Why are only MTFs unstable?

[pickledance]

Seriously, why are only MTF trans people the ones that lose it and become subjects of ridicule? I know they out number FTMs by like 30 to 1 but that doesn't seem to account for the sheer number of MTFs that are just out of their head.

Why the hell is this? Do these people just not know how to cope with emotions and get fucked when estrogen makes them more emotional, is it the victim complex, is it that FTM's generally find they can't cry once on testosterone and are less likely because of it to lose it over net bs?

I seriously don't understand if estrogen just makes people not used to it nutty or it's nutty people going on estrogen and thinking it will fix their dysphoria instead of shift it to passing anxiety instead of anxiety about their gender.

Thoughts?

 

[Pikimon]

Because a lot of men don't have a frame of reference for what is "normal" so a lot of them go batshit.

 

[Wallace]

Most transtrenders have some pretty bad anxiety/depression/general crazy issues to begin with, and estrogen makes them way more emotionally disregulated. Imagine being a guy and going through a second, female puberty. That would fuck anyone up.

 

[cuddle striker]

Actual trans people, yeah it's the estrogen. Puberty is hard for women naturally- it's hard medically induced too. Makes you emotional, depressed, fatigued. They don't realize that women's bodies are so different; they're often surprised at things biological women have become accustomed to. (secretions, being penetrated, hormonal shifts in body fat, all of it really). Usually it passes, they get used to it and the longer they're living as women and the further they get medically to being one, the more they calm down.

Trenders? Because they're chimping out that they still can't get laid even if they change their pronoun (and nothing else really). They're trying to sneak into lesbian-land and failing and they're angry men over that.

It can be hard to tell the difference between angsty teenage girls and ragey adult men at times.


edit to add: ftm trans people get perks from going through with things up to a certain point. passing as a man gives more credibility on a professional level, as well as a feeling of safety most women haven't ever had (unless they're MMA fighters or something). also testosterone, while it shortens your life span, doesn't amp up your emotions. They go through male puberty, which to them is positive less emotional affect, hair growing, more muscle.

 

[bbpoison]

The evolutionary mutation is by definition viewed as a defect.

 

[pickledance]

The evolutionary mutation is by definition viewed as a defect.

that doesn't explain why it's only MTFs though, if FTMs have the same kind of defect.

 

[Pikimon]

The evolutionary mutation is by definition viewed as a defect.

To be fair, mutations are fairly common and the vast majority have no noticeable effects.

 

[bbpoison]

that doesn't explain why it's only MTFs though, if FTMs have the same kind of defect.

Males even if they want to be girls generally have more neurotic tendencies? I really don't know because I've never physically/hormonal been a girl. But i can tell you personally that intelligent people who grew up with video games and media as their only companions because of the nature of our economy grouped with technology, that isolates all of us more and more, can become even more neurotic without a proper outlet and social companionship. Basically our technological advancement coupled with a monetary system which treats an individual as a consumer unit has put people in an environment where we can no longer physically, neurologically adapt ,creating these black holes of unstability. Dumping your mind into software or the internet of things is not yet viable so we're stuck in this purgatory, hellscape addicted to these dopamine awarding mostly solitary activities. This transitional phase to technological based life goes against the needs of the human organism which cannot be fullfilled by 2d screens alone. It can be argued males who believe that they should be females is a result of the neurotic obsession of wanting a girl so much that the most extreme way achieving that is to become one. I bet the majority of MTF still want have sex with girls but possible to want to be fucked by a man to confirm their obsessed desire to feel that femininity. For FTM maybe there's still a base feministic passivity that guides their neurolgical pathways even with testosterone. Current economic systems: schools, university resaerch, office jobs all support female sensibilities the expected pathway for the 21st century person. There is no outlet for male agression except neurotic behavior on online forms of communication. It's hard discern how much of gender is cultural.Evolution has designed xy chromosome bodies to develop penises to fuck and xx chromosome bodies vaginas to be fucked. Intelligence takes us toward bisexuality and androgyny but people cannot adapt to factory systems and have malourished social systems. Males no longer want to small talk and females are being confronted by every male, and culturally , even in this modern age people still have the ridiculous whore stigma, and many males are physically repulsive too especially shut in's who are overweight and have low self-esteem. Males who can no longer handle small talk but women need to emotionally fall in love with you before they fuck unless they don't, which is hard to tell if that is really a prerequisite, but I think it's a cultural meme thought to girls by their mothers and the media. The problem is the intelligent human cannot adapt to the enivronment and cannot find like mindend indivuals in a sea of culturally brainwashed individuals. The average intelligent human can no longer find anyone to communicate with truthfully Aliens want to be loved but are environmentally conditioned to stay alone.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

I think many of the more vocal ones you see on the internet might be autistic and have an autistic obsession with gender (Especially the trans lesbians who have a strong dislike of men and/or idolize lesbians in anime and cartoons).

In 2014, a study led by John Strang, of the Children’s National Medical Center in Washington DC, declared that “Evidence suggests over-representation of autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) and behavioral difficulties among people referred for gender issues”. His group found that “participants with ASD were 7.59 times more likely to express gender variance; participants with ADHD were 6.64 times more likely to express gender variance.”

He explained in a press release at the time:

“Children and adolescents with autism spectrum disorders may be less aware of the social restrictions against expressions of gender variance and therefore less likely to avoid expressing these inclinations. It could also be theorized that excessively rigid or ‘black and white’ thinking could result in such a child’s rigidly interpreting mild or moderate gender nonconforming inclinations as more intense or absolute.”

 

[AnOminous]

Seriously, why are only MTF trans people the ones that lose it and become subjects of ridicule? I know they out number FTMs by like 30 to 1 but that doesn't seem to account for the sheer number of MTFs that are just out of their head.

I think there's some reason MtFs actually are more dysphoric in general, but trannies of all kinds are very rare. The current extreme trendiness of being one now means that it's now much more likely someone claiming to be an MtF is just a fake than an actual transwoman. Many of these are just plain old fetishists, lunatics, and idiots who have nothing going for them so they troon out just to be special snowflakes, which they aren't.

 

[Ruin]

Seriously, why are only MTF trans people the ones that lose it and become subjects of ridicule? I know they out number FTMs by like 30 to 1 but that doesn't seem to account for the sheer number of MTFs that are just out of their head.

Why the hell is this? Do these people just not know how to cope with emotions and get fucked when estrogen makes them more emotional, is it the victim complex, is it that FTM's generally find they can't cry once on testosterone and are less likely because of it to lose it over net bs?

I seriously don't understand if estrogen just makes people not used to it nutty or it's nutty people going on estrogen and thinking it will fix their dysphoria instead of shift it to passing anxiety instead of anxiety about their gender.

Thoughts?

You're looking in the wrong places mocking MTFs is the norm on places like Kiwifarms, 4chan Something Sensitive ect, aka places where normies hang out. FTM trannies congregate in less visible places but I promise you they're no less insane.

Look at this shit if you don't believe me.

https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/ftm

 

[Terrorist]

Autogynephilia is much more common than autoandrophilia, since men tend to be more sexually deviant than women (when was the last time you saw a female furry?), so you've got an insane crossdresser/fetishist/molester demographic that doesn't really exist with FTM troons. MTFs are also more aggressive, again because mentally ill men are more likely to have violent tendencies than mentally ill women. Finally, men are put more pressure on to succeed and be providers than women, so some sad unstable fuckers who can't hack it as men will troon out, as a sort of psychotic break with reality, so you again have the common transcow "failed man" demographic that you don't get with women.

Also let's not whiteknight FTMs here, nearly all of them are arrested development psycho dykes with penis envy, a FUCK YOU MOM I'M NOT YOUR LITTLE BARBIE DOLL streak a mile wide, and the classic lesbo domestic abuse rates.

Huh, all the problems with transwomen are male problems, and with transmen female problems. What a crazy coincidence! It's like they're just crazy men/women who failed to escape their problems. Glad we know better than that.

 

[AnOminous]

You're looking in the wrong places mocking MTFs is the norm on places like Kiwifarms, 4chan Something Sensitive ect, aka places where normies hang out. FTM trannies congregate in less visible places but I promise you they're no less insane.

Look at this shit if you don't believe me.

https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/ftm

All people on the Internet are insane, though. Normies mainly hang out on Facebook and share cat pictures and pictures of deviled eggs and shit.

 

[Slumber Crasher]

Are there any FtM lolcow threads I've missed on the farms? I was actually wondering about this topic today.

Edited to avoid double posting

You're looking in the wrong places mocking MTFs is the norm on places like Kiwifarms, 4chan Something Sensitive ect, aka places where normies hang out. FTM trannies congregate in less visible places but I promise you they're no less insane.

Look at this shit if you don't believe me.

https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/ftm

Wow it just looks like a picture of the same person over and over

 

[UnderwaterUnderworld]

I'm my experience, there are plenty of dumb FTMS, but most don't engage in the level of violence MTFs do(like bringing axes to the Dyke march).
The worst you usually get from FTMs is "trans boys are soft and precious, I headcanon Peter Parker as trans uwu"

So it's obnoxious, but not intimidating.

 

[BurningPewter]

I always thought one contributor is that a woman looking/acting male isn't really that big a deal - short hair and jeans are normal for women now. But a male looking/acting female is much more rare/commented on so takes a higher level of crazy to cope with.

 

[escapegoat]

I've run across the occasional batshit FTM.

I think the difference might just be that the batshittery requires a certain level of narcissism. Also, you can be a man, pretty easily, without overtly performing weird, excessive, obviously porn-flavored manliness. It's fairly common to run across FTMs who were dykes, and who are okay with just being Chris, the normal-levels of masculine sort of guy, who wants to bang his old lady and maybe build a deck. Chris doesn't want to be like, PORN GOD CHAD THUNDERCOCK, EXTREME-MAN2000. You're a lot more likely to find MTFs that wanna be pretty pretty princess porn star, the Cyuuuuuuuuuuutest Lesbian Wonder, and not just Linda from Accounting, who is married to Bob. And the ones who DO wanna be Linda from Accounting don't start YouTube channels or hashtags on Twitter.

 

[Fareal]

I've run across the occasional batshit FTM.

I think the difference might just be that the batshittery requires a certain level of narcissism. Also, you can be a man, pretty easily, without overtly performing weird, excessive, obviously porn-flavored manliness. It's fairly common to run across FTMs who were dykes, and who are okay with just being Chris, the normal-levels of masculine sort of guy, who wants to bang his old lady and maybe build a deck. Chris doesn't want to be like, PORN GOD CHAD THUNDERCOCK, EXTREME-MAN2000. You're a lot more likely to find MTFs that wanna be pretty pretty princess porn star, the Cyuuuuuuuuuuutest Lesbian Wonder, and not just Linda from Accounting, who is married to Bob. And the ones who DO wanna be Linda from Accounting don't start YouTube channels or hashtags on Twitter.

I agree with this. People i know, have worked with etc who transitioned during the time we knew each other without exception all wanted just to be called by their right name, right pronouns, and no one act like a fucking dick about their transition.

It seriously wasnt all they fucking talked about. It was a topic they generally actively avoided and everyone who wasnt a massive cunt who knew them also avoided it.

 

[escapegoat]

The two exceptional FTMs I know are both in academia, and they're pretty similar in wanting to be The First. The First Transman to this or that. The real barrier breaking, activist/artist/academic. They both jump at the shot to be written about or on TV. They have fame boners. Delicate fame ladyboners.

 

[cuddle striker]

I think the thread title is off. it shouldn't be "only", it should be "mostly".