it should threaten the ability to remove it, we shall have no choice. We will have to do the right thing. We will have to prepare ourselves to die. I hope that we should conduct ourselves with such courage that it will be our finest hour; I expect that we shall do our duty.

While we wait, we must not be like sheep to the slaughter. We cannot cooperate. We must hide those who are persecuted; we must foil the aims of their agents. The state and local governments which we control can litigate the actions of the present administration. Their police can refuse to share information or be deputized to do the work of the evil ones. If war is politics by other means, then politics is war by other means. There can be no surrender, for surrender means the oppression of all of us.

These are exceptional times! We have not faced such a threat in many years. I wish that it had not come. It is the sorrow of the world that these times have come, and it is we who shall have to bring woe unto those through whom it came.

The future is not certain. It may be that the present administration should flinch, and turn back in face of lighter action. I fondly hope that that may be the case. But if it comes, we must awaken from this ignorant dream. This evil will not pass without blood, sweat, toil, and tears. So harden your hearts, and be prepared to die.

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But the nerds aren't doing the trigger pulling themselves. As you said, they are pushing pencils. They need the trigger pullers to carry out the actual killing, and the trigger pullers in America are NOT on their side.
Boots will be boots and do what they're ordered to do.

If you told the average American soldier to gun down protestors, they'd gladly do it, they're picked because they'll obey, and that's their only duty.
 
I'm just going to say that positioning yourself on a moral highground above people who want to kill you by claiming you aren't in their category as a 'peaceful civilized person' or whatever is retarded.
Its equally retarded because they claim to be materialists, and argue that men are a product of their environment. So, their scorn doesn't make any sense. You would think they would at least pity the people they despise, but they gleefully discuss murdering them and their families with guillotines. Its also selective. If a brown person goes and kills someone, its because they're poor and oppressed. If a white person does it, its white supremacy and nazism. None of them have any internal constituency, or an ability to self reflect on anything. They operate purely on their own sentimentalism and child-like adolescence.
 
Bundy standoff doesn't really count because the Bundy family did not do violence and Obama ultimately failed miserably in their scheme to bait the Bundy family into doing something to let him start the violence against them, even after Obama killed one of their supporters.
If the Bundy supporters didn't bring as many cameras, equipment to maintain permanent online hookups, and witnesses watching from every angle as they did with guns. Obama would've made the move to crush the standoff like Clinton had done with the Waco standoff but with no unapproved cameras rolling.
 
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Oh yeah this guy . I remember that Cucknadian "centrist" was sweeping for him.
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But the nerds aren't doing the trigger pulling themselves. As you said, they are pushing pencils. They need the trigger pullers to carry out the actual killing, and the trigger pullers in America are NOT on their side.
They were on their side during the 2020 nigger riots, and during the Covid lockdowns. I always see the cope about how the cops and soldiers are real Americans, but their actions have proven otherwise. They're all glorified mercenaries at best.
 
@Black Man Underwear I would love to share your optimism about lefties but you have to understand these soyboys have control of the narrative which is powerful.

It's a good thing the narrative is slowly slipping away but the average soyboy and millenial psycho bpd person would rather cut their kids genitalia off and attempt violence then admit they're wrong.

The saving grace is that the left isn't competent but right not the right should be careful not to lose the sympathy stick or else we lose the war.
 
@Black Man Underwear I would love to share your optimism about lefties but you have to understand these soyboys have control of the narrative which is powerful.

It's a good thing the narrative is slowly slipping away but the average soyboy and millenial psycho bpd person would rather cut their kids genitalia off and attempt violence then admit they're wrong.

The saving grace is that the left isn't competent but right not the right should be careful not to lose the sympathy stick or else we lose the war.
The average foot soldier of leftism and to an extent the modern political right is the breed I am referring to.

The ideological leaders of leftism are entirely different. They are not actual leftists, but they sell the ideology to others.

Example: Joseph Stalin was not a communist, he was a gangster. Communism was the lie he sold his people to keep him in power.

Bernie Sanders isn't a communist, he's a millionaire. His supporters are communists.

The retard who wrote the article is the kind of person I'm talking about. He spews rhetoric threatening violent action because his masters made him fear Trump. At the same time, he was taught to fear meat, dairy, working out, and learning to handle weapons, everything he'd need to actually fight.
 
The average foot soldier of leftism and to an extent the modern political right is the breed I am referring to.

The ideological leaders of leftism are entirely different. They are not actual leftists, but they sell the ideology to others.

Example: Joseph Stalin was not a communist, he was a gangster. Communism was the lie he sold his people to keep him in power.

Bernie Sanders isn't a communist, he's a millionaire. His supporters are communists.

The retard who wrote the article is the kind of person I'm talking about. He spews rhetoric threatening violent action because his masters made him fear Trump. At the same time, he was taught to fear meat, dairy, working out, and learning to handle weapons, everything he'd need to actually fight.
This is the thing mobilization can happen very quick and surviving a war tends to do a lot to increase intelligence.
While we might be laughing at pathetic queer activists and their shenanigans now give them time they will be an even worse threat especially kinetically speaking.
It's not that the average normie is a secret commie or a secret nazi it's that they will have nothing else to lose and only the crazies will offer extreme answers to fill their bloodlust desires.
 
Political violence on the left is a dial that gets turned up or down by the media propagandists. Leftists are quick to burn down businesses and kill a handful of innocents, but make absolutely abysmal warriors.

For all of their chimping and burning during Nigger Summer, what positive, lasting changes have their actions brought?

Right wing political violence is a switch. Right wingers take a long time for that switch to flip from peaceful to KILL THEM ALL, but once they do they are SCARY good at it.

Not only are they good at it, their actions are usually much more effective than leftist political violence.

We haven't had any more Ruby Ridges or Wacos since Cousin Timmy wasted all those glowfags in OKC.

It's been a long time since leftists in this country have had any brains to speak of. But if there WERE any smart lefties out there, they would be encouraging their idiot pals to turn down the rhetorical temperature and lay off the retarded "KILL THE CHUDS" nonsense before they start something they can't finish.
 
This is the thing mobilization can happen very quick and surviving a war tends to do a lot to increase intelligence.
While we might be laughing at pathetic queer activists and their shenanigans now give them time they will be an even worse threat especially kinetically speaking.
It's not that the average normie is a secret commie or a secret nazi it's that they will have nothing else to lose and only the crazies will offer extreme answers to fill their bloodlust desires.
I see your point, but the bloodlust is hard to act on for the left. Soy fed twigs with no muscle tone and zero experience with weapons are nowhere near a threat. All we've seen so far is one retard doing a thing here and there and getting immediately vaporized for it.

They keep threatening some kind of "revolution" which would imply a seizure of power right now. I can hardly imagine a gang of soyfags lobbing stones successfully winning a civil war against the US military and however many hundreds of thousands of bored rednecks.

Afghanis and Vietnamese beat the US because they were dug in, dedicated, knew their land, had experience in guerilla warfare, and weren't afraid of their weapons. The American left has trouble opening bottles independently.

They also have no real leader. There is no Joseph Stalin figure, a strongman willing to lead his men to victory. They have old Jewish women and young blabbering mudslimes and niggers. Imagine being ordered to the frontline by AOC. It'd be comical.
 
Political violence on the left is a dial that gets turned up or down by the media propagandists. Leftists are quick to burn down businesses and kill a handful of innocents, but make absolutely abysmal warriors.

For all of their chimping and burning during Nigger Summer, what positive, lasting changes have their actions brought?

Right wing political violence is a switch. Right wingers take a long time for that switch to flip from peaceful to KILL THEM ALL, but once they do they are SCARY good at it.

Not only are they good at it, their actions are usually much more effective than leftist political violence.

We haven't had any more Ruby Ridges or Wacos since Cousin Timmy wasted all those glowfags in OKC.

It's been a long time since leftists in this country have had any brains to speak of. But if there WERE any smart lefties out there, they would be encouraging their idiot pals to turn down the rhetorical temperature and lay off the retarded "KILL THE CHUDS" nonsense before they start something they can't finish.
The problem with political violence is even from the left or right is once that switch starts it's hard to turn off.
The problem with the left is they have every single offramp to come out clean but they want violence as they see it as a sort of religious manifestation.
I see your point, but the bloodlust is hard to act on for the left. Soy fed twigs with no muscle tone and zero experience with weapons are nowhere near a threat. All we've seen so far is one retard doing a thing here and there and getting immediately vaporized for it.

They keep threatening some kind of "revolution" which would imply a seizure of power right now. I can hardly imagine a gang of soyfags lobbing stones successfully winning a civil war against the US military and however many hundreds of thousands of bored rednecks.

Afghanis and Vietnamese beat the US because they were dug in, dedicated, knew their land, had experience in guerilla warfare, and weren't afraid of their weapons. The American left has trouble opening bottles independently.

They also have no real leader. There is no Joseph Stalin figure, a strongman willing to lead his men to victory. They have old Jewish women and young blabbering mudslimes and niggers. Imagine being ordered to the frontline by AOC. It'd be comical.
The problem isn't that you're going to have an AOC being the next Ho chi ming nor are you going to have a Stalin. It's that the left without any real leadership is going to fracture into insane cults and terror organizations. Instead of a united anti fascist network you're going to have Trans terrorists who will violently murder cis white Americans.
Then you could have a radical racist black militant faction come about and start popping off the race war against whites, Asians, and Hispanics.
It's that your going to have several violent extreme factions that are going to require a USSR style police state to actually keep down to keep the peace.
It would be like the years of lead meets the cartel wads in Mexico during their peak in the 2000s.
The trains still run, the trucks still run, garbage, electricity, sanitation and internet porn still are a thing.
But it would be more of a your riding the CTA train and instead of urban youth throwing rocks and plastic bottles at the trains those urban youth are cut up, dismembered on a fence with a threatening message saying. "Death to nazis" or some shit like that.
The people calling them nazis are let's say some radical trans segment. This sounds absurd until you realize pencil necked commies of the 1970s assassinated the Italian prime minister and were responsible for like 40-60% of the years of lead death.
Conflict draws in competent fighters and violent psychopaths and sociopaths like flies on shit or Alt right dudes and Femboy dakimakuras.
 
For everyone who thinks the modern left can make good on this "threat" of street-level revolution? In any way shape or form? I have four letters:

CHAZ


Killed two innocent black kids, fell to internal fighting and warlordism within 48 hours, 90% of the "footsoldiers" left after the first missed meal, and was eventually cleaned up and driven out by the sanitation department.... because the Mayor was too cucked to send cops... and it still was enough.
 
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For everyone who thinks the modern left can make good on this "threat" of street-level revolution? In any way shape or form? I have four letters:

CHAZ


Killed two innocent black kids, fell to internal fighting and warlordism within 48 hours, 90% of the "footsoldiers" left after the first missed meal, and was eventually cleaned up and driven out by the sanitation department....
CHAZ felt like a fever dream, every crime got more and more bizarre.

Remember how the black kids had stolen a car, and that car belonged to a gay furry company that made bondage gear?
And then it turned out that the stolen jeep belonged to GRRBear Masks, a small company that made puppy masks.
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A happy customer:
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Note that there was also a large dog cage in the trunk. Luckily no dog was in that cage & it makes me wonder if it was ever used to lock up a dog.
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Remember that guy who tried to rape a deaf chick?
So I've been looking into this and it looks like someone was shot to death and somebody else was injured. An blind or deaf woman was reportedly raped. There's an hard ban on filming with your cell phones. People are trying to keep the peace with rifles and shit. Plus there's some autistic social justice rules over their gardens.
A few days later on the afternoon of Thursday June 18th, a 37-year-old protester lured a 25-year-old deaf woman into his tent with a promise of free food and tried to rape her. A passing medic heard commotion in the tent, wrested the woman away from the man and got her out of his tent. After the medic got her out of the tent, the man tried to pull her back in.
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Remember Warlord Raz with the guns and hookers?
Raz handing out his guns:
As long as we're bumping the thread, funny coincidence our fren Raz made the Seattle Times this morning, although probably not for reasons he'd like.

Raz Simone accused by 6 women of sex trafficking

Remember how there were two protestors literally named Summer Taylor and Diaz Love who were run over by a black guy? And how the protestors threw a tantrum because news articles didn't respect their nonbinary pronouns?
Cross post from the riots thread. This happened at about 1:50am pacific time on I-5 in Seattle. Possibly NSFW

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One of the women who got hit goes by the name Diaz Love.
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The 24 year old danger hair nonbinary died.
Her name was Summer Taylor.

And their pathetic wilted garden of plant allies...
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...tended by an unstable meth addict that had better success growing a plant from an infected abscess on his leg:
Travis Berge.

Here he's growing a plant from his leg:
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Who later murdered his girlfriend with a nailgun and drowned in a massive vat of bleach.
Don't forget the dude who murdered a woman and then drowned in bleach.
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Woman killed, man found dead in tank at Cal Anderson Park

SEATTLE — A woman was found dead at Cal Anderson Park and a man who was a person of interest in her death was found dead hours later inside a tank at the pump station at the park.

Seattle police detectives said they are investigating the death of the woman as a domestic violence homicide.
About 8 p.m. Wednesday, officers were called to the northeast part of the park to help Seattle Fire Department medics as they performed CPR on a woman who was unresponsive.

Medics were unable to revive her and she was declared dead at the scene. Detectives called to the park determined that it was a homicide.

Detective Mark Jamieson said the woman had been beaten and her injuries were trauma, though it would be up to the Medical Examiner to determine her cause of death.

On Thursday evening, the King County Medical Examiner identified the woman as 38-year-old Lisa Vach.

Around the same time, officers received reports of a man who had broken into the pump station on the west side of the park.

Multiple sources identify the suspect as Travis Berge – someone very familiar to police, and to KIRO7.

KIRO7 previously interviewed him Berge multiple times about his prolific criminal history - including dozens of arrests - and his methamphetamine addiction.

After speaking with witnesses, officers determined that Berge and the woman killed had a domestic relationship and were staying in a makeshift shelter in the park earlier that night.

Officers tried to get Berge to come out of the pump station, but he barricaded himself inside the building. Negotiators tried to talk to Berge, but eventually SWAT was called.

Police said SWAT officers used a variety of tools and techniques to get the man to surrender peacefully, but he refused to come out of the building.

About 12:30 a.m. Thursday, SWAT officers entered the building and found the man unresponsive at the bottom of a 10-foot tank, which contained about 50 gallons of 12 percent bleach solution. He was declared dead at the scene.

Seattle Fire came back to the park with a hazmat crew to assess the scene and help the medical examiner recover the body.

The medical examiner will determine the cause and manner of death of both people.

Seattle Public Utilities secured the pump house building and said the city’s water supply was not affected.
 
For everyone who thinks the modern left can make good on this "threat" of street-level revolution? In any way shape or form? I have four letters:

CHAZ


Killed two innocent black kids, fell to internal fighting and warlordism within 48 hours, 90% of the "footsoldiers" left after the first missed meal, and was eventually cleaned up and driven out by the sanitation department.... because the Mayor was too cucked to send cops... and it still was enough.
Again with Chaz while we see it as a joke or a failure like the french commune of 1870 it should be taken as a warning the left would overthrow the American government and we would be in a civil war.
The problem with these people is they can get powerful enough driven by media to do something bug like overthrow the government or assainate the right then fall into disunity.
 
This dude is probably a libertarian if he’s an economist at GMU. I see a big gulf between what I consider street libertarians - normal people, often blue collar workers, that are Right wing but opposed to legislating morality, the war/surveillance state and nanny state stuff - and academic libertarians. The former are arguably much closer to Trumpian populism than the DEUS VULT EVROPA faggots are. The latter are utterly deranged. In my experience they buy into everything the Left says about Trump despite doubting them on everything else. But that’s somewhat of an academia problem in general.
 
Should the cow consent to being slaughtered?
Should my dog consent to being leashed?

Fucking consent religion again. Nigger everything is not sex. If you don't like the world's TOS, an hero. What are you going to do? Sue God?

Also If i was visited by feds for public posts expressing a call to violence I would at the very least not post online again.
 
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