Whose Sins Did Jesus Die For?

All of humanity. Just because you want to think a certain way doesn't make it true or not. If that were the case, troons would be heckin valid instead of chemically castrated weirdos that hate themselves on a metaphysical (and physical ) level. Jesus died for you whether you like it or not. You can not accept it, doesn't change that fact

Skitarii said:
He died as man so that man could ascend to heaven like God. Also to prove that death held no dominion over creation, since, ya know, he defied death by coming back from the dead and restoring life to the tombs of all righteous who had died before him
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I honestly expected a shitposty answer from you.
 
Tomboy Respecter said:
All of humanity. Just because you want to think a certain way doesn't make it true or not. If that were the case, troons would be heckin valid instead of chemically castrated weirdos that hate themselves on a metaphysical (and physical ) level.


I honestly expected a shitposty answer from you.
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I shitpost when it comes to man, not when it comes to God
 
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Getting tard comed said:
It isn't paradoxical at all.

Jesus died for humanity's sin and to free human beings, if the accepted it, from Satan's jurisdiction and dominion over the Earth. Even if no human being sinned(impossible except for Jesus) there would still be the problem of living under Satan's rule. Jesus's death deals/dealt with that.

Everybody's AnOnimous. Including Patti, but, like with everything else involving yhe Christian God, it's up to each individual to accept what he's given.
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Why do I need to be free of Satan though? What did he ever do wrong? He gave knowledge to Eve.

Why should I care what happens to my soul (which is non-quantifiable) when I die? I’ll be dead so I won’t be able to care.

How can God guarantee I’ll suffer forever? Even if I believed in God I would be anti-god.

To answer the OP question, he certainly didn’t die for mine. If someone was born today and claimed all the stuff Jesus claimed you would label him a lunatic, and millennia old religious books are not reliable sources.
 
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Can you even say Jesus died? If my heart stops and the doctor brings me back I don't get a holiday, they don't record it as a "rebirth". Oh, so just because Jesus got God (his dad may I remind you, fucking nepotism) to man the spiritual defibrillator his "rebirth" is a "miracle" and gets everyone to worship at his feet, but all I get is a fucking hospital bill? It's a fucking rigged game man.
 
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InwardsStink said:
Why do I need to be free of Satan though? What did he ever do wrong? He gave knowledge to Eve.

Why should I care what happens to my soul (which is non-quantifiable) when I die? I’ll be dead so I won’t be able to care.

How can God guarantee I’ll suffer forever? Even if I believed in God I would be anti-god.

To answer the OP question, he certainly didn’t die for mine. If someone was born today and claimed all the stuff Jesus claimed you would label him a lunatic, and millennia old religious books are not reliable sources.
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Why do you need to be free from an immortal(as far as your concerned) sadist, psychopathic, genocidal murderer who hates you specifically?

You don't. Jesus died so you had the option to be. The freedom isn't just in death. The freedom applies in life as well.

Sentiments like this strike me as naive to the problem of evil. If you don't acknowledge evil as a manifestly real force independent of humanity it's easy to hold a position that removes the supernatural.

Old books aren't reliable sources? Got it. Good luck fren.
 
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Getting tard comed said:
Why do you need to be free from an immortal(as far as your concerned) sadist, psychopathic, genocidal murderer who hates you specifically?

You don't. Jesus died so you had the option to be. The freedom isn't just in death. The freedom applies in life as well.

Sentiments like this strike me as naive to the problem of evil. If you don't acknowledge evil as a manifestly real force independent of humanity it's easy to hold a position that removes the supernatural.

Old books aren't reliable sources? Got it. Good luck fren.
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Going to church isn’t going to free me of anything but 10% of my income. The fact of the matter is that if god and satan exist they make themselves completely irrelevant in our daily lives. If god exists he doesn’t want me to worship him, otherwise he would use his omnipotence to force me to do so.

I don’t get what there isn’t to understand about morality being an entirely human construct. Humans have created and discussed abstract concepts since we gained the power of language. Societal pressures create morality, if you do ill deeds towards other people you will be forcibly removed from society. Killing people is bad, stealing stuff is bad, I know this because they would be bad things if they happened to me - not because God gave me morality.

Yes old books aren’t reliable sources. Contemporary eyewitness testimony is unreliable and religion is asking you to accept eyewitness accounts from 2000 years ago as gospel.
 
Before creation God the father predestined before he created the universe who will come to Christ and be saved and who wont and will be damned.
 

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LillWeeb said:
Before creation God the father predestined before he created the universe who will come to Christ and be saved and who wont and will be damned.
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Pre-determination is the worst type of religious doctrine IMO. Seems to me like we are automata if I look at it from that perspective, and to me that defeats the entire purpose of thinking.
Un Platano said:
Shit like this is why I hate the demiurge.
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I legitimately think about deicide a lot. I’m an agnostic that presents as an atheist and I had a point in my life where I wanted to feel god but I never did. I guess if you “feel” god like some people say then it’s no longer a belief it is a matter of fact.

The reason I think about deicide is because if god exists and reveals himself to the world then he abandoned me in my time of need when I asked everyone around me how to feel god. I would make it my life’s purpose to commit deicide if that happened.

I know it’s all kind of ridiculous and egotistical and I’m blogging but your comment made me want to say it. It’s a stupid thought.

I don’t know if it’s clear in how I post but I don’t hate religion overall, nor do I dismiss it completely on claims of lack of evidence, but I don’t feel god. I cannot believe in what I do not feel and sometimes I’m going to point at what seems like a completely ridiculous claim and call it that.
 
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InwardsStink said:
Pre-determination is the worst type of religious doctrine IMO. Seems to me like we are automata if I look at it from that perspective, and to me that defeats the entire purpose of thinking.
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The way I see it is there is a predetermined path set for me that I can freely choose to follow or not. God has His plan for me, but the evils on Earth exist to draw you away from that. It's not so much being an automated being where every moment is predestined, moreso that you have to maintain your righteous path to God. If I'm wrong about this then I've missed the point of it all.
InwardsStink said:
I legitimately think about deicide a lot. I’m an agnostic that presents as an atheist and I had a point in my life where I wanted to feel god but I never did. I guess if you “feel” god like some people say then it’s no longer a belief it is a matter of fact.
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I'm there with you, pal. I've said before there are things I could explain as "signs from God" that could equally be explained by coincidence and frequency bias. Religion requires a sort of suspension of disbelief. You have to accept that certain aspects are dogma and must be contrived as if they are as true as the air you breathe. This is the definition of faith bringing you closer to God.
InwardsStink said:
The reason I think about deicide is because if god exists and reveals himself to the world then he abandoned me in my time of need when I asked everyone around me how to feel god. I would make it my life’s purpose to commit deicide if that happened.
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Oh, I didn't realize you were talking about literally killing God. I thought you meant the death of God as a concept for the absence of religion and spirituality in modern society. Explaining how to feel God is like asking you how to feel love. It's nuanced and different for everyone, and you'd find that to be true I think if you were to ask individuals how they experience God in their lives.
InwardsStink said:
I know it’s all kind of ridiculous and egotistical and I’m blogging but your comment made me want to say it. It’s a stupid thought.
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Maybe, maybe not. I've met a fair share of people who would square off with God and Jesus if given the chance.
InwardsStink said:
I don’t know if it’s clear in how I post but I don’t hate religion overall, nor do I dismiss it completely on claims of lack of evidence, but I don’t feel god. I cannot believe in what I do not feel and sometimes I’m going to point at what seems like a completely ridiculous claim and call it that.
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It's a touchy subject and a lot of users instantly start shitting the bed when someone brings up religion as a topic. Don't worry about people being faggots.
 
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According to some Priest in the 3rd Century AD it was for everyone who was born because of semen. Because all semen is from Adam. So anybody born from parthenogenesis is free of the curse of Adam.

Which means men getting pregnant by females via artificial wombs and cells would cause a baby free of the curse by Adam.

Or Lesbians getting prego via maniputing ovaries.
 
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Skitarii said:
I shitpost when it comes to man, not when it comes to God
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How does your life glorify him, especially your embrace of Warhammer 40k which contains multiple false doctrines?

CAPTAIN MATI said:
God don't choose your destruction. God choose you for salvation.
Don't blame God on your bad chooses.
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I spoke to Him. You expect me to believe you over Him?
 
I like this explanation:

The Blood of Jesus – What the Bible Says…

This cult of blood and death is not true Christianity. Jesus never portrayed the angry, bloodthirsty God whose demand for “justice” could be appeased by the sight of His Son’s blood. Jesus did say that those who eat His flesh and drink His blood of the New Testament will receive life, but this was the only thing Jesus said about His blood, and His purpose in saying it was to take the focus off the bloody sacrifices and put it instead on His Life and Truth. His focus was always teaching us how to live in love for God and others, and He said nothing about being punished in our place. It would be well for all Christians today to follow His example, and take the focus off blood, death, and especially punishment, and put it instead on His teaching about how we should live
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I don't believe Jesus's suffering saved a single soul except by example. For me he is special because he was the perfect human being, but they crucified him for it. Meaning we live in a topsy turvy world: if you want to be good, expect some suffering.
 
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