Flavius Claudius Julianus
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If we're talking serious study beyond '10 survival phrases' ran through for travel, I'd have to say four: French, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese.
As a native, especially educated English speaker, I had a huge leg up with French. Doubly so given I had a classical education and had a solid grasp of Latin. An hour of music here and there, some films every now and again, and regular rote memorisation gave me an enormous leg up when I was actually 'in situ' in France.
Japanese was second, spurred on my teenage Japanophilia. The 'alphabets' are not difficult at all, and grammar at the basic level is manageable even for first-second language learners. With an increasing intrusion of katakana in place of historically kanji/hiragana-laden words, Japanese is, strictly speaking, becoming easier over time for learners.
Korean. Learned because I was engaged to a Korean woman. I found my Japanese knowledge a helpful springboard, and the simplicity of the hangul alphabet meant I could handle reading and writing quite rapidly. Grammar is difficult, and the difference between banmal/more formal language is significant. Many Korean learners find they wade into murky territory progressing from beginner-intermediate to proficient levels of understanding - I was no different. Also, numerous different number systems is a pain in the arse.
Chinese is just fucking hard. More tones, more characters, just insanely more difficult. You have genderless language which is a benefit, but it's still incredibly more difficult than the above languages by a long shot. Immersion is absolutely critical if you want to progress beyond rank beginner.
Shortly before I got married I was learning the Georgian script, which, though it reminded me of Greek (again, classical education,) I ultimately had little time on it before I got involved in other shit.
As a native, especially educated English speaker, I had a huge leg up with French. Doubly so given I had a classical education and had a solid grasp of Latin. An hour of music here and there, some films every now and again, and regular rote memorisation gave me an enormous leg up when I was actually 'in situ' in France.
Japanese was second, spurred on my teenage Japanophilia. The 'alphabets' are not difficult at all, and grammar at the basic level is manageable even for first-second language learners. With an increasing intrusion of katakana in place of historically kanji/hiragana-laden words, Japanese is, strictly speaking, becoming easier over time for learners.
Korean. Learned because I was engaged to a Korean woman. I found my Japanese knowledge a helpful springboard, and the simplicity of the hangul alphabet meant I could handle reading and writing quite rapidly. Grammar is difficult, and the difference between banmal/more formal language is significant. Many Korean learners find they wade into murky territory progressing from beginner-intermediate to proficient levels of understanding - I was no different. Also, numerous different number systems is a pain in the arse.
Chinese is just fucking hard. More tones, more characters, just insanely more difficult. You have genderless language which is a benefit, but it's still incredibly more difficult than the above languages by a long shot. Immersion is absolutely critical if you want to progress beyond rank beginner.
Shortly before I got married I was learning the Georgian script, which, though it reminded me of Greek (again, classical education,) I ultimately had little time on it before I got involved in other shit.