When you began to see the world differently ? (I mean politically, ideologically and morally wise)

[The handsome tard]

Its a simple question that piqued my interest. I have reached a point in my life where I began to see how manipulated and constructed all of my moral and ideological beliefs were.

Once saw gays, trannies and etc as actual people that just wanted to be accepted. Once I saw niggers as people identically to me, just with dark skin. And it goes on with the usual suspects. But then one day, my perspective changed, slowly but surely but it did. And suddenly life just looked and felt so different after that.

I used to see history differently until I began to look shit up beyond what the mainstream served and you see how much of history is literally written by the winners. Napoleon said it best when claimed that history was a collection of lies agreed upon. Now I tend to question most of world history if it all really went down way its claimed it did so since, again, written by the winners and the winners will always make themselves seem like the heroes of the situation.

I had reached a point in my life where I realised that the people I wanted to respect and to respect me back want me dead and replaced, my children raped and brainwashed and they think its funny.

I could go on and on but what is your "taking the red pill" story? Where suddenly all your believed suddenly seemed so out of touch and moronic and you wonder how you actually bought into this shit in the first place. And what it changed you into ?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

It wasn't a particular moment, a particular story or a particular incident. It was a slow deconstruction I was subjected to by people that I had otherwise supported, where each of my beliefs was smashed, each of my cherished memories were corrupted, each of my friends was turned into a raving lunatic, each of my hobbies were demolished, every identity I had subscribed to was turned moot and my heart was broken and my soul was murdered.

This started around 2014 and has been going on ever since, though I've grown used to it to an extent.

 

[Colon capital V]

If you think it's bad now, just wait until a hundred years from now schools would unironically teach how January 6th was the second worst thing to happen to america since 9/11.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

If you think it's bad now, just wait until a hundred years from now schools would unironically teach how January 6th was the second worst thing to happen to america since 9/11.

No, they will say that January 6th was worse than 9/11.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

@The handsome tard
Its a simple question that peaked my interest.

And piqued, possibly.

If you think it's bad now, just wait until a hundred years from now schools would unironically teach how January 6th was the second worst thing to happen to america since 9/11.

That will not happen. - They'll be teaching that Jan 6 was the worst terrorist attack ever.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

If you think it's bad

Oh boy, this is worse than that time I went to the Capitol with John Cusack dressed as a shaman

 

[The handsome tard]

It wasn't a particular moment, a particular story or a particular incident. It was a slow deconstruction I was subjected to by people that I had otherwise supported, where each of my beliefs was smashed, each of my cherished memories were corrupted, each of my friends was turned into a raving lunatic, each of my hobbies were demolished, every identity I had subscribed to was turned moot and my heart was broken and my soul was murdered.

This started around 2014 and has been going on ever since, though I've grown used to it to an extent.

Yeah but is there a particular event you remember as being a big contributor towards it?

Im curious at hearing some personal takes of this moment of "realisation"

And piqued, possibly.

Classic mistake. Already fixed it.

Thank you.

 

[Synthetic Smug]

Coverage of Gamergate and the George Zimmerman trial put me in the position of realizing that my peers were both largely credulous and unsafe to speak with openly or even honestly.

The game industry, as it moved to longer production pipelines and became more top heavy, had studios infested with people who (to quote Otterly) 'their only skills were compliance'. There is no hard dividing line between brownnosing and self delusion but the combination of the two made it plain that I should make other long term plans.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Yeah but is there a particular event you remember as being a big contributor towards it?

Im curious at hearing some personal takes of this moment of "realisation"

I think there is one very specific event that happened in 2014, but it's a bit power-levely even though it is not a personal life event.

I felt like I had put on the glasses of They Live! Suddenly none of this was making any sense, all the people around me was very enthusiastic and very onboard with an ideology that I thought immediately to be destructive, insane and driven by grifters. There was, in fact, no ideology at all. The grift was real though. It is of course CURRENT YEAR ideology.

The years have proven me right but few will admit it. And if they do, they're ready to fall for it again anyway.

I cannot describe the primal repulsion I felt towards what was being born in front of me. Wait, I do, in fact, can:

Rosemary's Baby - What have you done to its eyes?

Rosemary sees her baby.

www.youtube.com

 

[Shidoen]

After moving from one state during middle school. Really showed me how much people can be tards and faggots if left to their own devices.

 

[L50LasPak]

I've always had kind of a drearier view of reality than the people around me, even before I was as negative as I tend to be in this day and age. That's really colored my ability to take people at their word and swallow media bullshit. I wouldn't always come to the correct conclusion but there was typically a lot of doubt in my mind on every issue. I could list the points in my life where my faith in the human race died a little more but the reality is it was always a slow downward gradient with the occasional strong drop.

Personally I look down on people who claim to be "redpilled" or "blackpilled" because that implies that one specific event and/or brief window of time was all it took to change your mind and make you see the world through a negative lense. I don't trust anyone like that to remain that way for terribly long, they have no loyalty to that way of thinking. I expect them to try and bargain their way out of it, or take the first option to escape that any grifter or demagogue offers them. And frankly if it only took one event for you to really change your whole outlook, you probably didn't have a very strong personality to begin with.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I don't think I ever did going by notebooks and material I still have around from when I was a kid. Same stupid sense of humor too.

A lot of somewhat dumb people sort of do the seesaw deal where they're constantly acting like motherfucking spastics perennially certain that whichever black and white opinions they hold at this moment are the most correct and important ones possible, rather than simply maintaining a sense of sane moderacy and skepticism.

You see the same thing with people like the terfs, they talk about "peak trans", but in order to reach peak trans you had to have been valley trans (?) previously. You can tell these were absolutely the same kind of people who would've previously been willing to shout you down if you expressed even healthy skepticism towards gender ideology.


If a person simply doesn't form strong opinions on things they have no fucking idea about or which don't directly concern them, then this won't be a problem. You can still have ignorant opinions, I do it all the time, but you don't have to take those opinions so seriously. Plus there's something very odd and even tranny-ish about people who seem convinced they're somehow different people than they were in the past.

 

[The handsome tard]

I think there is one very specific event that happened in 2014, but it's a bit power-levely even though it is not a personal life event.

I felt like I had put on the glasses of They Live! Suddenly none of this was making any sense, all the people around me was very enthusiastic and very onboard with an ideology that I thought immediately to be destructive, insane and driven by grifters. There was, in fact, no ideology at all. The grift was real though. It is of course CURRENT YEAR ideology.

The years have proven me right but few will admit it. And if they do, they're ready to fall for it again anyway.

I cannot describe the primal repulsion I felt towards what was being born in front of me. Wait, I do, in fact, can:

Rosemary's Baby - What have you done to its eyes?

Rosemary sees her baby.

www.youtube.com

For me, it started with things I once thought were small...maybe they were but little did I know how much it would get out of control. It mostly started with the politically correct bullshit from Tumblr and I thought that shit was a result of immaturity and legit holier than tho attitude brought by being terminally online.

But then Tumblr got nuked and I thought that was the end of it.

Then 2016 came and holy fuck...it never stopped since.

Now, yeah, Im withholding a LOT of details but it shows that the signs were already there, I just didnt know it would reach the level we are now.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

For me, it started with things I once thought were small...maybe they were but little did I know how much it would get out of control. It mostly started with the politically correct bullshit from Tumblr and I thought that shit was a result of immaturity and legit holier than tho attitude brought by being terminally online.

But then Tumblr got nuked and I thought that was the end of it.

Then 2016 came and holy fuck...it never stopped since.

Now, yeah, Im withholding a LOT of details but it shows that the signs were already there, I just didnt know it would reach the level we are now.

I can see the signs as early as the mid 00s

It has certainly poisoned my memories.

However, I think the year 2010 is the year when the culture changed, even if it wasn't felt until much later.

 

[The handsome tard]

I can see the signs as early as the mid 00s

It has certainly poisoned my memories.

However, I think the year 2010 is the year when the culture changed, even if it wasn't felt until much later.

There is a reason why people throw the "did we all die in 2012 and this is our collective Hell?" talk. It may be sarcastic, sure, but it sends the message across that there was a paradigm shift that snow balled into our current situation.

The line between old school "just being a good person" and wokeness just kept getting smaller and smaller.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

There is a reason why people throw the "did we all die in 2012 and this is our collective Hell?" talk. It may be sarcastic, sure, but it sends the message across that there was a paradigm shift that snow balled into our current situation.

The line between old school "just being a good person" and wokeness just kept getting smaller and smaller.

"It'S cAlLeD bEiNg A dEcEnT hUmAn BeInG"

 

[Synthetic Smug]

"It'S cAlLeD bEiNg A dEcEnT hUmAn BeInG"

This is the fruition of being told all through your childhood to make the world a better place as a secular substitute for salvation but having no skills to do so beyond telling other people what to do.

 

[Vingle]

I became way more "hateful" of LGB+++'s and niggers, when I moved to the city and actually learned about them. I sort of wish I just remained in the small town out on the country. Sometimes, ignorance is the better choice.

 

[Ita Mori]

Originally in 2006 after first being exposed to bands like Misery Index. whose lyrics range from nationalist libertarian to moderate socialist.
Then in 2017 after seeing the inexplicable hate towards an orange retard who was a lifelong democrat by neoliberals mascarading as democratic socialists...

 

[G19]

I always questioned authority, but 2016 made me wake up to the world around me.

I was a nice kid but never took kindly to being lied to or deceived. Growing up I only ever dealt with liars on a personal level, but once I started to pay more attention to the news, I found out there's a lot more people lying to me than I thought, right there on my TV. On the grand news channels, where we are supposed to receive all the important information needed to function in our society's day-to-day. The facts, the truths researched and uncovered by professional journalists!
...Whenever a story sounded fishy or absolutely outrageous, after some personal digging I would, most of the time, come to the conclusion that a lot of it was half-truths or straight up lies.

Why are these you lying to me, my family, my friends? About people I don't give two licks about like Trump? What do you get out of this? Why do you claim he's a racist and an anti-semite? What even is an anti-semite in the first place? Wait what's this? Holocaust denial laws? Why is questioning something a criminal offense rewarded with years of imprisonment? With years of your life gone? Am I not living in the age of freedom and knowledge?

And the more I dug, the more I realized the "normal" worldview I grew up believing in unquestioningly is being shoved down our throats with laws and all sorts of social and financial coercion. It started with holocaust denial laws, now it's hate speech laws, and you know it's not gonna stop. Free speech is an illusion, and one fundamental truth about the human being, is that we believe what we want to believe. And believing in what the TV man tells us, that we live in the best society ever and the most free world in history and that our vote is actually taken into account... is very comforting. And people want comfort. Everything is okay. Everything will continue to be okay.

I used to believe in that too, but I've dug too much to turn a blind eye anymore. Ignorance is bliss. But bliss comes at a price, and someone will pay for it, sooner or later. Reach for the truth, always.


tl;dr
Media in 2016: "Trump bad! Horrible! Did this and that! Literal Nazi!"
Me: "That sounds ridiculous. Did he really? Wait, no he didn't. Why are you lying? Wait, if you're lying about something so insignificant, what else have we been lied about?"
Rabbit hole moment.