Which meds would take away certain traits of Autism?

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Hey.

I have the following traits.

Pacing/stimming: it feels like I have too much energy sometimes. It is impossible to stop, trust me I've tried.
Compulsive thoughts: I know it's my mind that's telling me to do this but it gets to a point where I just give in and do it.
Rumination/obsession: I have dealt with this all of my life and to this day I have not found a solution for it, playing mindtricks with my head isn't enough.

I would like to keep the unique way of thinking and the intellectual skills that I have as I feel those are positives in my life.

What meds would you suggest?
 
Antidepressants that work for OCD will work to get rid of two out of three of your traits.

For the pacing/stimming just embrace it and shake the energy out. If you're in private, then no one is gonna see thus it doesn't matter how autistic it looks
 
Living with autism, I've tried some meds but it's hard to get rid of all the shit you don't like without also changing your personality and way of thinking.
Just learn to live with the quirks you have, use them to your advantage.
Pacing/stimming: it feels like I have too much energy sometimes. It is impossible to stop, trust me I've tried.
Use that energy productively.
Learn a skill, get fit or make money, there are many choices out there.
Compulsive thoughts: I know it's my mind that's telling me to do this but it gets to a point where I just give in and do it.
If you know it's in your head then don't just give in.
Tell your thoughts to fuck off.
Rumination/obsession: I have dealt with this all of my life and to this day I have not found a solution for it, playing mindtricks with my head isn't enough.
What do you obsess about?
 
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microdoses of psilocybin
Not the first time I’ve heard of this treatment. The thing about psychedelic treatments for neurological conditions, is this basically how it works? You stimulate areas of the brain not normally used and it sort of like, reboots itself like a computer. Is that close?
 
Antidepressants that work for OCD will work to get rid of two out of three of your traits.

For the pacing/stimming just embrace it and shake the energy out. If you're in private, then no one is gonna see thus it doesn't matter how autistic it looks

Second this.

Your basic bitch SSRI is likely to help with some of the OCD traits. It's also pretty easy to obtain since it has no street value and a pretty good side effect profile (besides ED and inability to orgasm).

Pretty much all meds are off-label for autism (ie. They were developed for another disease but are sometimes used for autism symptoms that sound similar, but who knows?)

The pacing and hyperactivity could theoretically respond to ADHD stimulants. But that would also be off-label, are controlled substances that are essentially prescription meth and have worse adverse effect profiles (insomnia, tics, cardiac arrhythmias, etc).
 
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is this basically how it works? You stimulate areas of the brain not normally used and it sort of like, reboots itself like a computer. Is that close?
First, I would like to disclose that I have a clinical diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder.
Psilocybin interacts with serotonin receptors mostly in the prefrontal cortex.
I have found that ingesting small amounts of psilocybin during my breakfast makes me much more sociable during my work hours. It also helps suppress what many medical professionals would label as "autistic tics" like stimming and flapping.

Of course, however, this is an expensive solution to a life-long ailment with no known "cure," if a cure could ever be formulated.
It is also a self-administered treatment with zero backing evidence in present medical literature, pending heavily controlled medical trials at research universities. I can only attest to my personal anecdotal experience. Do this at your own risk after doing informed reading.
Everyone responds to psychedelic substances in unique and different ways, and some will react much more harshly than others.
You could think of psilocybin as a significantly more potent SSRI that has unique drawbacks as well as benefits, however, psilocybin is also an entirely unresearched chemical in a professional clinical context. Use it at your own risk.
 
First, I would like to disclose that I have a clinical diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder.
Psilocybin interacts with serotonin receptors mostly in the prefrontal cortex.
I have found that ingesting small amounts of psilocybin during my breakfast makes me much more sociable during my work hours. It also helps suppress what many medical professionals would label as "autistic tics" like stimming and flapping.

Of course, however, this is an expensive solution to a life-long ailment with no known "cure," if a cure could ever be formulated.
It is also a self-administered treatment with zero backing evidence in present medical literature, pending heavily controlled medical trials at research universities. I can only attest to my personal anecdotal experience. Do this at your own risk after doing informed reading.
Everyone responds to psychedelic substances in unique and different ways, and some will react much more harshly than others.
You could think of psilocybin as a significantly more potent SSRI that has unique drawbacks as well as benefits, however, psilocybin is also an entirely unresearched chemical in a professional clinical context. Use it at your own risk.
that is definitely true. The results can be unpredictable.

I was curious about it but not as much now that I am reminded of how risky it is.
 
some people self medicate with large ammounts of caffeine. Stimulants iirc have the opposite effect and can calm down someone with compulsive symptoms or ADHD . Don't know to what extend this is true.

Also heard something similar of tobacco helping reduce psychosis i think.
 
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I suffer from all your described symptoms, OP, and I have to agree with people saying alcohol. But you'll resent its absence when you're sober soon, too.

People like you, me, and Josh Block are all cursed to either be spazzy and having panic attacks or else really drunk, and then eventually we're just both all the time. :(
 
Sounds like you have both autism and OCD (same here). I'm going to focus on the OCD traits you're describing because I've found that part of my condition to be a lot more treatable.

A lot of people are suggesting SSRIs, and those are a valid option you can consider, but I was personally too concerned by the side-effects. They blunt negative emotions but they also blunt positive emotions too. I'm also aware of cases where people have had side-effects even years after coming off them. Look up Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction. You can also experience anhedonia, which is a complete loss of joy and pleasure. But don't write it off completely. There are lots of people who will tell you it helps them and don't regret it.

This is not something I would necessarily recommend, as I don't believe it's healthy to dependent on any drug, but what helped me was actually nicotine. I found that when I started using it my obsessive thoughts became a lot more manageable. Nicotine has a really bad reputation because people associate it with cigarettes and all the health problems they cause. These issues are caused by smoking tobacco, not by the substance itself.

The physical health risks for the methods I'm using for ingesting it (vapes and nicotine pouches like Zyns) are safe enough that I'm happy with the trade-off. But, with all that said, if you try to quit your anxiety will be significantly worse than it was before you started, so think very carefully if this is an option you want to pursue. I've accepted at this point that I'm going to be a life-long addict. If that sentence scares you, don't try it. You're (hopefully) an adult and are in charge of your own medical decisions.

Conversely, if you consume a lot of caffeine, cut back on it. If you drink energy drinks, start drinking coffee instead.

What I would definitely recommend you look into is Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. That helped me massively, and if you find it doesn't work for you then no harm done.

I don't know anything about your life, but do you have a job (or more specifically, one where you aren't working from home)? Do you actively go out and do things in the real world? I found my OCD was at its worst when I was a homebody, because I had nothing to distract myself from my own thoughts.

It also made it really easy to fall into an Internet addiction (which was exacerbated by the fact a lot of my OCD obsessions were tied into security and privacy - I became obsessed with the idea of being spied on). Which created this situation were the Internet was paradoxically both my main form of escape and the main source of my anxiety.

If that last sentence in any way resonates with you, this helped for me: I ended up having to "detox" for a while by imposing a rule on myself that I could only use the Internet outside of my own home. I'd go to a library or a café for a couple of hours. It got me into the real world and also made it easier to deal with being bored when I was at home. I only did this for a couple of months but it worked wonders for getting me "out of my own head".

None of the things I'm suggesting may be applicable to you, I can only suggest what worked for me. But in any case, good luck. It's a fucker of a mental illness to deal with.
 
Not the first time I’ve heard of this treatment. The thing about psychedelic treatments for neurological conditions, is this basically how it works? You stimulate areas of the brain not normally used and it sort of like, reboots itself like a computer. Is that close?
Psychedelics can build new connections within the brain. This helps with conditions that occur due to areas of the brain underperforming as the new connections mean that there is now more traffic within that area of the brain. The drawback works on the same principle. Too many connections, too much busy work. You may have seen the brain melt that long term users begin to present with as they advocate for greater and greater use. They can give themselves a form of psychosis and dissociation. As far as I am aware, there is no antidote to psychedelics or its long term use affects. This is why "microdosing" is preferable among patients and self-medicating types. Psychedelics can be very helpful for some but debilitating if used inappropriately.
 
Psychedelics can build new connections within the brain. This helps with conditions that occur due to areas of the brain underperforming as the new connections mean that there is now more traffic within that area of the brain. The drawback works on the same principle. Too many connections, too much busy work. You may have seen the brain melt that long term users begin to present with as they advocate for greater and greater use. They can give themselves a form of psychosis and dissociation. As far as I am aware, there is no antidote to psychedelics or its long term use affects. This is why "microdosing" is preferable among patients and self-medicating types. Psychedelics can be very helpful for some but debilitating if used inappropriately.
I would absolutely hate to acquire schizophrenia.
 
I have the following traits.

Pacing/stimming: it feels like I have too much energy sometimes. It is impossible to stop, trust me I've tried.
Compulsive thoughts: I know it's my mind that's telling me to do this but it gets to a point where I just give in and do it.
Rumination/obsession: I have dealt with this all of my life and to this day I have not found a solution for it, playing mindtricks with my head isn't enough.

If these are the only traits then you may just have bad anxiety and that has completely different treatments.
 
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