Where's my Cool Cyberpunk City? (OR: Societal improvements that could easily be done if our politicians weren't fucking cowards)

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One of the worst things about being stuck living in CURRENT YEAR is that so many of the things that could be done to almost objectively improve society are so simple and straightforward that it's agonizingly embarrassing that not a single limp dick politician or chickenshit bureaucrat has the balls to lift a finger to even get started on it.
Technology has rocketed past our wildest dreams from even 30 years ago, but our cultures and economies have gotten worse, and our physical surroundings remain mostly the same boring 20th-century shit, even worse in some cases, no cool architecture or fashion or cyber-tech or anything that we thought would manifest in the far future of the year 2000.

I'm not talking about any culture war bullshit here, not advocating for any kind of extremism, just talking about almost apolitical building projects, zoning law reform, minor economic policy changes, that sort of thing. In fact, part of the problem is that everyone is so laser-focused on shilling their extreme ideology that will replace the reigning system and getting distracted by retarded culture war shit that they pay absolutely no attention to obvious solutions that almost nobody would have any reasonable problem with. But really, this video explains the whole situation better than I could:
This one too:
NGL, this guy is obviously a bit of a lefty, but hes not an intolerable wokeist/tankie/breadtuber, and he makes some decent points that I think most sane people can agree with.

What are your ideas for policy changes/public works projects that would easily improve society in whatever country you live in?
What are the damp towels in your country's government procrastinating on?
What kinda cool futuristic shit would you want to see in the next 50-100 years?
In case I need to say it, try and avoid extremely ideological or culture war-focused shit, but if what you talk about would benefit your side of the culture war, then feel free to explain how.

Honestly, I think its a little unfortunate that we worry so much about the "live in a pod and eat the bugs" future, but nobody is trying to combat that by providing a more optimistic vision of the future, we're all too concerned with trying to conserve a dull present or "go back to the way things were".
Well, hate to break it to ya buddy, but we will never be able to go back to the way things were.
Like it or not, we'll all end up living in the future anyway, so why not dream of a better one?
 
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I’m waiting for when I can become a cyborg. Right now chopping off my own feet for prosthetic ones is seen as “abnormal behaviour” and “we just met please stop talking to me”.
Ingrown toenails suck and I have been cursed with big toe that are naturally inclined to getting them.
 
Honestly, I think its a little unfortunate that we worry so much about the "live in a pod and eat the bugs" future, but nobody is trying to combat that by providing a more optimistic vision of the future
wanking about fictional utopianism is kinda pointless as long as the "live in a pod and eat the bugs" people are in power and actively snuff out any opposition to their plans tbh
 
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I know this is a shitpost, but there is a lot that could be done to reduce obesity in America, like making less car-dependent cities and stricter regulation of junk food but nobody does it because "change bad" and "muh free market". The free market argument does not address the fact that most people are pretty fucking stupid in a lot of ways and will buy whatever garbage they have cheap access to. Yes, it's the free market at work, but it's not good work.
wanking about fictional utopianism is kinda pointless as long as the "live in a pod and eat the bugs" people are in power and actively snuff out any opposition to their plans tbh
Ok, you pussy "boo-hoo everythings fucked" pessimist bitch.
Think of it this way, If you haven't completely surrendered like a bitch, and still hold out hope that some sort of victory is possible, then you have to have some idea of what you want the future to look like once that victory happens, otherwise not only is your victory going to be a dead-end, you also have no platform, no incentive, nothing to rally people with in the first place.
If you don't articulate what you want for yourself and others, then you are putting yourself at a disadvantage,
because the enemy already knows for damn sure what it wants.
It's not enough to say "I don't want that",
you have to be able to say "heres what I want instead", and be precise about it, make it actionable.
 
Your videos are the standard globalist "live in the pod stuff". The first one is shilling a British rail project that is way, way, way, over budget (at least he admits this, but he concludes that they should do it anyway because China did it), as well as proposing flooding half of Australia, and building Special Economic Zones in first-world countries. In the second video, the guy blames high housing prices in the US on single-family zoning and in the same breath blames high housing prices in the UK on a law that mandates high-density living by forbidding rural development. He also "debunks" the fact that immigration causes the prices of housing to go up by saying that if you just built enough houses for all the immigrants there wouldn't be any issue. That's not a real debunking because had the immigrants never come, they would have never placed upwards pressure on housing prices in the first place! At least he admits that rent control is a bad idea.

Nothing in either of those videos is cyberpunk, and half of the first one and all of the second one are literally ideas from UN Agenda 2030/The Great Reset.
 
I know this is a shitpost, but there is a lot that could be done to reduce obesity in America, like making less car-dependent cities and stricter regulation of junk food but nobody does it because "change bad" and "muh free market". The free market argument does not address the fact that most people are pretty fucking stupid in a lot of ways and will buy whatever garbage they have cheap access to. Yes, it's the free market at work, but it's not good work.
This mentality is no different from the "live in a pod" people. Your OP seems to just be a "we can shape society better than the current ones in power".
 
This mentality is no different from the "live in a pod" people. Your OP seems to just be a "we can shape society better than the current ones in power".
do tell me what you'd do instead to fix anything, elightened non-interventionist. What grand ideas do you have to improve society?
 
It's not enough to say "I don't want that",
you have to be able to say "heres what I want instead", and be precise about it, make it actionable.
yes it is.
remove nigger, remove third world immigration, remove open borders, remove the 'progressive' policies of the past 70 years, and most of the problems we have with modern society are resolved.

there is no need for grand utopian visions for the future. we already had a functional society, all that is needed is remove the hostile influences that have sabotaged and ruined it and undo the damage they deliberately caused.
 
This Youtube channel (Isaac Arthur, one of my favorites) is these days one of the most bittersweet to watch because the guy behind it is so optimistic that it makes you desperately want his vision of the future to be true but even he points out how the technology "could be" misused (and sometimes gives a handwave for how it wouldn't, and sometimes doesn't even bother to explain how it wouldn't be misused which is terrifying).

OP should keep in mind the government hates you, the average normie, and wants you to fail. They want to make a crisis so they can push their own "solution". Climate change is the best example, where if we were truly doomed by climate change we'd be waving the rules and liability to let blatantly unsafe nuclear power plants operate and throwing billions at that industry among so many other things (like not importing so much from China on insanely polluting diesel cargo ships).

You want the best future, then we should stop worrying about "efficiency". To hell with that bullshit. Even Moviebob doesn't worry about it when he imagines fields of wheat on the Moon. That push for efficiency is why we have the "live in pod, eat bugs and soy" mindset to begin with and the insane propaganda push behind it. I think the optimal future is just making it so we can live whatever life we choose. If I want to live in the middle of nowhere, it shouldn't be much harder than being in a flashy modern city with fancy mass transit. I would most like self-driving cars, because I hate long commutes to work and would rather take a nap, and it sucks they'll use self-driving cars as an excuse to control us even further. And thinking of that Youtube channel, I sure wouldn't mind living on a space colony with rural population density, even though at this rate if they ever build an O'Neill cylinder it'll just be a cyberpunk hellscape but IN SPACE.
 
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The ideal cyperbunk utobia. You may not like it but this is what peak cyberpunk looks like.
 
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The stupidest idea in the video is the cyberpunk US city one. He slides on by the fact existing cities are crumbling, among many other issues. Building new cities would only exacerbate the issues. And he also somehow believes that a new city can just be made by zoning it alone. Then he has to be stupider and say that farmers hold no power, despite them controlling food supply quite directly.

Aussie river construction is less dumb than this and would arguably be a net positive if it could be competently done. With modern Australia, though, I doubt it.
 
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