Who's responsible for the state of modern CWC? - A discussion.

[Subconcious Offense]

I wonder if he has any other mental issues, like mild narcissism, or if Borb just really fucked up raising their kid and its too late to fix shit now unless he's taken to a home or something. Because like you said, most autistic people aren't...dumb, or unwilling to change, just a little oblivious. I know he went to a school required mental health examination, but I have my doubts on how thorough that was...it'd be interesting to see what one would say after a couple months to a year of counseling. I imagine it would be a fascinating read.

Too bad Chris will never agree to that. And also, you know, HIPPA laws and such.

It was thorough, they just refused to have him be treated and moved away instead.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I wonder if he has any other mental issues, like mild narcissism, or if Borb just really fucked up raising their kid and its too late to fix shit now unless he's taken to a home or something. Because like you said, most autistic people aren't...dumb, or unwilling to change, just a little oblivious. I know he went to a school required mental health examination, but I have my doubts on how thorough that was...it'd be interesting to see what one would say after a couple months to a year of counseling. I imagine it would be a fascinating read.

Too bad Chris will never agree to that. And also, you know, HIPPA laws and such.

It's actually been discussed several times to death, but Chris also seems to have issues that involve mental retardation and possible personality disorders, which he learned from Barb as maladaptive coping skills.
People with stuff like Aspergers are in no way dumb, but people like Chris that are on the lower end of the spectrum tend to have more intense companion disorders like retardation, dyslexia, dyscalculia, dyspraxia, impulse control. Chris has no hidden form of genius that is waiting to be unleashed by a thoughtful, kind galpal, who he can later grope like Megan.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

How dare you, he is high functioning!

 

[Lurkette]

It was thorough, they just refused to have him be treated and moved away instead.

Looking at the CWCki, his eval was by a psychiatrist, not a school counselor like I thought it had been, so yeah it was obviously thorough, my bad. Do we know how long he went?

It's actually been discussed several times to death, but Chris also seems to have issues that involve mental exceptionalism and possible personality disorders, which he learned from Barb as maladaptive coping skills.
People with stuff like Aspergers are in no way dumb, but people like Chris that are on the lower end of the spectrum tend to have more intense companion disorders like exceptionalism, dyslexia, dyscalculia, dyspraxia, impulse control. Chris has no hidden form of genius that is waiting to be unleashed by a thoughtful, kind galpal, who he can later grope like Megan.

I know its been discussed but the only real way to confirm any other diagnosis (besides the obvious ones like dyscalculia) is for a professional to see him for at least six months, and though I can't remember how long he went to the school's recommended psychiatrist, it, seems to be just an intake sort of thing.

Like, there's a difference between a maladaptive coping disorder that can be treated and an actual personality disorder, which is impossible to cure but can be...worked on, for lack of a better term, if the person is willing. It'd just be interesting to me to learn about the nuances of his personality from a psychological standpoint, especially since its not entirely clear (to me anyway) how much he can understand and handle. Is ALWAYS an excuse or is part of it that he genuinely gets overloaded and can't deal? Does he genuinely believe that the biaural beats will work, or is he just hopeful?

Idk, not looking for excuses for him, just reasons. But I guess its a moot point either way.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Like, there's a difference between a maladaptive coping disorder that can be treated and an actual personality disorder, which is impossible to cure but can be...worked on, for lack of a better term, if the person is willing. It'd just be interesting to me to learn about the nuances of his personality from a psychological standpoint, especially since its not entirely clear (to me anyway) how much he can understand and handle.

I don't think Chris has much more nuance to his personality, he has literally shared most of his life with the internet, and it has never been that varied. Chris is the opposite of nuanced

• It's just been Entitled Manbaby
• Wash, Rinse, and Repeat with Tomgirl
• Add some Leggo and Transformers for good measure

You can see it in his latest interview with that ween, Chris is still the same person that the internet discovered in 2007, just a lot more damaged and psychologically mutated because he can't control himself and his reaction to others.

ALWAYS an excuse or is part of it that he genuinely gets overloaded and can't deal? Does he genuinely believe that the biaural beats will work, or is he just hopeful?

Other people will tell you that Chris is merely optimistic, I think he might be somewhat delusional because he wants these things to work.
Chris has always been the type to believe in magical beans and autistic flying dragons, probably just because they're so vague and you have to put forth little to no effort.
Real Hormones, China, Breast Implants, and Lady face can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for someone Chris' age.
China and hormones may be covered by his welfare insurance, but that involves multiple doctor's visits and copays that would leave Chris without valuable Leggo and Videa. Chris does not actually want to be transgender, he wants to transition and transform into a "real lady" (with a vagina, uterus, and milk moobs), which is impossible, especially after seeing him not so cleverly let out a fart when being interviewed. Both solutions to Chris' gender displacement will never give him what he wants, just because nothing will ever make him a woman or feminine.

 

[Lurkette]

I don't think Chris has much more nuance to his personality, he has literally shared most of his life with the internet, and it has never been that varied. Chris is the opposite of nuanced

• It's just been Entitled Manbaby
• Wash, Rinse, and Repeat with Tomgirl
• Add some Leggo and Transformers for good measure

You can see it in his latest interview with that ween, Chris is still the same person that the internet discovered in 2007, just a lot more damaged and psychologically mutated because he can't control himself and his reaction to others.


Other people will tell you that Chris is merely optimistic, I think he might be somewhat delusional because he wants these things to work.
Chris has always been the type to believe in magical beans and autistic flying dragons, probably just because they're so vague and you have to put forth little to no effort.
Real Hormones, China, Breast Implants, and Lady face can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for someone Chris' age.
China and hormones may be covered by his welfare insurance, but that involves multiple doctor's visits and copays that would leave Chris without valuable Leggo and Videa. Chris does not actually want to be transgender, he wants to transition and transform into a "real lady" (with a vagina, uterus, and milk moobs), which is impossible, especially after seeing him not so cleverly let out a fart when being interviewed. Both solutions to Chris' gender displacement will never give him what he wants, just because nothing will ever make him a woman or feminine.

lol I meant "nuanced" as in "how the fuck does this man's brain work and why" because i'm autistic and like to use fancy words that don't always mean exactly what i try to make them mean and also i just really want a lengthy case study done on chris.

But yeah, as has been stated before, Chris doesn't seem to have actual gender dysphoria, just the very superficial thinking of essentially "Women don't want to fuck me because people say I'm gay and unmanly, but I hate dicks so...I must be a lesbian."

 

[crownthefempire]

Bob and Barb.

They could have taught him to get a job, be good with money, the concept of accountability, so he could live a reasonable but not great life, but the moment Barb dies Chris will be absolutely lost. Within a year he'll either be in a home or a prison, or in a financial black hole.

Hell, Bob was in decent shape most of his life, he could have made sure Chris got exercise too, and one of them could have made sure he didn't already look exactly like the stereotypical image of a child molester by the time he was 18. Plus there's the fact they just blamed their shitty babysitter for Chris's autism and gave the fuck up on him instead of getting him therapy.

Hell, I know a lot of autistic people. I just went to the wedding of one last week. With proper treatment, and the same life lessons as a normie, they can be productive human beings.

Although the one thing I wonder about is gender issues. I don't know if Chris would be trying that shit if he had a chance to be well adjusted, or if it's come about because he hates himself. If he did turn out to have actual gender issues, then he's still an LGBT person in Shitsville, Virgina with religious parents, so he's boned either way.

 

[Broseph]

He's just unscripted as Marvin said, and he is trying to get everyone to buy his cheap junk and send donations. Just like others have stated, Chris' only real motivations in life are free money and sweethearts.

FTFY

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Probably Chris's libedo, if it wasn't for his love quest he might still be living a naive, simple but mostly happy manchild life.

 

[crownthefempire]

Probably Chris's libido, if it wasn't for his love quest he might still be living a naive, simple but mostly happy manchild life.

If he was actually socially acceptable enough to get laid (better dressed/groomed, more charming personality, etc), then the only part off the top of my head that would have happened is him eventually being banned from places like The Game Place for being racist or homophobe or something (His parents are old white people in Virginia, no alternate universe is fixing those qualities in Chris)

 

[Kumquat]

I wonder if he has any other mental issues, like mild narcissism, or if Borb just really fucked up raising their kid and its too late to fix shit now unless he's taken to a home or something. Because like you said, most autistic people aren't...dumb, or unwilling to change, just a little oblivious. I know he went to a school required mental health examination, but I have my doubts on how thorough that was...it'd be interesting to see what one would say after a couple months to a year of counseling. I imagine it would be a fascinating read.

Too bad Chris will never agree to that. And also, you know, HIPPA laws and such.

Chris is a perfect example of what happens when kids with autism aren't given any kind of therapy or counseling growing up. It's not that autistic people are dumb as you said, but then again, most autistic people get some kind of help or therapy growing up that helps them to cope with their disability.

I have a friend who is more autistic than Chris is, and yet even he leads a better life because he regularly sees a therapist (which he calls his youth coach) and said coach teaches him how to handle his autism. He'll be talking to me online, typing up a storm about his obsessions (in his case, German rap music) and then like halfway through he'll suddenly stop and go "sorry, am I being annoying?" He has the same autistic qualities as Chris but has had the help and support to recognize those qualities and been given the tools to overcome them.

Chris hasn't had any of that. He had parents from an older generation that simply were not equipped to handle a child with a mental disability. Add that to the fact that they really weren't very good parents to begin with (look at Cole Smithey) and the fact that they tried to "mainstream" Chris, and you get the autistic wonder-child that we see today. I don't think Chris has any other mental disorders; it's simply his autism which - even though it's high-functioning - has not been treated or counseled in any way, shape or form. Chris is true, bona fide :autism:autism in it's purest state.

 

[Smurfchu]

I still can't tell what you're trying to get out of this.

Lolcow status?

 

[FightenGnome]

I agree that Chris himself and his parents are to blame, but I also voted the trolls as well.

Not all the trolls mind you, but I think if he hadn't gotten his ED page, he may still have had some sort of friendship with Megan. I'd say the major damage was done from Megan to around the end of the Bluespike. Chris lived a happy life when he was insulated from the wider world. He had his TRUE AND HONEST Sonichu Medallion, trusted people, his fond high school memories, his weekly game place, his play station info, and his Megan obsession.

Subsequent trolling just made him more paranoid and defensive but had the trolling stopped after Bluespike, he still would have ended up doing crazy things like wearing a bra that says "WANT WOMAN!"

 

[Lurkette]

I agree that Chris himself and his parents are to blame, but I also voted the trolls as well.

Not all the trolls mind you, but I think if he hadn't gotten his ED page, he may still have had some sort of friendship with Megan. I'd say the major damage was done from Megan to around the end of the Bluespike. Chris lived a happy life when he was insulated from the wider world. He had his TRUE AND HONEST Sonichu Medallion, trusted people, his fond high school memories, his weekly game place, his play station info, and his Megan obsession.

Subsequent trolling just made him more paranoid and defensive but had it not happened, he still would have ended up doing crazy things like wearing a bra that says "WANT WOMAN!"

I really hate the Julie Saga tbh
All it was was a tryhard 12 year old taking advantage of an autistic man who couldn't understand what was happening to him
Ugh
Pure Chris-chan is entertaining enough without anyone egging him on, at least not maliciously

Chris is a perfect example of what happens when kids with autism aren't given any kind of therapy or counseling growing up. It's not that autistic people are dumb as you said, but then again, most autistic people get some kind of help or therapy growing up that helps them to cope with their disability.

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Chris is true, bona fide :autism:autism in it's purest state.

ah, tru dat. I don't know much about autism tbh beyond what Almighty Chris has taught me so I wouldn't know what symptoms might overlap with other illnesses.

 

[Jerkologist]

Did Chris just wake up one day in 2011 and decide to be a Tomgirl? I know it's been a gradual transformation since then, but I remember thinking the whole thing kind of came out of left field. If it really was sort of a sudden thing, does anybody think that it's possible that Chris will eventually decide to go back to the wayhe was? Seems unlikely, and this might just be because I miss Classic Chris, but does anybody think there's a chance that this phase will simply run its course?

 

[FightenGnome]

Did Chris just wake up one day in 2011 and decide to be a Tomgirl? I know it's been a gradual transformation since then, but I remember thinking the whole thing kind of came out of left field. If it really was sort of a sudden thing, does anybody think that it's possible that Chris will eventually decide to go back to the wayhe was? Seems unlikely, and this might just be because I miss Classic Chris, but does anybody think there's a chance that this phase will simply run its course?

I think he will remain this way until Barb passes away at the very least. At the heart of it all, Chris will need to find help and/or social attention some way and with Barb gone, he will have to look into the big wide world of trolls.

I don't think the Tomgirl saga is permanent (unless it does kill him) but it's going to take a culmination of events to get him out of it just like it did getting him into it. I don't think Chris would have come out as transexual had the opportunity not presented itself by the constant promotion of it by the media.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

[...] does anybody think there's a chance that this phase will simply run its course?

Chris hates masculine, including his own body. I don't think the tomgirl stuff is going away anytime soon.

 

[Marvin]

If it really was sort of a sudden thing, does anybody think that it's possible that Chris will eventually decide to go back to the wayhe was? Seems unlikely, and this might just be because I miss Classic Chris, but does anybody think there's a chance that this phase will simply run its course?

Chris has deep seated gender issues. There's no reason to believe Chris will resolve them in a way that leads him to go back to identifying as a man.

In fact, it seems very likely that identifying as a woman is Chris' way of resolving his gender issues. Things like dressing as a woman (as far as he can tell), changing his name and legal gender on his license and planning for his deducking are very comforting to him.

 

[Jerkologist]

Chris has deep seated gender issues. There's no reason to believe Chris will resolve them in a way that leads him to go back to identifying as a man.

In fact, it seems very likely that identifying as a woman is Chris' way of resolving his gender issues. Things like dressing as a woman (as far as he can tell), changing his name and legal gender on his license and planning for his deducking are very comforting to him.

Imagine having a life so miserable that your only source of solace and comfortable is the prospect of having your dick mutilated...

 

[Chuggernaut]

Both solutions to Chris' gender displacement will never give him what he wants, just because nothing will ever make him a woman or feminine.

Even if he could, it wouldn't give him what he wants, which is the life of an attractive woman from a TV show- don't need to get a job, people approaching you for relationships, someone else takes care of your problems, strangers shower you with praise...