Why assume we "go anywhere" when we die?

Death is a combines all of the things humans fear most:

Permanent, irreversible change that forces you to confront what you are unable to fully perceive or even comprehend.

The infinite and the unknown.
 
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Remember the 13.5 billion years before you were born? It's probably something like that.
For my finite self yes. For my finite self it is infinite non-experience, but that is not so important because the infinite aspect that I am a part of cannot die. Life ending is just like a TV show you enjoy ending or something... There are other TV shows.
 
I never understood why people need to have there be something after death. I find the thought that after I suicide bomb that orphanage I just stop existing and my physical self will just rot very comforting. I consider the eternal peace of nothingness our reward for having to live our lives with so many assholes while we exist as a discreet, conscious, self-aware organism.
 
Because the thought of eternal unconsciousness drives people insane.
I know it's the case. But I never understood why? I find the idea of eternal unconsciousness as comforting as divine reward for a life well lived.

It's not like I yearn for it, the unpredictability of life is exhilerating. But fearing it? Never understood it. I guess everyone has their own fears and they're not particularly rational.
 
I know it's the case. But I never understood why? I find the idea of eternal unconsciousness as comforting as divine reward for a life well lived.

It's not like I yearn for it, the unpredictability of life is exhilerating. But fearing it? Never understood it. I guess everyone has their own fears and they're not particularly rational.
Infinity is frightening for a human. But I don't believe there is such a thing as unconsciousness, only a cessation of experience from the point of view of a finite self...

I could ask you to imagine yourself in nothing. You probably picture a black void, no thoughts, no emotions, just the awareness of a black void. And then I say, take away the black and the void. What is left? If you say anything else remains that you are conscious of, take that away.

See the experience of that would be exactly like general anaesthetic, and could be achieved without touching the magical conscious-generating part of the brain theorized to exist.

For when there is no observed, there is no observer...

So then. When your body dies or w.e. of course that body no longer experiences anything. Has consciousness itself ended though? Because if it has, ask yourself what it is that is attending your funeral.

See the problem is: I do not believe brains generate consciousness itself. I think brains are something consciousness manifests as. I am you and you are me. I am not brain-you and brain-you is not brain-me. But God-you and God-me (what we mean when we say "I am conscious"; the pure thing itself) are not two different things. It is just God. Everything is God.
 
I feel like this type of question inevitably spirals back to "why is there something instead of nothing", there is not proof that all of reality is a single unity. We could be experiencing multiple realities at once, the human brain and its senses have been proven time and time again unable to accurately depict the world around us. Personally I believe there is something after death, you can call it a cope if you like but I believe in the soul and its immortality. I don't think unending unconsciousness is all that terrifying a prospect, it's merely a dreamless sleep something people experience all the time. I'm unsure what happens after death as all people are, perhaps we reincarnate, maybe there is a judge who decides if you go to heaven or hell, maybe we're transported to a different reality entirely, maybe none of these are true. Ultimately you shouldn't be wasting your time with questions like these you'll drive yourself mad, just lead a good life whatever that means to you and accept death with grace. Don't go out whimpering and pleading for another day, accept that everything comes to an end.
 
"all of reality is fundamentally one thing"

"only one thing exists"

These are primitive ontological assumptions created by streetshitters who were high on cow dung while they were coming up with this crap. In the modern era, only degenerate loser junkies like john lennon or joe rogan entertain concepts like that. Sophisticated and Aryan worldviews such as Christianity (or even their simplified versions, like Islam) do not share this primitive low IQ assumptions of "oneness of existence". Even if you insist on being a pretentious peepeepoopoo "philosopher" instead of reading the Bible like a normal person, a nigga named Nietzsche has thoroughly buck breaked this type of pseudo-deep streetshitter monism like 150 years ago
One of the only posts worth a damn in this entire thread, and people are mad at it. Seems about right.

"Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?"
 
Because it is easier on a human to believe that all their work, all their relationships, all their wealth, and all their spirtuality amounts to something when in reality, it doesn't.
 
Consciousness is fucking weird. Although it may depend on physical material and interactions (at least for life as we know it,), it doesn't seem to be reducible to physics in any coherent way. So I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to think that there's more to us than our bodies, and some non-physical part of us might continue to exist after the physical part dies.

It's probably worth mentioning that many religions (especially the most ancient ones) DON'T have any concept of an afterlife, or at least not a very happy one. That seems to be a relatively recent fixation. Not a recent invention necessarily, but even most older religions that believed in an afterlife didn't obsess about it the way we do.

But even if you believe in life after death, I think it's rather naive to believe that humans are INHERENTLY immortal. Humans, as far as we can tell, are finite. It would take an act of God for it to be otherwise. Will that happen? Well... depends what you believe about God.
 
I feel like this type of question inevitably spirals back to "why is there something instead of nothing", there is not proof that all of reality is a single unity. We could be experiencing multiple realities at once, the human brain and its senses have been proven time and time again unable to accurately depict the world around us. Personally I believe there is something after death, you can call it a cope if you like but I believe in the soul and its immortality. I don't think unending unconsciousness is all that terrifying a prospect, it's merely a dreamless sleep something people experience all the time. I'm unsure what happens after death as all people are, perhaps we reincarnate, maybe there is a judge who decides if you go to heaven or hell, maybe we're transported to a different reality entirely, maybe none of these are true. Ultimately you shouldn't be wasting your time with questions like these you'll drive yourself mad, just lead a good life whatever that means to you and accept death with grace. Don't go out whimpering and pleading for another day, accept that everything comes to an end.
"Why is there anything rather than nothing" is basically the entire foundation of Taoism since it turns that on its head and explains everything is fundamentally nothing. Nothing+something being two sides, but one coin.

In my personal experience the truth is found before rational thought takes place. It is in pure being. Pure being itself can't be wrong, which is why if I said "you don't exist" you'd instantaneously be able to ascertain that is moronic. How? You could have done this without some oldass ancient figure inventing "cogito ergo sum". So why and how is that?

Because that pure being precedes all belief, thought, concept, and ideas. "Stupidity" is something done by thoughts. "Belief" is something done by thoughts. Pure being precedes thought and itself cannot inherently be a belief as a result. Only what is applied TO it by thought can be belief (or "faith").

If you answer all questions precisely as you can verify as fact by direct experience, in the same way as you can verify you exist, you will find what is real.

Initially things appear to be solipsism. It isn't. Space and matter are not things you know by direct experience. Example: If you had no senses whatsoever would you know of a space or matter? No touch to even feel your own body. Your direct experience is not that you move through space or that you see matter, but that the EXPERIENCE of sight and EXPERIENCE of the sensation of movement is taking place. That is your direct experience. "Other people" as such only seem separated by space which you have never verified is there independently of mind, only perceived in awareness. No space = no here or there = no separation.

In your direct verifiable experience you have never experienced any time when you have not existed, you have never existed in any moment but the present (memories of the past are recalled and experienced in the present moment where you always are), you have never known more than one mind.

Consider that these seem close to ideas found in nonduality. The facts of pure being align. It claims:

1) Your true self (the pure "beingness") has never not existed because it is all things. Your own self (thoughts, emotions, identity) is an appearance which happens IN the pure being that is awareness... That pure beingness, it was never born and never dies(/died).

2) There is only one mind with no spatial dimension that encompasses all reality including all people such as you and others (not solipsism from the relative level, think of it as "God's mind" with our selves being limited parts OF that).

3) The only true time is the now. The passage of time happens inside awareness.

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So you see the similarity. It requires both deconstruction of thought and assumed belief to get as close to a state of pure being-ness as possible.
 
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