Why are supermarkets filled with GMO Poison? - Is this why Walmart discounts their food?

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Depends on the brand if it's on shelves and if it's made in the store bakery.
Not as many factory produced American breads have sugar as people think. It's usually the bottom-of-the-barrel bread that turns to mush in your mouth. The preservatives are usually acids like sorbic acid or calcium propinate that inhibits mold growth.
Cheap sourdough does have sugar in it along with citric acid.

 

[Night Crawler]

@Otterly

Bread shouldn’t last weeks. Bread lasts weeks in the states??? Fresh white bread lasts a day. Fresh brown a day or two of wrapped. Cheap nasty but yummy toasted warburtons sliced lasts a few days. Are you guys soaking it in formaldehyde or something? I’m now sad you’ve never had real bread. Please bake some

About 12 days or so. That's nearly 2 weeks. Depending on how well your store it. As long as it's kept cool and dry it will last a while. It might get a bit stale but it won't grow any mold. I have eaten white bread that's sat on the table for probably 2 weeks. I know some people over here, mostly poor people that freeze it. You freeze and it lasts longer than that.

That's how things are in the US. If you believe the media and think everyone over here is upper middle class or something you are in for a shock. Most people can't afford to throw out loafs of bread every few days. Considering even the nice mass produced bread in the store is about $4-$5 a loaf. Our bread has sell by dates or expiration dates on them. They could be nearly 2 weeks away depending on when you buy it.

They also used to put corn syrup in white bread here in the states because it's cheap and they said it helped make the bread soft. It was almost like a fresh sponge just taken out of package before they started taking the corn syrup out.

 

[Secret Asshole]

The fear over GMOs and human health is misplaced. You should be more worried about the pesticides used on your food, the corners cut making it rather than GMOs. Though, there's other reasons to watch for GMOs, much more evil and insidious reasons.

What you should be concerned about with GMOs is terminator seeds, seeds and plants that are designed only to be used with certain herbicides, seeds that are designed to only be used with certain fertilizers and products (these exist) and the fact that Monsanto hunts you down if you are caught using their 'round-up ready' seeds without paying. This includes if they accidentally grow on your farm. And yes, Monsanto has people that go out and do this. By the by, you're expected to buy new seeds every single time you plant and to not save seeds. If you don't do this and save seeds and plant them, they sue you for copyright infringment. Yes, they're claiming copyright on shit you grew and produced yourself. It is batshit insanity, and copyrighting life itself is the most evil, dystopian thing you can do.

There's a big reason Monsanto is evil, and its the way they use their seeds. Monsanto is actively designing seeds that don't grow unless you use their products. This is the main cause of worry behind GMOs, and as usual it is corporate malice. They seek to utterly control seeds and the supply of food. Its why a lot of farmers are actively rebelling against Monsanto and developing their own seeds. Shit, Monsanto has tried passing legislation to make only its seeds allowed to be used in places, its fucking nutty how insanely evil and sociopathic they are.

Don't be retarded like Green Peace and terrifying third world nations to not use golden rice (they did this in India and it caused an estimated $4.5 TRILLION dollar loss in productivity due to malnutrition). The amount of harm Greenpeace has done to people and the environment is astonishing.

4. Viral sequences are used in the trans gene promoters like cauliflower mosaic virus which seems to actually encode usable functional proteins - the science says it’s safe lot denied this happened but it does and it seems to duck up plant responses to pathogens. If these genes escape into the wolf whoch they always do, that’s unknown ecological consequences. Think cane toads.

Already done. Round-up ready plants and the gene itself has been found in the wild. Also there's big evidence that glyphosate (roundup) causes cancer as well. So there's that.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Monsanto is no longer around. They were bought out by Bayer in 2018. Bayer got rid of the Monsanto branding but kept the products.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

On the topic of added salts, sugars and such, I feel its important to raise that its really not being done because its addictive. Most people up and down the chain are genuinely ignorant (or actively in denial of how addictive these things are). What is happening is that people want really palatable, tasty, cheap food. So they buy these sugar laden monstrosities, and they buy them much more than the alternatives. So no shit people start making more of those, and everything shifts towards them. Then it just becomes a positive feedback loop until you end up with shit like oreos breakfast cereal.

Its easy to assume malice when the outcome is so obviously detrimental, but what we're seeing is a general structural flaw in the free market - People only make the best choices for themselves when they are well educated on the topic, and most people are retarded. Its not even the usual study manipulation and such, its the fact that people will accept the study, any study, over the their own experiences and encounters in the world. Accepting someones word over your own observations and experiments is itself anti-scientific. People see folks who eat way too much shitty food, and get fat, and see folks who eat good food and don't get fat. They hum and haw over their observation, and conclude the fat person is genetically gifted such as to violate thermogenesis, so mcdicks is totally ok.

GMO crops are fine, Evil corporate activities aside. I do hold some concern about monocultures and whether we're really selecting for the right traits - Growing Bigger and Faster does not explicitly mean its a better food crop for anything other than sale values measured by volume. But the former is easily addressed with good farming practices and only a modicum of competition, which does exist. And the latter is just one of those likely human mistakes we'll be fumbling through since nothing is perfect.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Simple answer--capitalism, at least our current model which is best called supercapitalism. Making goyslop is cheap and profitable. Companies like cheap and profitable, ergo more goyslop will be made. Profits will be invested to make buyers at every level from corporations to individuals prefer goyslop and buy more. Lobbyists will be employed to make sure goyslop is deemed safe and nutritious. PR firms will be hired to convince scientists to write papers praising the nutritious values of eating goyslop. Lawyers will be hired to fight off lawsuits over bad goyslop and keep the market closed to companies not marketing goyslop.

Your only option is to find food which is not goyslop, or if necessary, mitigate the goyslop with a healthy diet and exercise. Eat less. Try and find fresh food. Do not eat frozen and prepackaged food and never, ever eat fast food. Especially monitor your sodium intake, since food is way too full of it. It's a silent, invisible killer unlike obesity, since sodium leads to high blood pressure and stroke and contributes to other illnesses like heart attacks and such.

I guess some places don't have good enough environments to grow certain foods so sacrifices had to be made to ship them internationally. Unless someone can innovate make an ideal environment to grow these foods in these areas, they end up more expensive and lower quality. Especially in Iqaluit where it's brutal cold climate makes it impossible to grow almost anything.

Greenhouses work everywhere, especially in places like Iqaluit which get near-constant sun in the summer. Same thing with hydroponics/aquaponics/etc. All are great options since it makes organic farming much less risky because if you don't use pest-infested soil, there are no pests of these plants native to the Arctic. The only problem is their distance and undeveloped local infrastructure/supply chains makes it impossible to profitably do so. Like IIRC one huge problem with getting fresh food and vegetables in these Arctic communities is the fact that all the local stores (which are government run) have a tendency to import goyslop (which is half the reason why all the local Indians and Eskimos are fat and diabetic) instead of buy locally, and when they do buy locally, they aren't paying enough for it to be worth the time to local residents to raise those crops.

I noticed the damaging consequences of the sin of Sloth. Accepting convenience is a temptation itself under a false utopia and leads to unruly results. I am focusing on tackling the composition in my brain that leads to unusual stigmas. I am convinced this will destroy what's been crippling me. With very little in the way, I can pursue a more ideal lifestyle and regain the attributes of my ancestors.

I can also mention a correlation of men today being much weaker than their ancestors. This also reminds me the Lord of the Rings where men of the Third Age is weaker than those of the previous 2 ages. Even Sauron being weaker than Melkor. It even elaborated on men of the first age. This was long before Soyboys and Faggots were represented as cool in the media. There was even a character known as Gollum who has an insanely weak figure as he was horrendously damaged by the ring. But was slowly regaining attributes of his old innocent self when he wasn't with the ring and thus regained social skills the May help him recover. If he wasn't a warning for emasculated men, I don't know what is.

Tolkien based his work on actual cultures which believed this, and it's clear this was inadvertently discovered thousands of years ago when man started to farm, hence why many cultures from China to Mesopotamia to Jews (Adam and Eve being immortal, Noah lived 950 years, Abraham and his wife having kids at age 100, etc.) to Indo-Europeans (Greek Ages of Man, Hindu yugas) have traditions of past golden ages where man lived thousands of years and was spiritually wise and powerful. Basically farming was really, really bad for the human race, and we know this because when we unearth skeletons of cultures which shifted to farming like the ancient Maya people thousands of years ago decreased in height by several inches, lived several years less on average, and suffered weaker bones and increased tooth decay than their hunter-gatherer ancestors.

And keep in mind that every one of these groups claimed it will get worse before someone comes and purges this world of its filth.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Do you even know what a GMO is? A GMO is a genetically-modified crop, ie, we used a laboratory to do what we would have used to use generations of selective breeding to achieve. Only yuppie faggots care about GMOs.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I've never seen a single person that's super preoccupied by stuff like GMOs also being an athlete.
I have the privilege to work, almost daily, with very healthy people, many of them young, and many from disadvantaged communities. Some have lived for years on a diet of the cheapest bread and yogurt, with the rare weekly chicken backs soup and some meat paste spread.
They also have 6 packs, are 1.90, can dunk, can row like champions, and run 30 mins 10ks.
To clarify, some of these additives and foods can be dangerous and I am highly suspicious of them. But if you're a sedentary fat fuck, you don't get to complain. What damage the food is doing to you, you are doing 1000 fold by not being active and not working out, and you can offset most of the goyslop damage by simply doing what you need to do to keep your body in shape.

 

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

I've never seen a single person that's super preoccupied by stuff like GMOs also being an athlete.
I have the privilege to work, almost daily, with very healthy people, many of them young, and many from disadvantaged communities. Some have lived for years on a diet of the cheapest bread and yogurt, with the rare weekly chicken backs soup and some meat paste spread.
They also have 6 packs, are 1.90, can dunk, can row like champions, and run 30 mins 10ks.
To clarify, some of these additives and foods can be dangerous and I am highly suspicious of them. But if you're a sedentary fat fuck, you don't get to complain. What damage the food is doing to you, you are doing 1000 fold by not being active and not working out, and you can offset most of the goyslop damage by simply doing what you need to do to keep your body in shape.

Well that's the main reason for this whole topic being prevalent, shifting responsibility to others feels good psychologically and we live in a world where the paradigm is to blame le evil rich person/corporations for every single bad thing in the world, I even saw a clip of Joe Rogan talking about how the food industry is what makes America obese (rather than Americans poor choices) and saw a documentary once that said eating goyslop and fast food is cheaper than real food (this isn't true and I'll explain why).

I went to Walmart website and I found the following things:

• 5lbs of rice for $3.52. Zero fats, zero added sugars, nothing bad on the label, just plain white rice.
• 5lbs of white flour for $2.57, again no added sugars or anything strange.
• 1 Gallon of 2% milk for $3.09, the only thing that seems bad is 12 grams of sugar but after googling it milk naturally has 12 grams of sugar in it, so nothing bad was added.

I could go on but I think the point was made, you can cook your own bread (I do it all the time, takes 5 minutes and I store it on the freezer wrapped in plastic film), you can buy all sort of legumes that have a lot of protein for being vegetable based food, you can buy cheap meat that takes longer to cook but it's not bad for you or you can buy chicken, hell you can even buy those new foods that are super healthy but more expensive such as pasta made with legumes (which have more fiber and protein content than normal pasta). Buying microwave food or bread that takes weeks to grow mold is more expensive than real food and worse for you, and it's the same with fast food, the thing is that admitting that people are unhealthy due to their own bad decisions doesn't make people feel good (specially fat people) and it doesn't reinforce the ideology that says people who have issues dindu nuffin and it's all the fault of someone else.

Yes, healthy people never talk about this topic because there is no point to it, you have a lot of food choices so complaining about GMO, corn syrup, sugar in foods, and all of those things is non-sensical because the same supermarket that sells those bad foods also sells healthy food that people choose not to put in their shopping cart, an analogy would be blaming the internet for people wasting their time on it, when in reality there is a million tutorials for useful things on youtube and lots of websites to learn stuff, yet here we talking about lolcows, it wouldn't make sense to blame Null for it.

 

[Mepsi Pax]

I've never seen a single person that's super preoccupied by stuff like GMOs also being an athlete.
I have the privilege to work, almost daily, with very healthy people, many of them young, and many from disadvantaged communities. Some have lived for years on a diet of the cheapest bread and yogurt, with the rare weekly chicken backs soup and some meat paste spread.

Yes you already bragged about what an amazing trainer you are training amazing athletes wow its so amazing but nobody gives a shit, also (outside of the absolute highest levels which you do not belong to) personal trainer is a retard job for poor people and your local affletes aren't special for being able to run and jump at a collegiate level

No kidding you can technically live on bread and milkfat for macros, especially when it's real bread and minimally processed dairy, which it is because as I recall you live in a shithole country. Bragging about athletes not getting enough meat, a key source of protein, says more about your parochial mindset than it does about good practice.

The suggestion that someone take up a professional training regimen as a hobby in order to compensate for artificial food intake (fake food is a concept you don't really understand because you're unfamiliar with decadent western living) is absolutely retarded. Diet is THE primary factor for being healthy and in good shape, so internet bragging about malnourished athletes aside, the only way you can overcome a shitty diet (at least in part) is to train like you're trying to make the olympics. Running isn't even good for you. Nobody should run 50 miles per week in order to balance their caloric intake. A few pastries will offset an entire hour of running.

The entire argument is basically specious and I'm not sure it's even being made in good faith. No real coach training actual capable athletes (at least in the west) is going to tell them "fuck the diet just train 6 hours a day and eat whatever you want". You have to eat very well in order to compete at serious (aka not romanian village) levels, because your competition is doing the same. This will apply more to something like say, bodybuilding, than it does to long-distance running (neither of which is a real sport tbh), but everything is so specialized now that even regional competition requires you to utilize every tool you have to match the competition.

Of course the thread OP is kind of retarded too, conflating GMO with artificial ingredients and so on. The answer to the question is pretty obvious - because it maximizes profit - and while it's a terrible situation you can avoid it almost entirely by A) cooking your own food with basic ingredients and/or B) making enough money to buy expensive groceries.

On a personal level, some of my best gains have been from dietary changes. These were hard gains that were made at already high performance levels. I cut out the goyslop and spend way more on groceries. I don't drink corn syrup or eat fast food. This has been extremely effective and allowed me to cut back on exercise, instead of using all my personal time to work out and wearing my joints out in the process. Could I achieve similar results (ignoring long term health effects) on a diet of rye bread and plain yogurt? Probably, but I'm not a malnourished peasant

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

1 Gallon of 2% milk for $3.09, the only thing that seems bad is 12 grams of sugar but after googling it milk naturally has 12 grams of sugar in it, so nothing bad was added.

Ew. Whole milk or gtfo. Wait. 2% is whole milk. Nevermind. Forgot.

 

[Otterly]

many of them young

Youth and activity will see you through to forty or so. After that you will see a rapid breakdown of health.
What do your athletes look like at fifty?

 

[AgendaPoster]

Youth and activity will see you through to forty or so. After that you will see a rapid breakdown of health.
What do your athletes look like at fifty?

Some are fat with few reminders of their past performance, because they started to drink and became sedentary. You'd notice their muscular legs, which don't fit under such large bellies.
But some are physical education teachers and trainers, and I've ran marathons with them, and they are often much, much fitter and capable than a regular, already obese 18 yrs old, easily measurable with cardiac health metrics like HRV, blood tests, lactate threshold, resting heart rates and VO2max.
Of course you will age, but there is a choice. You work out, and you do not give up. You understand that death will still come for you, but you still do not give up.
Or you join the deathfat cult of out of shape horrors.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I agree that there is too much sugar and salt in foods. Processed/refined foods are really bad for you and increase inflammation in the body. But GMOs are theoretically fine. The biggest problems with them are not that they're poison (bc they aren't), but corps like Monsanto patenting their stuff to screw over farmers.