Why are some third worlders more happy then western people despite being worse off in every material aspect?

[Irish Turtle]

I am speaking on a purely anecdotal basis here, I know some people in iran who are absolutely poor they are living in the slummy parts of a city in a small apartment but despite that they are happy with themselves and their lives. However some people in the west I know are miserable despite being rich, for example one of my classmates who was from a mega rich family killed himself through a intentional overdose.

 

[Neodanthril]

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

 

[EverybodyWalktheDinosaur]

Some of the dumbest people I know are the happiest because they're too dumb to know how bad things are and are physically incapable of "overthinking".
So...that?

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

They're probably too stupid to know they're being exploited. Like cows being led to the slaughter.

 

[Vect]

Remember that scene from The Matrix, where Agent Smith explain to Morpheus that the first Matrix designed by the machines was a paradise - and a failure, because people could not accept a world without hardship? It's basically that. What little you can earn through work and toil becomes so much more precious than a fortune thus entitled.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Do they have Nintendo and Tizer in heaven?

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

Expectations.

People at risk at death from starvation in Africa are pleased when the harvest goes fine and when the freedom fighters don't steal their children.

People in the first world are unhappy when the latest AAA game release date is postponed.

 

[Brightstar777]

Because materialistic things won't give you spiritual pleasure.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Let me rephrase that question so that it answers itself:

Why do people who don't derive pleasure for retarded social titles that ultimately mean and do nothing, frivolous buys that get old quickly and vain useage of money and from the fact they are even alive today and not sick, the fact that their loved ones and friends are alive today and not sick, the fact that they are part of a greater social community that is still rather connected instead of being isolated economic units in a social order that alienates the individual for an increase in capital of some corporation happy?


It really just comes down to the modern first world isn't oriented toward individual happiness, but individual exploitation by the leaders of this world order for their benefit. Even during the Gilded Age and the Industrial Revolution before that , you'd still see a lot of people generally happy they were alive and well, their family/friends/lovers were alive and well and they got to live another day. The first world is is spiritually dull to the point where being alive is tedium and the third world is still rather vicious, but that just makes you more grateful for everyday you have. Same thing with the second world too, but you said third world so I'm going off of that.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Remember that scene from The Matrix, where Agent Smith explain to Morpheus that the first Matrix designed by the machines was a paradise - and a failure, because people could not accept a world without hardship? It's basically that. What little you can earn through work and toil becomes so much more precious than a fortune thus entitled.

Now then you mention it, it remind me also of the beginning of the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy" showing the Bushmen of the Kalahari desert happy with no modern comfort until the arrival of a bottle of Coca-cola.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Stay poor, submit and don't question your betters because your reward is after you're dead. Trust me. Sounds like something the Late Roman Empire would really like to push to keep quiet the growing populations of serfs and slaves exploited by wealthy landlords.

 

[Brightstar777]

Stay poor, submit and don't question your betters because your reward is after you're dead. Trust me. Sounds like something the Late Roman Empire would really like to push to keep quiet the growing populations of serfs and slaves exploited by wealthy landlords.

you didn't understand the verses correctly, Just don't chase materialistic pleasures like a fool you will be fine.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

you didn't understand the verses correctly, Just don't chase materialistic pleasures like a fool you will be fine.

I see, then why don't the wealthy clergy and nobility follow this advice? They certainly loved preaching what they didn't practice.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

I see, then why don't the wealthy clergy and nobility follow this advice? They certainly loved preaching what they didn't practice.

There's a lot of pious poor Catholic priests out there doing missionary work, feeding the poor and naked and the hungry and just being Christ's vicars on Earth too you know. Just because some priests don't take their vow of chastity and poverty serioussly doesn't mean all or even most don't. I'm not simping for priests mind. I think some of them can be right cunts and they are human after all. But you just come across as if all priests are out there sinning and doing everything in their power to sin against the Mystic Body of Christ and it's not just a select few that make it a habit (ebic) to do so.


It's like using using that one Serbian Orthodox bishop that raped boys and girls to conclude all bishops and priests do so. It'd be wise for you to watch your own faith (or lack thereof) rather than pretend to care about hat of others you don't even know.

 

[Fapcop]

I dont know man, but there’s something there.

If you look at suicide rates in a third world country like Brazil, they’re lower than in many first world countries.

Maybe more communal ties? Stronger families? Less stress? Societies that aren’t imploding from migration and Globohomo bullshit?

 

[strawberry15]

I was living in netherlands for 2 or so years. I met with a Russian girl, she is married. She and her husband get a loan from bank and bought a house. It was cheaper then paying rent.
I also had Spanish, Italian and German friends. They never bothered with marriage (german was close but he got cheated), they use pot, they use alcahol, they are lazy. They think they are free, they prefer rent because this way they are free. if they don't like or bored by their place, they can just change it.
Russian girl had a bigger house, she had neighbors, paying mortgage is easier than paying rent. My friends pay riddicilus amounts of rent, and home owners likes to cyle renters so no one wants long term contracts.

Russian girl looks at life as responsibility. Others looks at life as bunch of arbitary contracts. Your gender, family, culture, history is a contract that you can cancel with your consent like it was rent. Russian girl, even in hardships, live contently while others suffer existencial crisis.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

The closer the country is to the West culturally and geographically,
(Inb4 >B-BUT THEY ARE BROWN, SO THEY ARE NOT WESTERN reeeeeeeing) the less true this is apparently, although it could be due to underreporting in the islamic and african shitholes.
Anxiety and depression is rampant, specially in the lower classes, and the suicide rates are not big mostly due to cultural shaming.

I dont know man, but there’s something there.

If you look at suicide rates in a third world country like Brazil, they’re lower than in many first world countries.

Maybe more communal ties? Stronger families? Less stress? Societies that aren’t imploding from migration and Globohomo bullshit?

According to the WHO, Brazil was actually worse than the UK during the COVID epidemic.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

I'd rant about how humans weren't meant to live in cities but you used a third worlder who lives in a cramped apartment as an example so I feel in this instance it wouldn't hold much water.

There isn't a sole reason for it, but something the third worlders tend to do that is commendable is that they care more about family bonds. Shithole countries tend to have small communities made up of massive families, multiple generations living below the same roof. Meanwhile in the west, you're expected to leave your family, not moving out is seen as a failure, and the family bonds are so fragile that some people will cut them off at the drop of a hat.

In the end, I think western families are more likely to be dysfunctional.

 

[Fapcop]

The closer the country is to the West culturally and geographically,
(Inb4 >B-BUT THEY ARE BROWN, SO THEY ARE NOT WESTERN reeeeeeeing) the less true this is apparently, although it could be due to underreporting in the islamic and african shitholes.
Anxiety and depression is rampant, specially in the lower classes, and the suicide rates are not big mostly due to cultural shaming.

According to the WHO, Brazil was actually worse than the UK during the COVID epidemic.

According to WHO, America and Scandinavia have higher suicide rates than South America and many African countries.

 

[FamicomGorby]

I think it is just expectations in life. Like if someone is born in Ethiopia or something they're probably aware of life styles around the world but also know what the most realistic level they can reach is. So like them being upset they aren't enjoying a first world type life style would be like someone from rural Louisiana being pissed off they aren't living like Bill Gates.

Also just cause someone is happy doesn't mean the life they lead is morally good or right. Like I'm sure all those Indians that will mass grope/rape a tourist are happy with their lives but that's not something aspire to.