WHO's Pandemic Treaty Thread. Set to be signed in May 2024. - Countries get a vote on whether or not to give away their sovereignty to the WHO and you don't get to vote.

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The argument going on is whether or not the treaty will lead to further lockdowns as well as other overbearing nannystate bullshit. So if you supported lockdowns before, it could point to you being biased in favor of the WHO having more power over policy or too stupid to understand that the WHO is an "expert" organization used to legitimize overbearing nannystate bullshit.


They're eggcellent for breakfast, but I rarely bother.
The WHO will not have the power to order a lockdown in the treaty. I supported the knee jerk reaction to lockdowns in case it was a lethal virus with the ability to upend social
Order. Once that was obviously not the case I did not.
 
I supported the knee jerk reaction to lockdowns in case it was a lethal virus with the ability to upend social
Order.
So you gently caress the boot, but don't fellate it. Gotcha.

The WHO will not have the power to order a lockdown in the treaty.
The governments signing this treaty will do what the WHO says unless their population yells loud enough to fuck off. The WHO is being set up as the go to expert to justify authoritarian activity. This isn't about the WHO have the power to do buttfuck anything, but about the government being able to say "well the experts say forcing everyone to wear ankle monitors will reduce transmission of Disease X and you don't trust the science you anti-semitic bigot!"

Yell about it now so you won't have to yell about it while locked in your home later.
 
So you gently caress the boot, but don't fellate it. Gotcha.


The governments signing this treaty will do what the WHO says unless their population yells loud enough to fuck off. The WHO is being set up as the go to expert to justify authoritarian activity. This isn't about the WHO have the power to do buttfuck anything, but about the government being able to say "well the experts say forcing everyone to wear ankle monitors will reduce transmission of Disease X and you don't trust the science you anti-semitic bigot!"

Yell about it now so you won't have to yell about it while locked in your home later.
I think your fears are unfounded. The WHO isn’t writing the treaty - the members are.
 
You doomers need to calm the fuck down. The WHO can write up treaties all they want, the US military is the only group capable of enforcing it. They have bigger problems to worry about than niggercattle. TPTB were incapable of forcing this when they had the element of surprise, it's not going to amount to anything now.
I remember being called a doomer for pointing out that the "two weeks to stop the spread" shit was going to be semi-permanent.

I have disregarded immediately the opinions of anyone more concerned with the temperature of a discussion than they are with the discussion itself, since.
Oh no. They have a clause to deal with false information. Oh no; they will lock us all
Up! The end is here folks.

Why the WHO can go to my house and stick a needle in arm and tie me up and beat me until I confess!

It’s all over folks.
Your stupidity and transparent attempts at duplicity are more offensive than most actual crimes.
 
ManStan is either trolling to stoke rage or is genuinely that stupid. I however have no wish to be a WHO slave and do NOT consent to their meddling.
I admire the fact that you believe you and all other KFers are somehow above intellectually all the persons globally from over 190 countries considering the treaty; and that any KFer that supports the treaty is a paid goon. This treaty isn't about covid, it is about diseases that will be present globally that are a much larger threat than what Covid was.

You are smarter than the scientists, you know more about disease and health than any medical professional at WHO or for that matter any government official in over 100 countries about how diseases should be dealt with.

Your opinion on how a government deals with an international crisis really, isn't your forte and you have no skills in the area. You haven't read a single book about what is out there and what is possible and you seem blind by the fact that historically the human race has been subject to horrific pandemics that have destroyed social order many times, and that in the modern age a disease can travel with fantastic speed.

Covid merely showed that we globally, were unprepared and had too varied responses and policies on how to confront a threat, and covid was mild compared to what is possible. There is absolutely no doubt that we will be confronted by a vicious virus that has the capacity to destroy social order on a global scale and really, the government doesn't give a fuck if you want to make this silly argument about wearing a face mask.

Your government will throw out your constitutional rights in a heart beat and firebomb an entire city if it has to should some viruses raise their ugly head and need to be eradicated; and damn your rights to life and liberty. You've no idea what is out there currently in laboratories in a dozen countries capable of utterly destroying the global order and wiping out billions.

When the right virus comes along, you'll be the first one in line to get a vaccine - and pray to fucking god they have one - when it hits. It won't be a virus that stops you going to work for 2 weeks, it will be one that will reduce your organs to mush and you'll bleed out because you've got no veins left. Don't confuse the muddled response of Covid with what has been in the human history of virus pandemics and what is easily possible. Fuck your rights.

To live beyond 20 years of age a 500 hundred years ago you had the immune system of a fucking Titan, and still viruses sprung up that wiped out huge swaths of the population, you and I today stand no fucking chance should they rise up again with genetic changes.

Your brief existence through a miracle period of human history without a vicious virus is a miracle not caused by your superior genetics, it has been luck, and you are soft. Humanities luck will run out; and that is what the treaty is actually about, not your stupid constitutional rights which mean squat in a real crisis. It would shock you the contingency plans in place in the event of a real virus getting loose and what an government is willing to do to prevent it's spread.
 
I admire the fact that you believe you and all other KFers are somehow above intellectually [the Bush Administration considering the Patriot Act]: and that any KFer that supports [the Patriot Act] is a paid goon. [The Patriot Act] isn't about [stripping Americans' right to privacy and creating a domestic surveillance state], it is about [counter-terrorism] that will be present globally that are a much larger threat than what [September 11, 2001] was.
Boy sure does sound familiar. Sometimes patterns are too easy to notice and that's what fellow farmers are pointing out.
 
(ignoring the retard to keep the thread on topic)
My only hope for this going nowhere is that it's headed by the WHO and UN, two monumental failures of organizations that I don't think have enough firepower behind them to truly enforce or do anything like what they're proposing here.

I'm keeping my guard up regardless, and that announcement video (especially that bit trying to fearmonger about a "next" pandemic, fuck that commie cuntwaffle) is quite unnerving, but I am firmly on the side of Nothing Ever Happens for now.


Even if only to cope.
 
When the right virus comes along, you'll be the first one in line to get a vaccine - and pray to fucking god they have one - when it hits. It won't be a virus that stops you going to work for 2 weeks, it will be one that will reduce your organs to mush and you'll bleed out because you've got no veins left. Don't confuse the muddled response of Covid with what has been in the human history of virus pandemics and what is easily possible. Fuck your rights.
You sound like a selfish COVID cult member don't you? We're not that stupid because we already remembered the revelation of the vaccines. People were blackmailed into taking the vaccine shown in the false COVID so called pandemic and their rights were taken away if they don't take it. With some being unable to take planes without the shot. Sounds like a Social Credit System to me. This kind of Lunacy was the reason I left Canada for a couple months to a country that doesn't have these fucking mandates. If these mandates were still around, I would've been writing this at a Wifi Hotspot in Puerto Vallarta.
 
I admire the fact that you believe- *incoherent babbling*
That is a lot of words to call yourself a bootlicking faggot. Less is more dipshit.

My only hope for this going nowhere is that it's headed by the WHO and UN, two monumental failures of organizations that I don't think have enough firepower behind them to truly enforce or do anything like what they're proposing here.
The WHO will never be the ones enforcing this, the worry is that you'll have government leaders agreeing with the WHO enforcing it themselves which is exactly what happened during Covid. The point of pushing this treaty is soft influence, entrenching the WHO with enough public legitimacy that world leaders will point to them to excuse their tyrannical actions.
 
To live beyond 20 years of age a 500 hundred years ago you had the immune system of a fucking Titan,
Patently false.
that is what the treaty is actually about, not your stupid constitutional rights
This sentence alone is all that anyone ever needed to read from you to know what kind of human-shaped ape you are.

Unironically kill yourself.
 
Covid merely showed that we globally, were unprepared and had too varied responses and policies on how to confront a threat,
Covid showed that ‘public health’ can now be abused as a crisis to usher in draconian extra powers for governments. 9/11 ushered in the patriot act - the event created a societal shock that allowed governments to step in and outlaws through that would have been much more resisted otherwise and they’ve NEVER been repealed.
Countries SHOULD have different policies, tailored to their own country. What works in a small, homogenous country like Iceland won’t work in a sprawling favela. What works in a cold country won’t work in a tropical one. You tailor your policies to conditions in the ground. Rich or poor countries don’t react the same, but even dirt poor countries have stopped Ebola outbreaks with simple techniques suited to their conditions.
You cannot legislate disease. Anders Tegnell, the Swedish dude who directed the Swedish response, said at the start that it’s a new respiratory disease and not much we do will affect how it goes through. That was very realistic. He was right.
The WHO should never hold any real authority. They are unelected. They should exist only as a loose set of researchers working internationally to share information and resources. They should never be setting policy, or drawing up binding treaties. Tedros isn’t even a medical doctor, but he was a member of an actual terrorist organisation in Ethiopia, and china pushed hard for him to become head of the WHO. The man is at best a stooge.
 
WHO doesn't make decisions, but their masters Rothschilds and Rockefellers with a bunch of other ultrarich pedojews do. And countries will most likely obey (as most governments are corrupt or ran directly by Zionists). You saw what happened during covid. I really sense something nasty waiting for us in the future and I really hope I'm wrong.
 
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