Where to live? - (if you are white)

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harbringer883 said:
In that case west virginia (but there are pretty much no jobs there) or try Iowa or something.
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Even though Iowa has a boring reputation, I second Iowa if someone wants jobs + somewhere cheap and comfortable to live. West Virginia is beautiful but in a really sad state since their industry collapsed harder than where I lived did. Been through West Virginia a few times, and it was one of the most depressing places I have seen, even for rustbelt standards it was miserable. :(
 
Made In Lovely Kin said:
Even though Iowa has a boring reputation, I second Iowa if someone wants jobs + somewhere cheap and comfortable to live. West Virginia is beautiful but in a really sad state since their industry collapsed harder than where I lived did. Been through West Virginia a few times, and it was one of the most depressing places I have seen, even for rustbelt standards it was miserable. :(
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yeah, I hear its pretty bad over there
 
Made In Lovely Kin said:
West Virginia is beautiful but in a really sad state since their industry collapsed harder than where I lived did. Been through West Virginia a few times, and it was one of the most depressing places I have seen, even for rustbelt standards it was miserable. :(
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I have some distant family that still live in West Virginia. Went to the US about 10 years ago and it was really sad then, from what I've heard its only gotten a lot worse.
From what I understand, they are in a good spot by WV standards, right on the Ohio border and not all industry has totally collapsed yet, still a Walmart in town to keep some of the locals employed, etc. Just a poor country town barely hanging on.
I feel so bad for all the people that live deep in the mountains, where its far worse. Most I've seen of that is YouTube videos where there's no jobs, nothing to do, can't even leave since all the trains closed down and cars are expensive.
One of the saddest places I have ever seen. Its even sadder because the landscape is beautiful.

Any Australians here? I'm stuck in a hellhole major city for the moment but even country towns here are being flooded with Jeets. Is the only solution to live in the Outback like the Abos when shit hits the fan, or is there something else I haven't considered yet?
 
YoRHa No. 2 Type B said:
I have some distant family that still live in West Virginia. Went to the US about 10 years ago and it was really sad then, from what I've heard its only gotten a lot worse.
From what I understand, they are in a good spot by WV standards, right on the Ohio border and not all industry has totally collapsed yet, still a Walmart in town to keep some of the locals employed, etc. Just a poor country town barely hanging on.
I feel so bad for all the people that live deep in the mountains, where its far worse. Most I've seen of that is YouTube videos where there's no jobs, nothing to do, can't even leave since all the trains closed down and cars are expensive.
One of the saddest places I have ever seen. Its even sadder because the landscape is beautiful.

Any Australians here? I'm stuck in a hellhole major city for the moment but even country towns here are being flooded with Jeets. Is the only solution to live in the Outback like the Abos when shit hits the fan, or is there something else I haven't considered yet?
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not australian, but you could try a place like newcastle or wollongong I guess
 
harbringer883 said:
not australian, but you could try a place like newcastle or wollongong I guess
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Those places are quite big cities and absolutely flooded with migrants. Not to mention how close they are to Sydney.
I was in a remote town 5 hours from a major city with a population below 1000 recently, and half the town was Vietnamese.
That's how bad its gotten here. Granted this is in Victoria which would be accurately described as the "California of Australia" for how far left it is.
The Outback always exists as a Plan B I guess. But I would have thought, surely there was somewhere else to go?
 
YoRHa No. 2 Type B said:
Those places are quite big cities and absolutely flooded with migrants. Not to mention how close they are to Sydney.
I was in a remote town 5 hours from a major city with a population below 1000 recently, and half the town was Vietnamese.
That's how bad its gotten here. Granted this is in Victoria which would be accurately described as the "California of Australia" for how far left it is.
The Outback always exists as a Plan B I guess. But I would have thought, surely there was somewhere else to go?
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adelaide or something?
 
YoRHa No. 2 Type B said:
Any Australians here? I'm stuck in a hellhole major city for the moment but even country towns here are being flooded with Jeets. Is the only solution to live in the Outback like the Abos when shit hits the fan, or is there something else I haven't considered yet?
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What do you do for a living?
 
Potentially look at jobs in the VLine network, I'd assume that there's drivers based at the end of the train lines for the early shifts, and if you're in the maintenance side, I know there's rail yards all over the place.
I'm partial to Gippsland (because I love it here), but realistically, there's Stabling yards all over the place. Driving half an hour from a regional town can put you into the bush, or a smaller, quieter town.
If possible avoid towns with a railway station (ironically). I used to live in Romsey, which is 60ish kms from Melbourne, but we had no homeless, no graffiti, and no migrants because you couldn't get to a centrelink office via public transport. It was only 20 minutes by car to Woodend or Wallan though, both of which are on the train lines.

Eta: otherwise, there's coal trains up in Queensland, there's sugar trains in the season, and I recently met a guy who used to be a diesel mechanic on the railroad who now works a a ski-lift technician on Mt Hotham.

Depending on your skillset, you might not be tied to the railways forever, you might be able to apply your skills elsewhere.
 
Frostnipped Todger said:
Potentially look at jobs in the VLine network, I'd assume that there's drivers based at the end of the train lines for the early shifts, and if you're in the maintenance side, I know there's rail yards all over the place.
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I have considered VLine before, they have several regional locations for my role but its only located at the cities at the end of the Myki network (Bendigo/Ballarat/Geelong/Seymour/Traralgon), as well as Wodonga and Warrnambool. Its also very hard to get in, not as competitive as Metro at least.
They don't usually have any staff at the end of the long distance lines like Bairnsdale, aside from part time station staff. Everyone else is based at the nearest interurban terminus (e.g., Traralgon).
Frostnipped Todger said:
I'm partial to Gippsland (because I love it here), but realistically, there's Stabling yards all over the place. Driving half an hour from a regional town can put you into the bush, or a smaller, quieter town.
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I love Gippsland as well but the only jobs VLine has down that way are in Traralgon (conductor + driver), and part time customer service jobs out of a few bigger stations. Numbers are very limited too, so wouldn't be a real option unfortunately.
Frostnipped Todger said:
If possible avoid towns with a railway station (ironically). I used to live in Romsey, which is 60ish kms from Melbourne, but we had no homeless, no graffiti, and no migrants because you couldn't get to a centrelink office via public transport. It was only 20 minutes by car to Woodend or Wallan though, both of which are on the train lines.
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Yeah, Romsey is nice. Its growing now because Wallan and Sunbury are beginning to be swallowed into Melbourne (everything nearby grows as a result), so probably not the town you remember.
Thanks for taking the time to reply to me, I'll have a look and see what happens.
 
If one were to live self-sufficiently in a somewhat remote area with not a huge amount of contact to the nearest people, or at least not a focus on the community but more on being left alone, would something like rural West Virginia be an option? The kind of place that's mostly forgotten and ignored by anyone so it might take the Feds rather long before they come and shoot your dog for wanting to live on your own.
 
Meriasek said:
If one were to live self-sufficiently in a somewhat remote area with not a huge amount of contact to the nearest people, or at least not a focus on the community but more on being left alone, would something like rural West Virginia be an option? The kind of place that's mostly forgotten and ignored by anyone so it might take the Feds rather long before they come and shoot your dog for wanting to live on your own.
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I mean, rural anywhere (except deserts) is good
 
Meriasek said:
If one were to live self-sufficiently in a somewhat remote area with not a huge amount of contact to the nearest people, or at least not a focus on the community but more on being left alone, would something like rural West Virginia be an option? The kind of place that's mostly forgotten and ignored by anyone so it might take the Feds rather long before they come and shoot your dog for wanting to live on your own.
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I always thought Montana and Idaho because how isolated they are. West Virginia is very isolated, but not to the extent of the former two. Depends on how isolated you want to be to be fair. I knew some who tried doing hard with isolating themselves, and it really fucked them up, or they found out how expensive some of these isolated places were. If you are considering affordability, again, I think West Virginia is the best choice. More people are leaving it than staying.
 
Made In Lovely Kin said:
I always thought Montana and Idaho because how isolated they are. West Virginia is very isolated, but not to the extent of the former two. Depends on how isolated you want to be to be fair. I knew some who tried doing hard with isolating themselves, and it really fucked them up, or they found out how expensive some of these isolated places were. If you are considering affordability, again, I think West Virginia is the best choice. More people are leaving it than staying.
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Yeah, thats the thing. Montana and Idaho are expensive. WV is nearly as isolated, but they're also cheap and dysfunctional, so the Feds have better things to do than shoot your dog.
 
I would never suggest people move to Appalachia, it's full, fuck off, but if a kiwi wants to, there may just be one space left.
 
Brenda Holiday said:
I would never suggest people move to Appalachia, it's full, fuck off, but if a kiwi wants to, there may just be one space left.
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Applies to many parts, are you guys getting tourist infested too? :(
 
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