WHICH ONE : (drawing display) Huion Kamvas 22 plus or 24 pro - (prime day)

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an artist I am not
but I've looked at enough twitter troons to decide I need to dump my career and doodle for patreon bucks

seriously though
Sophie keeps hogging his husband's tablet so the staff at Assigned Hitler needs new gear b/c of the work backlog

OK OK

I've got some fun money to burn on amazon prime day and the deals look pretty decent

I'm not a big digital art guy (nooo, you don't say) and [powerlevel disclosure] stopped using autoCAD around R12 and used to use summasketch tablets...I'm a pencil spinner and still have a Mutoh machine on a planhold table

I don't need it for work, but I thought it'd be fun to sort of just get modern on what's happening these days

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AS FAR AS THE DISPLAYS

The Huion looks like the price performer right now and seems to get good reviews

BUT the PRO doesn't just look to be a "better plus" - it looks like they add/cut in different areas
from what I've learned
the pro is a dimmer display (150ish nits as opposed to 350ish of the plus)
there is more paralax on the pro (I'm guessing thicker glass), not sure how much worse it is n practice tho
Some reviews show that accuracy/jumping around the corners of the 24 isn't great

The plus is 1080p instead of 2K
the screen surface has less "tooth"
no macro buttons (I doubt I'd care, since we are talking desktop size anyway there are too many control options)
It uses USB for all connections (including power)* not HDMI etc - but I guess that's a matter of using a breakout box


anyway, any thoughts????
I'm gravitating to the 22 right now just b/c of the cost diff and I'm really just learning again - so it's a total luxury spend







*I haven't stayed on top of that stuff USB 3 standards for all that. not sure if it'll be a hassle.
 
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Grand Fucktard said:
an artist I am not
but I've looked at enough twitter troons to decide I need to dump my career and doodle for patreon bucks

seriously though
Sophie keeps hogging his husband's tablet so the staff at Assigned Hitler needs new gear b/c of the work backlog

OK OK

I've got some fun money to burn on amazon prime day and the deals look pretty decent

I'm not a big digital art guy (nooo, you don't say) and [powerlevel disclosure] stopped using autoCAD around R12 and used to use summasketch tablets...I'm a pencil spinner and still have a Mutoh machine on a planhold table

I don't need it for work, but I thought it'd be fun to sort of just get modern on what's happening these days

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AS FAR AS THE DISPLAYS

The Huion looks like the price performer right now and seems to get good reviews

BUT the PRO doesn't just look to be a "better plus" - it looks like they add/cut in different areas
from what I've learned
the pro is a dimmer display (150ish nits as opposed to 350ish of the plus)
there is more paralax on the pro (I'm guessing thicker glass), not sure how much worse it is n practice tho
Some reviews show that accuracy/jumping around the corners of the 24 isn't great

The plus is 1080p instead of 2K
the screen surface has less "tooth"
no macro buttons (I doubt I'd care, since we are talking desktop size anyway there are too many control options)
It uses USB for all connections (including power)* not HDMI etc - but I guess that's a matter of using a breakout box


anyway, any thoughts????
I'm gravitating to the 22 right now just b/c of the cost diff and I'm really just learning again - so it's a total luxury spend







*I haven't stayed on top of that stuff USB 3 standards for all that. not sure if it'll be a hassle.
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I've taken up day drinking and have absolutely no idea what more half of those words mean.
 
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Wowcoolusername said:
I've taken up day drinking and have absolutely no idea what more half of those words mean.
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you JUST NOW took up day drinking?

geez gotta give you a late tag then

Tooth (it's the texture of paper matters with physical drawing...how pencils leave graphite, how pens take -- but you get used to the feel)
I'm from the manual drafting/drawing world (A" pencil spinner" comes from how you spin your pencil so that the tip stays sharp, round and even for better lines) so the feel is really something you get sort of used to (like the dif between working on a vinyl drafting table cover and right on the melamine)

I do a little sumi-e (very..VERY poorly) and brush and ink feel there is a ridicul-big deal
I thought digital might be fun to try for sumi-e even though it's sort of anti-thetical to the whole philosophy


paralax - Ok you are drawing on glass, but the actual display LCD components are on the bottom side of the glass - so your nib (the pen tip) is physically separated by the distance of the glass.
Paralax (in this use) is the displacement you see as you get off-angle (like how a nearfield object and a distant object change alignment as your perspective shifts (it's how backgrounds were done in old driving games, etc)
- for pen stuff it's just weird if the cursor isn't under your pen...old tablets were really bad abt it (one reason I never made the leap) it just felt weird. That one probably bothered me more than ppl who started on digital equipment

summasketch, mutoh, planhold -- just obsolete stuff to give a sense on where I'm coming from
Mutoh is a (the) big maker of drafting machines (those heads with straight edges on those bars that you zip around a drafting table),
planhold - my favorite drafting table company
summasketch - those were non-display high precision digitizer tablets back in the day -- they used a mouselike puck

the connection stuff -- eh that shit is always changing, so as long as I can stay compatible
 
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If you don't know what you're doing you don't need a fancy rope to tie a noose. Don't get bogged down in the details at this point is my advice.
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fair enough - it's pretty much a luxury toy purchase
and there's a use it or lose it component to the money (I'm married)

and I figured I might as well get something I can grow into - esp since I used to do manual drafting, etc some of the more primitive digital stuff years past turned me off going digital b/c of the very non-paperlike experience (the glorified light-pen feel)
so I might be overly sensitized to that stuff moreso than someone who came up doing digital from the get go
 
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Grand Fucktard said:
fair enough - it's pretty much a luxury toy purchase
and there's a use it or lose it component to the money (I'm married)

and I figured I might as well get something I can grow into - esp since I used to do manual drafting, etc some of the more primitive digital stuff years past turned me off going digital b/c of the very non-paperlike experience (the glorified light-pen feel)
so I might be overly sensitized to that stuff moreso than someone who came up doing digital from the get go
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I remember the old tablets! (I even had a koala pad for my Apple ][+)
I don't know shit about shit these days, but as an old hand you got me wondering.
can you effectively use a french curve on these new-flanged gizmos?
Luckily, I can just send shit down the the CAD dept
 
I'd go with the 22. The 24 looks nice, but with that panel it's due for a refresh within a year.

The quantum dot displays are the shit.

Huion is pretty good, with a quirk or two. For multimonitor displays the most recent drivers are messed up, use the previous ones. Also the parallax increases as you get closer to the edge. Not a big deal but noticeable.
 
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>buying from amazon
That’s your first mistake
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But they are runaway capitalism which troons hate! - so it warms my heart 'which pumps not blood , but rather a thick, vomitous oil'
(and they've got a liberal,no costreturn policy -- sadly, in my area they've run retailers into the ground and it's support your local retailer by not getting the product you were looking for or getting the product you were trying to buy)
 
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Synthetic Smug said:
I'd go with the 22. The 24 looks nice, but with that panel it's due for a refresh within a year.

The quantum dot displays are the shit.

Huion is pretty good, with a quirk or two. For multimonitor displays the most recent drivers are messed up, use the previous ones. Also the parallax increases as you get closer to the edge. Not a big deal but noticeable.
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thanks - good point - the display brightness on the 24 seems kinda low anyway

given your point about the due for a refresh - If I get to where I need more res - the displays will have changed by then)
 
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I would've had something better to say, but when I looked into Huion's current tablet ranges my jaw dropped. They're mostly wireless now, what the fuck.
 
Mister Qwerty said:
Brad Colbow does pretty good reviews on drawing tablets

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Thanks! yeah I hit all the YT reviews before bugging you guys
(I like Teoh Yi Chie b/c he does a lot of physical pen and ink, etc stuff)

but they all seemed fairly inconclusive - that's was the issue, it wasn't just that the 24 was hopped up and better across the board
 
not to hijack the thread...but I'm hijacking the thread.

What about larger format (22+) displays used more as a (not specifically for drawing, more gen purpose) control surface?
so touchscreen with (hopefully) some stylus functionality
A good example JUST an example - I'm thinking more general purpose) might be audio mixing applications that have sort of digitally reconstructed a physical console - but then one winds up working faders (or worse, rotary controls) with a mouse

So basically the same positiong/format as a drawing thing, but more designed for touch use is what I'm interested in...oh, and good color accuracy in flesh tones
for...reasons
 
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