Which philosopher do you dislike the most and why? - Massive ego, autistic levels of verbosity, shallowness, degenerateness or just plain boring.

[Kulee Baba]

Try reading her other less famous work The Fountainhead. It's a lot more in tune with her original ideas then the mess that Atlas Shrugged became and it's less then 300 pages and moves along quite quickly. It's a bit...rapey...near the middle but thats just Rand's personal habits leaking thru but other then that it's quite digestible.

Roark is her perfect man and in many ways he is. Too perfect of course but all of Rand's heroes are meant to be archetypes rather then actual people. Both Dominic and Dagny are just motivation for her heroes but again Rand was a writer in the 50's so that's to be expected.

The speech Ellesworth gives at the end is a great summation of the sickness infecting modern day society and Rand called it back in the 60'ties. I think in the future, once we've passed thru the hell that is modern day philosophy, her books will be viewed in a more favourable light.

It says a lot that the film adaptation which was panned by the critics has now been reassessed as a great movie.

Rand was treated like a lolcow by the academic circles. They still will always ridicule her works (they're definitely not perfect) but they can't deny that it has left an impression.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Try reading her other less famous work The Fountainhead. It's a lot more in tune with her original ideas then the mess that Atlas Shrugged became and it's less then 300 pages and moves along quite quickly. It's a bit...rapey...near the middle but thats just Rand's personal habits leaking thru but other then that it's quite digestible.

Roark is her perfect man and in many ways he is. Too perfect of course but all of Rand's heroes are meant to be archetypes rather then actual people. Both Dominic and Dagny are just motivation for her heroes but again Rand was a writer in the 50's so that's to be expected.

The speech Ellesworth gives at the end is a great summation of the sickness infecting modern day society and Rand called it back in the 60'ties. I think in the future, once we've passed thru the hell that is modern day philosophy, her books will be viewed in a more favourable light.

I’ve read a lot of her stuff, and overall I would say she makes good points even if I am personally more moderate on certain things. Sometimes you need to be worried about numero uno, fuck you got mine is a valid option, and government involvement in capitalism is a very risky proposal. However, we also need some rules around here so it’s about balance.
I just don’t know why her fans are so crazy, aside from Marxists it’s hard to find such a group of retards like them.

 

[No. 7 cat]

I really hate Machiavelli the proto chud, he is the equivalent of an incel giving sex advice.
How it is better to be feared than loved if you can't have both? People that fear you will always be half-hearted and will not throw their lives for you and will most likely develop resentment, hatred and contempt towards you, like that retard Domitian from Ancient Rome, dumb faggot. And what about the kind of society that this retardation creates? It is because some people will take your goodwill for granted? Than it is not really love, isn't? Sound more like indifference to me than anything, fuckwit.
It just baffles me how politician pick this fucking meme of a philosopher to teach them about politics just because of his stupid meme quote and ignores his mistakes as a politician in a field that practice is everything.

Machiavelli did certainly choose fear but said a good leader needs to be both feared and loved, which is sensible. A notable model for him was Cesare Borgia who under the partial patronage of his father Rodrigo, reigning as Pope Alexander, amassed notable power, but while a skilled politician and soldier, Cesare's power vanished when his father died and he perished as a mercenary in the Pyrenees. His political analysis seems far more practical than many philosophers, but Machiavelli does indeed seem another example where the philosopher's idea or hero falls a little short in the real world. Cesare was a nothing without the power of a patron whether Pope or Navarrese king, who had hired him.

 

[BLACKHAWK_Entropy]

NIETCZHE.

le god is le dead
but I am heckin polish because i choose to ack

its not that the idea is wrong its just scary.
i hate philosophers they rally others because they want them to be the cannon fodder. manmade paradise is optimisitic dillusion that will force young kids to sacrifice themselves for war. this philosophy is created to appeal slaves that can be npc used.

 

[Male Idiot]

Foucalt. French and a pedo and a libtard.

 

[Camel joe]

marquis de sade

 

[ITK]

No fren, my cat is called Soren. I meant I am glad nobody had mentioned Aurelius or Kierkegaard as philosophers they don't like, they are the ones who deserve the tags.

Aurelius was not a philosopher and Kierkegaard objectively butchers Christianity.

 

[Ser Prize]

Rousseau

 

[GamesGoodMeBad]

Ayn Rand

 

[crowabunga]

The author of this article

 

[The Great Mountain Juju]

Plato and Kant for their abject rejection of what is right in front of their eyes in favor of this fantasy realm where "the perfect chair" exists.

This post was made by Aristotle gang.

 

[Jew Hunter]

Peter Singer.

Actively defends having sex with animals. Grade-A animal control tier material.

 

[Yezidi Fan Club]

Nicolas Gomez-Davila. Reactionary Traditionalist aphorist.

Some favorites:

History is written above a certain level; but history occurs below this level in what is imbecile, insane, stupid.

To begin to learn the mystery of the wind we must first forget the mystery of the swirling leaves

The curse of liberalism; to correctly diagnose the disease but to aggravate it with its therapeutics

Edit oh this was philosophers we don't like? Durrhurrdurr

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Friedrich Nietzsche
the man was a complete and utter emotional and physical wreck most of his life spent 22 years in a mental institution and literally never said anything negative about Jews yet somehow all of his acolytes in the modern age all hate the Jews he also hated the Germans which at least is 1 positive side others philosophy
also God is dead is something he never actually said he said something somewhat along those lines but it's more the philosophical concept of God rather than the actual God being dead for say.


I can't take a man seriously who screams about masters and slaves who literally had to have a sister take care of his nearly comatose *** for the last part of his life.
Joan Antonio premedia Rivera he was basically the equivalent of Eric striker an annoying communist who lashed himself onto the Spanish right during the 1930s the best thing he ever did for the right was take a bullet in police custody

John Ross if you're wondering why everyone hates their own country and it's just saying your country is nothing special you can blame this ******** 1970s philosopher not to be confused with the painter

Curtis yarvin AKA moldy bread
the term neo reactionary is an oxymoron reactionaries by ovary nature do not change our beliefs also his entire dark elf

juliani gentile the doctrine of fascism is a complete mess of a book and it is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever had the displeasure of reading the fact that people are actually afraid of the ideology of fascism baffles me

 

[Rome vs Judea]

Friedrich Nietzsche
the man was a complete and utter emotional and physical wreck most of his life spent 22 years in a mental institution and literally never said anything negative about Jews yet somehow all of his acolytes in the modern age all hate the Jews he also hated the Germans which at least is 1 positive side others philosophy
also God is dead is something he never actually said he said something somewhat along those lines but it's more the philosophical concept of God rather than the actual God being dead for say.

I ignored Nietzsche for a long time because of all the ad hominems like these. I regret it.

I think Nietzsche was spot on. Western philosophy has been infected with an Anti-Life slave morality for millennia. We've become so decayed from it that we are literally trying to kill ourselves. Talk to any leftist today and they will tell you with a straight face why inviting 1 million Haitians into your neighborhood is a good thing. Talk to cuckservatives and they don't seem to mind either, as long as it's done legally and increases the GDP. Same goes for abortion, homosexuality, puberty blocking children, etc. etc., it's all Anti-Life. People on the right still have some of their survival instincts intact, so you will see them be in opposition sometimes, but they can't articulate any counter arguments outside of religious or financial talking points. Instead of just saying "These Haitians are going to kill us all and eat our children." they have to say "We can't afford this many refugees, housing prices are already too high!"

Trying to justify your own survival through rational arguments within the social construct of 'Good' and 'Evil' is, in fact, Anti-Life behavior.

Will to Power is honestly the only thing that matters. It's how jews view the world and it seems to produce great results. They don't waste any time thinking if it's 'Good' or 'Evil' to treat non-jews a certain way, they just do whatever it takes to forward their interests. They are very open and honest about it too; "Oy vey, we jews are just trying to survive! We had to kill all their children!" They want to survive and that's all the reasoning they need to massacre anyone they want to. Very simple, and actually Pro-Life, as hypocritical as it sounds.

That is Will to Power. Survive or die.

Pitying the weak and catering to them will only lead to more suffering, it will spread to EVERYONE. This is what we see in the liberal western death cult. Spreading the suffering of the weak onto the entire world. Every single human being suffers when the weak are given power and influence. It's a mathematical certainty.

"Power does not corrupt the Weak,
the Weak corrupt Power."

Meanwhile, our diseased Western minds sit back and pretend we can use rational arguments to prove Good and Evil are objective laws of reality, and all actions should be weighed against these supposed laws of the universe. In this world though, you either live or you die, that's it. It's not a moral equation between 'Good' and 'Evil', it just is. It's the eternal struggle of all lifeforms on this planet, and humans are no exception.

My only white-pill in life is that I believe Nietzsche is right about the coming super-man. A new kind of man, free from the shackles of these slave morals, and He will end the suffering that Anti-Life morality has cursed this world with.

There's a lot more to the Nietzsche-verse and I'm no scholar, but it all clicks for me.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Niche's entire philosophy just boils down to I am a sociopath and don't understand complicated political structures machiavelli and power politics is a much better explanation how the world works
and might makes right by ragnar redbeard which is a continuation of Max sterner's work but he takes it to its logical conclusion that the only thing that matters and that everything boils down to if you have the ability to overpower someone you are right

the stoics were much better philosophers too much pleasure is vain and self-discipline is important as well as the Christian ascetics who practice a form of Christian meditation in order to find more of a oneness with God that requires much more discipline than going to the gym for an hour each day

Friedrich Nietzsche would be on the lists of people's books that should on ironically be purged from the western Canon of how useless they are the same thing with the machiavellians instead of reading that book just read the prints like a normal person

also the absolutist will ultimately write about everything when it came to political organization Friedrich Nietzsche is just a victim of his modernist post industrial revolution society which he cannot come to terms with

I disagree with playdough but at least he could lift bolder on like niche whose entire philosophy boils down to you should be the master of everything even though he was complete and utter wreck of a human being it's like movie Bob's trying to say he is the ultimate man

 

[Devout Muslim]

I know he’s NOT a philosopher but Jordan Peterson really bugs me. Nigger needs to shut up about philosophy.

I just don’t know why [Rand’s] fans are so crazy, aside from Marxists it’s hard to find such a group of retards like them.

Objectivists are definitely the retarded cousins of the Austrian school fanboys lol. I didn’t mind Atlas Shrugged but I found all the deus ex machinas undercut it a little - if her philosophy is so plausible then why, even in her fantasy world, does she need all this magic technology to illustrate it? I also remember having the distinct impression that her philosophy was contrived and not as “objective” as it claimed to be but it’s been 6 years since I’ve seriously engaged with it.

My only white-pill in life is that I believe Nietzsche is right about the coming super-man. A new kind of man, free from the shackles of these slave morals, and He will end the suffering that Anti-Life morality has cursed this world with.

Not to get religious but it sounds like you’re literally describing the anti-Christ.

 

[Vecr]

I also remember having the distinct impression that her philosophy was contrived and not as “objective” as it claimed to be but it’s been 6 years since I’ve seriously engaged with it.

It's not. There's various goals/acts that are generally postulated to be useful, but it's probably possible to undermine their effect, so I would not call them objective. It's pretty basic stuff though, like not killing yourself and not letting yourself be killed, and gathering resources so you can protect yourself, as well as other goals you may have, against nature/other people in the future.

 

[Devout Muslim]

It's pretty basic stuff though, like not killing yourself and not letting yourself be killed, and gathering resources so you can protect yourself, as well as other goals you may have, against nature/other people in the future.

Yeah skimming some webpages that’s pretty much where she lost me. I never quite got how she arrived at the virtues of her system.

I can see how work is useful: I can’t see how it’s good.
I can see how happiness is preferable: I can’t see how it’s good.
I can see how abstaining from charitable assistance is acceptable: I can’t see how it’s good.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Objectivists are definitely the retarded cousins of the Austrian school fanboys lol. I didn’t mind Atlas Shrugged but I found all the deus ex machinas undercut it a little - if her philosophy is so plausible then why, even in her fantasy world, does she need all this magic technology to illustrate it? I also remember having the distinct impression that her philosophy was contrived and not as “objective” as it claimed to be but it’s been 6 years since I’ve seriously engaged with it.

Enlightened Self-interest, by necessity, needs to be subjective, not objective. She was probably engaging in some linguistic trickery of her own by using that term, much like Scientologists use the word Science when what they do is anything but. A truly objective, as in requiring a third person, philosophy is something like categorical imperatives, but, well, we know the problems of that claim.