why are you still single - and general discussion of the dating game

When I think about dating for more than about a minute I get put off by it. In my experience it always feels like I have to entertain a woman and be someone that I'm not. I feel the same way even about having platonic friends for the most part. I'm not a particularly happy or enthusiastic person and I'm confident that dating again isn't going to magically change my predisposition.

A self selecting group, I'm aware, but I recently did the Tinder thing for a few months at the start of the year and this only reinforced my views regarding both the dating pool and my place in it. Summed up in a word: bleak.
 
oh yeah, men like that too seem few and far between. maybe it's different in other places but even men are now very easily offended or betas, or it could be they try to come off that way and intentionally be on their best behavior around women? unfortunately many men who are fit already have a gf as well
I find it mixed, growing up we would tone down some stuff around women but that was mainly jocks and rich guys, a lot of guys I've met in university and at work who are "normal" are easily offended betas.
 
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I find it mixed, growing up we would tone down some stuff around women but that was mainly jocks and rich guys, a lot of guys I've met in university and at work who are "normal" are easily offended betas.

I mean yeah that's an inevitable consequence of gynocentric culture + social justice + etc. Men are told by mainstream culture to not be men, basically. Unfortunately this doesn't change the base psychology of women which is still more attracted to masculine traits not to soy beta line toeing faggots.

Anyways. One of the more interesting trends in the "dating market" is the asymmetry in sexual activity between young men and young women. The recent decline in sexual activity is driven largely by young males many of whom have no dating prospects and have been sexless for their entire lives. Young women however do not show this similar trend of rising "inceldom." Meaning that women are still fucking, they are just hooking up with older men while ignoring men their own age, and more of the women are being "taken" by a smaller portion of the men. It's interesting because it's a rise in "dating inequality" that corresponds to the rise in economic inequality.
 
Had a girlfriend, broke up and ended it badly, decided to just focus on me for a while before jumping back into the dating scene. So far, I have a new job, make more money doing something I like, and am generally happy with myself, so I might get back into it.
 
I mean yeah that's an inevitable consequence of gynocentric culture + social justice + etc. Men are told by mainstream culture to not be men, basically. Unfortunately this doesn't change the base psychology of women which is still more attracted to masculine traits not to soy beta line toeing faggots.

Anyways. One of the more interesting trends in the "dating market" is the asymmetry in sexual activity between young men and young women. The recent decline in sexual activity is driven largely by young males many of whom have no dating prospects and have been sexless for their entire lives. Young women however do not show this similar trend of rising "inceldom." Meaning that women are still fucking, they are just hooking up with older men while ignoring men their own age, and more of the women are being "taken" by a smaller portion of the men. It's interesting because it's a rise in "dating inequality" that corresponds to the rise in economic inequality.
Yeah when you hear 'millenials and zoomers aren't dating' it's mostly young men not dating. If you look up the figures it's actually pretty alarming.
 
I stay at home, or I'm at the gym.
As a fit prettyboi, the people that tend to be into me are old creeps or just plain ugly and chubby people aka gay incels expecting someone fat hotter than them. Even though it's the old creeps that tend to rage at me for not wanting to touch them even with a pitchfork. Basically those that are undesired and desperate enough to take everything.

My hunting grounds are on grindr though.
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I'm working my way to be a fitboi, and it turns out my tastes are very particular which sadly not many guys that are interested in me fall under. I'm also concerned about the financial strain a relationship brings, what with inflation (especially gas) raging in my city. That and I'm starting to find it harder to talk to people, because it feels like every conversation we have is so fake.
 
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I mean yeah that's an inevitable consequence of gynocentric culture + social justice + etc. Men are told by mainstream culture to not be men, basically. Unfortunately this doesn't change the base psychology of women which is still more attracted to masculine traits not to soy beta line toeing faggots.
that’s the reason i love this forum so much. you can actually speak your mind, joke about whatever you want without having to worry about losing friends or your job or anything like that. i miss the times it was like that in real life.

my guess is that a lot of people are sick of the trannies, liberal shit, politics, thought policing etc but just don’t speak openly about it. it’s hard to meet people and share interests without the worry they will be malicious if they find you offensive or “bigoted”. everything is political now and it’s hard to have a chill conversation with a man when he will watch every word and apologize for saying something considered offensive.

i’ve seen on other forums men say they don’t approach women anymore because the fear of being called a creep or being “predatory”. i’ve also seen the screenshots from dating apps of liberal women being completely insufferable and berating men for not supporting blm or even just being apolitical. i’ve met other women who are chill and speak freely, but it seems that the modern day the average woman is a SJW who will even try to police how men act together in their own private groups. i don’t blame this for not being able to get a relationship, but it seems to have at least some impact on how men act when it comes to dating now, and how now more people than ever are single. it’s just too rigid and sometimes too risky to pursue someone and be vulnerable to them

i wish it was how it used to be where you could make a genuine connection with someone. maybe in some places that’s possible, but if you live where there’s majority liberals it’s just not worth the hardship. it used to be that you could have relationships with people who don’t align with you politically, because back then people didn’t give so many shits about who you voted for or your opinion on a fucking vaccine. people now will end a lifelong friendship with someone who holds the “wrong views”. everyone’s at eachothers throats now and hostile
 
I don't care anymore. I haven't cared in a long time. When I was younger, I used to feel the pressure to meet somebody, fall in love, get married, etc. Naturally, I failed to be anyone's Mr. Right and never cared too much about trying to impress or attract women anyway. Eventually, I accepted that I really wasn't happy with myself. Though I tried to insist otherwise, I really did care what other people thought of me. Nowadays I'm actually happy with myself. I don't feel like I need a Ms. Right to be happy or fulfilled. I don't see it as a cope either because I don't feel like I failed anything. Maybe other people would understandably think I'm a freak for not being in love, married, or whatever, but I don't care because I mind my own business, live my own life, and I'm not out to get anybody or causing any trouble. Most importantly, I've accepted myself for who I am.

On top of all that, I'm pushing 40 and don't want to waste the rest of my life trying to find this imaginary Ms. Right who I don't need anyway.
 
There's nothing more alien to me than romance. I've been in relationships before, but none have lasted longer than a few months because the mask of charm and sociability I put on eventually slips and they discover I'm really an emotionally stunted person who's incapable of being spontaneously "romantic", whatever that is.

Now, if I can say something positive about myself, it's that I'm pretty good about owning up to and learning from my mistakes...with the glaring exception of my relationships. The fact this has happened so many times and I still don't understand what I'm doing wrong or how to correct it, scares me out of pursuing relationships. This is not just because it's embarrassing for me, but also for whomever I date, since they seem to get the impression I don't care about them because I'm unable to imitate the courtship rituals of normal people.

I'm far from conventionally handsome, but I know that if I really wanted to and were willing to put the substantial effort necessary to do so, I could get dates and try again. But again, if I know how it will turn out, what's the point in doing so?

Thankfully, this issue doesn't bug me on a regular basis, only briefly when I see my friends get married off or when my parents lament about not having grandchildren. It kinda sucks, since I would like to be a dad, and I think I would be a good dad, but I'd also be an absolutely terrible husband.
 
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