Why are people writing OPs in the Community Feature Submissions thread

[RollingRock2]

No hate but it should be 3 sentences maximum and only have a picture or video if it actually shows the content the post is about. Look at this most recent page. You should be able to glance at a post and decide if the thread interest you. This is four submissions.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/community-feature-submissions.114933/page-414

 

[Hellwalker]

Why not? It allows people who submit to thoroughly explain the situation at hand with context and that lets the jannies see if the submission is good enough to be a feature without having to investigate themselves.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

It all boils down to the one individual who won't hit the "Report" button:

Why not? It allows people who submit to thoroughly explain the situation at hand with context and that lets the jannies see if the submission is good enough to be a feature without having to investigate themselves.

Good question, @Cosmyck--let's see what Dear Feeder has to say about it in the OP to the thread.

Do's

• Use this thread, even if you don't think you're "famous". It's a great way to share things you enjoy.
• Always include a concise description of what has happened.
• Always include a link to the Kiwi Farms. This is not negotiable. Quotes are OK, inline links are OK, but just copy+pasting the URL to its own line is the best.
• Optionally, include a thumbnailed image (how do I thumbnail an image?) or video to complement the link.
• Occasional stupid/fun updates are from minor threads welcome.

Don'ts

• Do not ever, under any circumstances, use this thread as a place to discuss, litigate, or argue with other users for any reason whatsoever.
• Do not ever link off-site. Every link must point to the Kiwi Farms, even if the post it is linking to has off-site links.
• Do not put gratuitous banners in your post. If you want to add a banner, you keep it small.
• Similarly, do not stylize your post. Don't change the font, change text color, text size, or use alignment tags to center things.
• Do not embed an excessive amount of media. About one image or video per link is acceptable. If it's a very large summary, you can get away with more, but it better be worth it.
• Do not promote threads about people or groups who benefit from or seek attention, such as ...
  • Cybercriminal organizations, especially in the industry of pornography,
  • People directly trying to antagonize the Kiwi Farms for self-enrichment,
  • Pornographers (i.e. anyone with an OnlyFans doing any sort of publicity stunt),
• ... unless the update is that they're dead, in jail, or otherwise have verifiable life-ruining problems.

Report

• Posts that exist to respond to an update which belong in the actual thread of the submitted content.
• Posts with no Kiwi Farms link.
• Posts with links to any website, but especially OnlyFans or other self-enrichment sites.
• Posts which are angry rebuttals disguised as 'clarification' or an 'update'.
• Posts which contain uncensored NSFW.
• Posts that are significantly factually incorrect. Do not reply in the thread to correct people.

 

[RollingRock2]

Why not? It allows people who submit to thoroughly explain the situation at hand with context and that lets the jannies see if the submission is good enough to be a feature without having to investigate themselves.

Because that's not the purpose of the thread

 

[Vect]

Adding a bulk of context and history that might intrigue people is fine, the only problem is - no offense to the authors, I'm occasionally guilty of it - that they're inefficiently written, with meandering exposition, needless commentary and no focus or hierarchy of information.

But it's a community noticeboard, so each to their own and let the free market decide.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

It all boils down to the one individual who won't hit the "Report" button:

Do you absolute little baby niggers think Josh doesn't fucking read the thread on an ongoing basis throughout the day and you need to report the content for him to see it? Do you think every one of the mods don't read the main submission thread on the site? Are you completely retarded? Are you gay?

People post longer stuff because the poster is trying to drum up interest and give things a quick rundown for anyone who doesn't care enough to actually read the thread. Meanwhile what's the downside, you have to scroll your mouse wheel an extra time?

You're a dumb nigger.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

Do you absolute little baby niggers think Josh doesn't fucking read the thread on an ongoing basis thought the day and you need to report the content for him to see it? Do you think every one of the mods don't read the main submission thread on the site? Are you completely retarded? Are you gay?

People post longer stuff because the poster is trying to drum up interest and give things a quick rundown for anyone who doesn't care enough to actually read the thread. Meanwhile what's the downside, you have to scroll your mouse wheel an extra time?

You're a dumb nigger.

So in other words, you place the burden of responsibility entirely on the relatively small amount of mods and administrators who - if they were completely honest - simply don't see or care about every single thread, especially the ones that gain tens or hundreds of posts per day?

 

[holyhandgrenade]

I agree I’m not reading all that to maybe slightly care about your obscure happening. Post the thing that happened and a link to it if people care they will follow the link and read thread op for context. The only downside is this would increase the traffic of happenings niggers who don’t know anything about the subject commenting. That’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
The last post is extra retarded because it’s basically entirely conjecture from tabloid magazines.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

I’m just saying if we have a criteria for automatic failure in proving grounds, we should have a criteria for automatic success and approval as well:

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

This could be fixed by using spoiler tags more often to contain this autism. Have a paragraph of text, 1 video/image, thread link(s), and a giant spoiler for anything else.

 

[Cat tit bingo]

I can understand a brief summary of lesser known cows' shtick if it the news needs that context but for any well known cows it's can get redundant. It's also very easy to want to put multiple examples of something when talking about it, that's just best practice when writing, but you should try to refrain from posting more than just one.
I believe ideally the happening post should just be the hook, the post you're linking to should be the actual meat. Sure sometimes you have to link to someone else's post that's not the most comprehensive but i think that should be the mentality.

 

[neger psykolog]

I see my avatar in the OP a lot:


I obviously do it a lot but my justification is that there are interesting stories that are worth a bit of additional khantext - I do check the ratings and if they're overwhelmingly negative then I would reconsider or edit stuff down (or even fully delete a post). But for the most part they seem to generate a decent amount of interest.

And some things that are relatively novel/new require a bit of explanation to make sense. If I were to just write "Argentina made a memecoin and it dumped" it doesn't really explain enough of the story to captivate people to learn more about it or take an interest in it or do a good job in explaining why this novel space on the internet is rapidly gaining traction. My part on the farms has always kind of been to create interesting spaces and places of discussion (I would say so at least)... so when there is something relatively new and I think it's going to become an interesting and active point of discussion in the near future then I'll definitely put in some additional shit to make it interesting and try to get some people who hadn't heard about it to look into it.

There's a vast difference between providing just an update and generating intrigue and interest in an especially pivotal update. People may not fully gather how major some updates are without necessary khantext. And some people may also argue "this is DSP, everyone knows who DSP is, we don't need a lengthy update" but they don't realize he has the subforum with the most posts on it on KF - so if I'm writing a lengthy DSP community post, then it is because something significant has happened.

I'm also familiar with dear feeder's rules: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/why-ar...ature-submissions-thread.212267/post-20606093 but I'm also familiar with the fact that dear feeder said people weren't using it enough to begin with. I have had community happening posts deleted by mods in the past (from what I can remember) but I'm sure if it I push it too far then mods will talk to me about it. Those rules for the most part are generally "don'ts" and it has always been said, just post fucking updates and if mods decide they're too autistic/long/gay they will just delete them (of course if someone does it repeatedly or breaches the actual rules they'll just get threadbanned from that thread)

In my defense: I try to explain clearly what topic it is I'm gonna be writing about in the first line so if people are like "I don't care about DSP" or "I don't care about Luigi Mangione" then they can literally just scroll past it.

This could be fixed by using spoiler tags more often to contain this autism. Have a paragraph of text, 1 video/image, thread link(s), and a giant spoiler for anything else.

yeah I'll personally consider using spoiler tags a bit more

dear feeder wrote this a while ago (in particular note the section at the bottom that I bolded/underlined):

The forum sees over 10,000 daily sign-ins. We have over 2,000 threads in on-topic areas. Additionally, we have very active off-topic categories for discussing things not related to Internet drama.

If I feature any thread on this website, or if a user posts a Community Happenings thread, there is a guarantee that a not-insignificant portion of general traffic will not care at all. That's why it benefits the forum to have more features and more community updates, not fewer.

There are some groups of people who are very eager to share in the Community Happenings thread anytime anything happens, and then there are some threads in which huge and very funny things happen and nobody outside the thread notices because they don't talk about it. I think a reason a lot of groups don't bother sharing funny things with others is that there is a type of user I will call "feature tourists" who violently shit up every thread that lands on the front page.

In the future, when the forum software rewrite is complete, I will have a more advanced way to limit new posts in featured threads. In particular, I'd like to try a delay between opening a thread you've never read before after it has been featured, and being able to make a new post to it.

Until that is ready (and it will not be for a very long time), people will simply have to exercise human restraint. The two kinds of posts I'd like to see less of are:

• Posts that exist simply to state you don't care about the recent feature or community happenings post. Generally, I will threadban these people, but since they don't care it's a weak deterrent.
• Posts that exist simply to state the most obvious, superficial observation possible for the sole purpose of getting a post in as close to the featured post, like a game of horse shoes.

If someone is genuinely shitting up the Community Happenings thread with spurious updates, chances are I will be the first to notice it. However, if you have a general complaint, make it in Talk to Staff or via reports, not in the thread.

I'd also like to see more people trying to post a Community Happenings post. There's a lot of threads that never get featured, even when something funny happens. A lot of more recent posts have been very long, with complete summaries, and images and videos. You don't really need all that. If someone does something and it's a very simple something, a tagline and a link is really all you need. There's not much risk, because if people don't care, they won't post. The absolute worst that can happen is I will delete the post.

edit:

The last post is extra retarded because it’s basically entirely conjecture from tabloid magazines.

I think this mentality is entirely wrong. The community happenings thread includes both updates about lolcows as well as newsworthy stuff. The line between lolcow and celebrity has increasingly become blurred, so if an update like that includes conjecture from tabloid magazines yet is still a noteworthy, relevant update that explains a "current happening" (that hasn't taken place directly on the farms) then it is still worth seeing.

 

[Probably An Autist]

Concise is nice, but I do appreciate the slightly longer explanations for reasons @neger psykolog said; I don't follow a lot of threads, I like context of why the particular sperg being discussed is funny.

also a long post > no post.

 

[WelperHelper99]

It depends on the thread tbh. If it is on the tier of "This lolcow stubbed his toe!", yeah, why the fuck are you writing five fucking paragraphs like this is a high school essay? Now if its something genuinely big? I can see going into detail. Also, a qualifier. If a cow is posted about A LOT (looking at the Rekita fags), just post the bare minimum, we all know who Rackets is, no need to explain the history of middle earth.

 

[David Brown]

Do you absolute little baby niggers think Josh doesn't fucking read the thread on an ongoing basis throughout the day and you need to report the content for him to see it? Do you think every one of the mods don't read the main submission thread on the site? Are you completely retarded? Are you gay?

People post longer stuff because the poster is trying to drum up interest and give things a quick rundown for anyone who doesn't care enough to actually read the thread. Meanwhile what's the downside, you have to scroll your mouse wheel an extra time?

You're a dumb nigger.

I report dogshit posts in Community Happenings all the time and it usually gets taken down. Turns out the report button works.

 

[neger psykolog]

I report dogshit posts in Community Happenings all the time and it usually gets taken down. Turns out the report button works.

Yeah and Dear Feeder has always been open and upfront that the worst that will happen is a mod will delete your community happenings post (unless you keep doing the thing you're not supposed to be doing). So if people find long posts objectionable, click report and say "this post is too long" and a mod is either gonna disagree or agree with you.

They might not even delete it and just tell the poster to shorten it or use more spoiler tags in the future.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/if-you-dont-care-dont-post.190719/post-18310633

Like the post itself literally takes almost no resources - if people like longer posts, then great. If people hate them then they can either be removed or edited.

 

[Spunt]

I had a Community Happenings post jannied for being "too long" a couple of weeks back.

I then re-wrote it entirely in Newspeak to improve its brevity:

This got jannied too. LITERALLY 1984.

 

[Sprate Header]

>writing OPs in the community happenings thread

 

[spider_expert]

I had a Community Happenings post jannied for being "too long" a couple of weeks back.

I then re-wrote it entirely in Newspeak to improve its brevity:

View attachment 6990093

This got jannied too. LITERALLY 1984.

Seems kinda fair, it was a gay post.

 

[the rat]

I obviously do it a lot but my justification is that there are interesting stories that are worth a bit of additional khantext - I do check the ratings and if they're overwhelmingly negative then I would reconsider or edit stuff down (or even fully delete a post). But for the most part they seem to generate a decent amount of interest.

And some things that are relatively novel/new require a bit of explanation to make sense. If I were to just write "Argentina made a memecoin and it dumped" it doesn't really explain enough of the story to captivate people to learn more about it or take an interest in it or do a good job in explaining why this novel space on the internet is rapidly gaining traction. My part on the farms has always kind of been to create interesting spaces and places of discussion (I would say so at least)... so when there is something relatively new and I think it's going to become an interesting and active point of discussion in the near future then I'll definitely put in some additional shit to make it interesting and try to get some people who hadn't heard about it to look into it.

There's a vast difference between providing just an update and generating intrigue and interest in an especially pivotal update. People may not fully gather how major some updates are without necessary khantext. And some people may also argue "this is DSP, everyone knows who DSP is, we don't need a lengthy update" but they don't realize he has the subforum with the most posts on it on KF - so if I'm writing a lengthy DSP community post, then it is because something significant has happened.

I'm also familiar with dear feeder's rules: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/why-ar...ature-submissions-thread.212267/post-20606093 but I'm also familiar with the fact that dear feeder said people weren't using it enough to begin with. I have had community happening posts deleted by mods in the past (from what I can remember) but I'm sure if it I push it too far then mods will talk to me about it. Those rules for the most part are generally "don'ts" and it has always been said, just post fucking updates and if mods decide they're too autistic/long/gay they will just delete them (of course if someone does it repeatedly or breaches the actual rules they'll just get threadbanned from that thread)

In my defense: I try to explain clearly what topic it is I'm gonna be writing about in the first line so if people are like "I don't care about DSP" or "I don't care about Luigi Mangione" then they can literally just scroll past it.

Have you tried just writing shorter posts?