Why are (((Atheists))) like this?

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

...have you noticed all the references associating god with light? perhaps his physical presence is within that glowing ball of fire in the sky.

Now you’re talking sense.
Sun worship is based

And he invented the most contrived method imaginable around his own rules.

I won't even go into the logical incoherence of an omniscient entity changing his mind.

My favorite part of trinitarianism is how Jesus and his father are supposed to be literally the same thing, but Jesus can somehow be begging his father for mercy on the Cross.

Then one by one different theologians tried to explain it, only to have the Church (does sign of the cross) tard rage, declare them heretics, murder their followers, and end up wiping out all possible explanations to where they had to say “it’s a mystery lol” and then smugly smirk in the self-satisfaction of their great intellectual coup.

Trinitarianism, not even once

 

[Matt Damon]

God never sat down humanity and did a keynote of all details of his plan.

Why not? Seems like religious people worldwide are in an abusive relationship with (at least the Abrahamic) God and they make excuses for thousands of years of capricious nonsense. If you believe what people tell you, God has the same level of maturity and communication skills as a teenage girl.

Ever watched a show or read a book where there is a clairvoyant with a plan?

I would hope the God of the universe was a little more competent than some LA hack writer.

 

[Shield Breaker]

But holy is what god says it is.
He is in charge, he can set things up any way he feels like.
Also, since god is all-knowing, the moment he decides to create a human, he already knows his fate and whether he will punish him or not.
He can make humans that he won't have to punish but he chooses to do otherwise.
It's pretty clear he gets off on punishing people for shit he doesn't like.

As for punishment, He also knew He would suffer and take the punishment. If you want Him to only allow those who will definitely choose to accept the offer, then it is only the illusion of free will.

My favorite part of trinitarianism is how Jesus and his father are supposed to be literally the same thing, but Jesus can somehow be begging his father for mercy on the Cross.

Then one by one different theologians tried to explain it, only to have the Church (does sign of the cross) tard rage, declare them heretics, murder their followers, and end up wiping out all possible explanations to where they had to say “it’s a mystery lol” and then smugly smirk in the self-satisfaction of their great intellectual coup.

Trinitarianism, not even once

Your favorite part is that something which resides outside of time and space, and is so intelligent it created physics we are still working to figure out, is described in a way we can barely comprehend? When people see angels in scripture, they don't think "oh, pretty" or act charmed. It's the equivalent of "oh, shit, I'm gonna die." These things then cover their own faces in the presence of God. The triune God is basically a good eldritch being if you think about it. The fact people are unable to properly describe Him in precise terms is unsurprising.

 

[Balalaika Z Bree]

See, this is the problem. Any time a religious person likes something in their text, they say "oh, it's totally obvious; it's written clear as day right there!". And then any time they DON'T like something or something in the text is nonsensical or contradictory "oh, well there are a lot of difficult passages and you need years of religious training to truly understand it".

In other words, you need to be fully indoctrinated into the cult before you're skilled enough and have enough sunk-cost personal investment to handwave all the bullshit.

So we aren't permitted to listen to the Church that wrote and handed down the Scriptures when it teaches that you must read it in light of their traditions? That reading a verse (or part of one) or chapter or even a book by itself may make little sense, or mislead you entirely if you deny it the significance which only comes from knowing the idiom, context, or that it is a reference to an earlier prophecy etc.?

My favorite part of trinitarianism is how Jesus and his father are supposed to be literally the same thing, but Jesus can somehow be begging his father for mercy on the Cross.

Of one substance, but three distinct persons. There are many analogies but no exact one, God being unique and over Creation, within which we draw all our experience.

Then one by one different theologians tried to explain it, only to have the Church (does sign of the cross) tard rage, declare them heretics, murder their followers, and end up wiping out all possible explanations to where they had to say “it’s a mystery lol” and then smugly smirk in the self-satisfaction of their great intellectual coup.

Trinitarianism, not even once

Just like recent history, there were many errors in justice and mercy in the history of the Church, and many just actions to defend the faith. The heretics you mention were not merely explaining it, they were corrupting it if they were heretics.

The triune God is basically a good eldritch being if you think about it. The fact people are unable to properly describe Him in precise terms is unsurprising.

Eldritch beings of fantasy are like misshapen shadows or distorted echos of the reality of the Living God, Glorious and Triune. He is not merely outside space and time, he sustains space and time, and matter and causality. He is ineffable, yet he has spoken to us wisdom and mercy, and Redeemed his fallen creatures by a willing self-sacrifice.

 

[Matt Damon]

So we aren't permitted to listen to the Church that wrote and handed down the Scriptures when it teaches that you must read it in light of their traditions? That reading a verse (or part of one) or chapter or even a book by itself may make little sense, or mislead you entirely if you deny it the significance which only comes from knowing the idiom, context, or that it is a reference to an earlier prophecy etc.?

I'm saying it's extraordinarily convenient that all the "challenging" passages that need "context" are all the ones that conflict with (more or less) the values of 20th century liberal democracies.

 

[Betonhaus]

you just need to have faith in gods plan

 

[Balalaika Z Bree]

I'm saying it's extraordinarily convenient that all the "challenging" passages that need "context" are all the ones that conflict with (more or less) the values of 20th century liberal democracies.

They all need context, and the "values" of liberal democracies are only borrowed from the faith in a few cases, and then so distorted as to be almost unrecognizable (e.g. dignity of human life doesn't include the unborn). No wonder those who seek to conform the truth of the Gospel to a modern culture of death and lies must ignore and reinterpret, betraying the traditions and the wisdom of the saints favoring the moving goalposts of current trends.

 

[Betonhaus]

Interesting how Catholics were tied.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Being an atheist is the easiest position to take in the modern world. It allows adults to forever be an overgrown child. Atheists think not answering to God means they are so independent valid super ultra adults, and they turn out to be kids who have jobs and don't live with parents. They answer to no one but their whim and the belief system of whatever that is paddled down by the society, and think that belief system is fundamentally superior to religiosity. This is why when society becomes increasingly less religious, you see ridiculously juvenile shit like BDSM+Homo parades, furries, pornography, prostitution, abortion, casual sex, aversion against marriage/family/responsibilities, the list goes on. These are things that overgrown kids do and pursue, they just want to "have fun" and "be their true self" and do whatever they want. What does an atheist have to lose if he is now to become a Christian, or Muslim? He has to stop the worldly enjoyment, control his desires, and live his life not just for him, but for his family, wife, kids, society, and God. There is a lot to gain spiritually for sure, but it's too much for many atheists to confront.

If one is raised atheist, the thought of becoming religious is daunting and they have to change their lives drastically. But a lot do. A lot of people raised Christian or Muslim have an atheist phase in highschool/college years, and realize being atheist should stay just a phase. But I wonder for those who were raised in religious households and become r/atheism level fedora tipper, why do they become so against God? Is it because they really think God don't exist, or do they feel far away from God? Well, the ones I know are overly represented by criminally morally detestable people, probably not truly representative, but it almost feels like they have strayed too far, and terrified of God's judgment, and they cope by yelling God doesn't exist. Or simply they do not want to/can't live up to the standard that God sets, and knows the consequence better than atheists with zero religious background.

But as an honest sperge, I'm confident many exceptional individuals here have an issue with God for true intellectual/ideological reasons. I have been that for a very long time, "umm actually if omnipotent AND benevolent," etc, etc. But as said for forever, religiosity/theology is not on the same level of philosophy/metaphysics, and requires faith. It's much more than just words and arguments. It's also much more than cope, feeling comfy, not wanting to go to hell, etc. All those come as the bonus, not the reason.

 

[Dude Snakes]

I am a shitty Christian. How can I not hate a godless heathens like HACKMAN mocking the massarce of teachers/kids by an insane poon?! Lord give me the strength to bear this smug monster.

He's delete the tweet. To prevent threats in his email.

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THE JEW CRIES OUT IN PAIN WHILE IT STRIKE YOU! FUCK YOU PACKMAN YOU GODLESS KIKE. I AM GLAD TO EMRACE JESUS CHRIST KNOWING IT PISSES YOU OFF.

 

[Cyclonus]

Atheism is so ten years ago. The new happenin' group is the nones, people who simply have no religion. The "atheist paradox" has long been noted, where the average atheist has better knowledge of the Bible than the average Christian, purely so they can point out the contradictions. If religion ever dies, it'll be because of the nones. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's complete and utter indifference.